From what I understand it is quite a change technically for the networks. They also need to decide the kind of distribution of the eSims. That would be the job of the MVNO and not the host network.
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From what I understand it is quite a change technically for the networks. They also need to decide the kind of distribution of the eSims. That would be the job of the MVNO and not the host network.
I’ve been out of telecoms for 10 years, but I did work on a lot of the core infrastructure.
From a network point of view, you’re interested in things like the IMSI and encryption keys and you probably don’t care too much whether it’s stored on a SIM or in the secure area if the device. Managing that and getting that data into the device securely is a matter of your mediation services that sit between your customer management platforms and the network and that’s just IT.
You might want to allocate different IMSI ranges to each MVNO to make moving them easier if they decide to switch from (say) EE to O2 as Virgin did. But otherwise on the network side, I think it’s just going to be different APNs, probably a more limited set of bearer services if you’re not allowing 5G access and really not that hard to manage because it’s just different data in a very big and fast database.
I think it all depends on how much of the customer integration side the MVNOs do and how much they pass off onto the network operators to manage for them. If they’re running a very light weight customer service solution, the MVNOs may not have the ability to integrate to the standard required by the network operators.
99.5% not lol. I must admit, I prefer a real Sim for that reason. Also easy t stick it in another phone if your other one dies.
Not biting with the esims just yet u less forced too. Pop old sim into new phone and not worry about for a year - works fine for me.
I can’t see UK or the EU moving to to esim only iPhones unless Apple has done the prep work with the networks (physical and virtual) already and they’re all prepped to offer esim.. just seen zero evidence that’s the case.
Anyone know if the US switch to esim last year excluded any networks out there from offering their service on iPhones?
I’m sure there’ll also be some obscure EU directive restricting this
I can’t see UK or the EU moving to to esim only iPhones unless Apple has done the prep work with the networks (physical and virtual) already and they’re all prepped to offer esim.. just seen zero evidence that’s the case.
Anyone know if the US switch to esim last year excluded any networks out there from offering their service on iPhones?
I’m sure there’ll also be some obscure EU directive restricting this
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How do I get this ? £20 a month is grating me
I’ve preordered via Curry’s the last 2 years and both years got my phone delivered by dpd on launch day.
I’m doing the same this year (if I upgrade)
Only thing that will stop me upgrading this year is if the 15 is esim only as I’m now on Voxi.
so whats the best way to renew the MM price? does it give you option to save it again with 1 day left?
I think if you search this thread for John Lewis, Currys, Very and Carphone Warehouse, you’ll learn all you need to.
I’d say that’s the exception, rather then the rule.
Every year, we advise people not to do it and every year people get let down.
Yes. Add to basket and then save for later.
Or make a new order if price the same or higher and save it.
I personally start new order if price the same.
Check out
Pre-Ordering – The iPhone Purchase Experience
www.iphonepurchaseexperience.uk
Has details of the different retailers. John Lewis you can only order on launch day and if your local store is lucky to have them in stock you can collect.
So within a month we will know more about the iPhone 15 and we would have flocked to a new thread!!!
Hopefully this time next month we will be doing pre-pre orders.
Hopefully this time next month we will be doing pre-pre orders.
Think we’ve been able to do pre pre orders late on in the evening of keynote
It was late in the day after the keynote. Can’t tell if the time stamp is BST or where I currently am which is 3 hours ahead
I guess I could have been awake catching up on all the posts on the thread!
It was late in the day after the keynote. Can’t tell if the time stamp is BST or where I currently am which is 3 hours ahead
I guess I could have been awake catching up on all the posts on the thread!
The event was on the 7th so this was next day - 8th. Or maybe delayed email as just saw it say 1am.
I thought it was next day.
Have been reading more around the interwebby and there are lots of rumours of France and modes that are despatched in France which are most of Europe and UK would be eSim only for iPhone 15.
Reading some Reddit threads Apple didn’t care whether the MVNOs supported it or not. That was down to the MNOs allowing the MVNOs to use the technology. If it is because the MNOs won’t allow it in the UK I am sure that the CMA will get involved.
LycaMobile are MVNO using EE with full eSim support however they don’t have Wi-Fi calling or visual voicemail. I expect they are limited by either EE or just to keep prices low.
This news could be bad unless Vodafone roll out eSIM to Voxi quick sharp. Looks like 3 has no intention to roll it out to Smarty.
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/03/27/iphone-15-esim-only-france-rumor/
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From the guy who has been leaking lots of details on the iPhone 15 and new SE. Whether we get the EU model or not, who knows!
I’m with VOXI and really happy with my deal and use visual voicemail and WiFi calling. I also like the option of taking out a physical sim to use in another phone.
Same here I'm on Voxi, everything unlimited for £10 a month, I'd be happy to move to eSIM for it if Voxi supported it.
Looking on Three, I’d not get a better deal than I’m currently on and it looks like they only offer eSIM on a limited range of tariffs.
I think ill be going for a white iphone this year if titanium rumours are correct.