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Just to keep you all up to date; we ordered 2 iPhone 5S' (Silver 16GB and 32GB) on Friday 20th (launch day), UK Mail have just sent out a text message telling us of a delivery tomorrow morning of the 16GB handset, so we're half way there, just waiting on the other model (32GB) to be sent out.

As in the Applestore online?
 
The 9m figure EXCLUDES orders placed on the website but not yet shipped. The way Apple counts a sale is actual phone leaving a store/being delivered.

Where have you got this information from? Could you post any links or articles stating this as would be interested to see.

Thanks.
 
You have no idea how business works.

The level of crying and feet stamping in this thread and on this forum is embarrassing. Apple set my delivery expectations within minutes of me ordering after midnight last Friday. They told me it will be with me on the 7th-11th October, that's fine by me. What would be unacceptable was if they didn't give me a date or promised a date that they couldn't meet.

I partially agree with that argument, however the point is that the only way to get a phone in a similar timescale to that in all previous years is to go to a store every morning and take your chance with scalpers, or pay more to CPW than Apple are charging.

Yes, Apple told us what the delivery timescale was when we ordered however for many of us working full time, there is no alternativeto ordering from Apple. I am in a 12 month sim-only contract and so an unlocked phone is the only option; I know because I have tried to upgrade that too.
 
That was announced at 00:01 to a fan-base that had stayed up to order them. Sure you don't have to buy, you could have tried a store instead. It's a matter of perception, but in my opinion having absolutely 0% of UK direct online orders going out, not even an initial trickle compared to stores re-stocking and carphone warehouse charing premiums for sim-free phones makes for a pretty bad taste in a consumers mouth.

I totally agree.
 
I'll wait as long as it takes to get mine, since even with the longer delivery I'll still get my Gold iPhone before retail is due to have stock.

But if I have to see "processing" for much longer I'm gonna start thinking Apple are just having me on!
 
Came back from bromley, queued up 10 minutes just before store opening.

First time I've been able to see iphones actually for sell

The queue was filled with our middle eastern friends buying up two iphones at a time..

Then told they sold out.

I wanted to cry, lol.
 
I just spoke to an online Apple representative and I quote "I assure you some UK orders have already been shipped".

Don't believe that for a second!
 
Just caved in and ordered from CPW, despite swearing I never would again after the complete mess they made of the 3G launch. But seeing everyone else get theirs when my 00:01 Online Apple Store order still sits there was just too much of a slap in the face from Apple.

With CPW's history I'm not going to cancel my Apple order till I get it in my hands though.

But.... when I was ordering from CPW online (64GB Grey, unlocked), everything suggested I would have an option to select Saturday delivery, but my order completed without any chance to select this. Anyone know if this should have been available and I just missed it?
 
EE's website claim all colours and models are in stock.

Not sure how accurate that is? O2 are still 3-6 weeks or out of stock for all the non grey ones.
 
Just caved in and ordered from CPW, despite swearing I never would again after the complete mess they made of the 3G launch. But seeing everyone else get theirs when my 00:01 Online Apple Store order still sits there was just too much of a slap in the face from Apple.

With CPW's history I'm not going to cancel my Apple order till I get it in my hands though.

But.... when I was ordering from CPW online (64GB Grey, unlocked), everything suggested I would have an option to select Saturday delivery, but my order completed without any chance to select this. Anyone know if this should have been available and I just missed it?

Would be interested to know the answer to this. Am tempted to cancel my Apple order and order one through CPW, but it's only possible for me if it can be delivered over the weekend.
 
Do you have a link for that? Because I read somewhere an analyst claiming that the real figure was 5.5 million shipped and 3.5 million backordered.

That analyst got it so wrong that he is covering his ass.

From Apple’s 10K:
Net sales consist primarily of revenue from the sale of hardware, software, digital content and applications, peripherals, and service and support contracts. The Company recognizes revenue when persuasive evidence of an arrangement exists, delivery has occurred, the sales price is fixed or determinable, and collection is probable. Product is considered delivered to the customer once it has been shipped and title and risk of loss have been transferred. For most of the Company’s product sales, these criteria are met at the time the product is shipped. For online sales to individuals, for some sales to education customers in the U.S., and for certain other sales, the Company defers revenue until the customer receives the product because the Company retains a portion of the risk of loss on these sales during transit.

From Apples own 10k it counts a sale as one that has been delivered so the 9m does not count the online sales not yet delivered as they have not taken any money from you yet. If they counted sales as people buying online then if i went and ordered 10m handsets but cancelled then Apple would have to explain why the figures went down the next quarter. Only when money has exchanged hands does it count as a sale.
 
Does anyone know if an iphone 5S purchased as an upgrade from o2

Is the phone just locked to o2 or does it have all the usual bubble start up screen etc?
 
Where have you got this information from? Could you post any links or articles stating this as would be interested to see.

Thanks.

From Apple’s 10K:
Net sales consist primarily of revenue from the sale of hardware, software, digital content and applications, peripherals, and service and support contracts. The Company recognizes revenue when persuasive evidence of an arrangement exists, delivery has occurred, the sales price is fixed or determinable, and collection is probable. Product is considered delivered to the customer once it has been shipped and title and risk of loss have been transferred. For most of the Company’s product sales, these criteria are met at the time the product is shipped. For online sales to individuals, for some sales to education customers in the U.S., and for certain other sales, the Company defers revenue until the customer receives the product because the Company retains a portion of the risk of loss on these sales during transit.

From Apples own 10k it counts a sale as one that has been delivered so the 9m does not count the online sales not yet delivered as they have not taken any money from you yet. If they counted sales as people buying online then if i went and ordered 10m handsets but cancelled then Apple would have to explain why the figures went down the next quarter. Only when money has exchanged hands does it count as a sale.
 
That analyst got it so wrong that he is covering his ass.

From Apple’s 10K:
Net sales consist primarily of revenue from the sale of hardware, software, digital content and applications, peripherals, and service and support contracts. The Company recognizes revenue when persuasive evidence of an arrangement exists, delivery has occurred, the sales price is fixed or determinable, and collection is probable. Product is considered delivered to the customer once it has been shipped and title and risk of loss have been transferred. For most of the Company’s product sales, these criteria are met at the time the product is shipped. For online sales to individuals, for some sales to education customers in the U.S., and for certain other sales, the Company defers revenue until the customer receives the product because the Company retains a portion of the risk of loss on these sales during transit.

From Apples own 10k it counts a sale as one that has been delivered so the 9m does not count the online sales not yet delivered as they have not taken any money from you yet. If they counted sales as people buying online then if i went and ordered 10m handsets but cancelled then Apple would have to explain why the figures went down the next quarter. Only when money has exchanged hands does it count as a sale.
Thanks.
 
Just caved in and ordered from CPW, despite swearing I never would again after the complete mess they made of the 3G launch. But seeing everyone else get theirs when my 00:01 Online Apple Store order still sits there was just too much of a slap in the face from Apple.

With CPW's history I'm not going to cancel my Apple order till I get it in my hands though.

But.... when I was ordering from CPW online (64GB Grey, unlocked), everything suggested I would have an option to select Saturday delivery, but my order completed without any chance to select this. Anyone know if this should have been available and I just missed it?

From the CPW website:

"Free next day delivery (Order before 5pm)
Saturday delivery is £7.50
You’ll receive a 1hr time slot on the morning of your delivery. If it doesn’t suit you, just text or email to reschedule"

So not sure, maybe it will come anyway, but to be sure you should phone them and ask.
 
Do you have a link for that? Because I read somewhere an analyst claiming that the real figure was 5.5 million shipped and 3.5 million backordered.

Where have you got this information from? Could you post any links or articles stating this as would be interested to see.

Thanks.

This gets asked regularly. ISI Group's Brian Marshall commented on CNN Money last year regarding the iPhone 5 launch figures.

Clarification - recall the 5mil+ iPhone 5 reported sales only takes into consideration:

1) what was sold into partners (e.g., retail outlets, carriers, etc.),

2) sold in AAPL retail stores, and

3) direct to customers only if they signed for the device.

Importantly, this doesn't take into consideration units in delivery direct to customers (i.e., AAPL must have signature of acceptance by customer before it is counted as a sale) and we estimate units in transit could be in the millions currently.

These have always been Apple's standard criteria when reporting sales. It's extremely likely that they're still valid.
 
Does it matter if there Asian, Black, Chinese or anything else? A scalper is a scalper and obviously its very annoying and frustrating

Perhaps not important, but an interesting social commentary. The queues outside Apple Stratford last Friday looked like downtown Bangalore, despite an abundance of Caucasian faces in Westfield generally. The smaller queue yesterday had a similar demographic. But this time, of course, you are welcomed with cheerful stories of "I'm returning 2 phones, mate. What you after?"

Sleazeballs.
 
Knew I should have driven up to bluewater this morning! No point now, they'll be sold out before I get there!

I understand that they gave me a delivery date when I ordered, and I could have spent the night sat outside the bluewater store to try my luck getting one on launch day... But I'm too lazy for that! And I'm also impatient. My husband would say it's my worst trait - I like shiny things and I don't like to wait for them! Lol.

I get that they would have to fulfil orders that the networks and retail stores placed pre-launch, and I haven't been too tempted to buy from CPW because I prefer to buy from apple direct, but it does make me a little bit sad that they clearly have stock in the country because they're delivering them to their own stores, but they have online orders that they're not fulfilling. We ordered before the people going to stores today and yet won't get our phones for another week or so.

I'm mostly annoyed at myself for not driving to bluewater this morning! For interests sake, does anyone know what their stock of 64gb silver was like? Just to either make me feel better or rub salt in the wound? Lol
 
Job done. Three have now unlocked my CPW 5S as of this morning.

Overall, paid the same price as retail and now the phone has been unlocked by Apple servers. Granted it cost £15 but still...Happy Days :D

Meanwhile Apple order was still 14 days out. :rolleyes:

Good luck to everyone else.
 
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