You'd understand correctly. Jellybean, as of right now, shows no sign of being beat anytime soon in the OS war. It's fantastic.
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UK Judge Rules Apple Must Publish Notices Acknowledging Samsung Did Not Copy iPad
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You'd understand correctly. Jellybean, as of right now, shows no sign of being beat anytime soon in the OS war. It's fantastic.
What flagrant copies though ? I don't think such a beast exists. Unless you're talking about KIRF, of which I see none on that slide. All those companies make their own products from their own designs, same as Apple.
Everyone in this thread keeps saying 'They copied Apple!' and yet I've not seen ONE single detail explaining the reasoning behind their falsified theory. Instead of saying 'just look at it,' I want to see evidence that Samsung copied. It's not going to happen. You know why? Because there is none.
Considering we're in a thread about a consequence to a ruling of non-infringement on Samsung's part, it's going to be a hard argument to make here.
This is the same judge that said the iPad was cooler than the Galaxy Tab.
What makes you think he's anti-apple ? Can't he be... objective ?
Err cos it's a stupid ruling...I mean really stupid. Thats not being objective at all. Besides who wants a judge that rules things by how cool they look, I certainly don't buy an iPad or a computer by how cool it looks. Maybe he is anti-apple saying something is cooler he could be implying it's all about looks and not function!
The description of the differences isn't so much about performance as usability, smoothness, responsiveness. He sums those up as "cool", which probably did nobody any good.
Good thing that's not what he based his ruling on then right ? You did read the ruling ?
You haven't read the ruling, do you?
That headline is good but it is not what the ruling said
Did you read my post? at all? sarcasm mate...blimey , of course it's a copy and of course maybe Apple went over the top with their reaction in the media, but at the end of the day if someone stole your idea's wouldn't you react?
Of course what is a copy ? I think the judge said it wasn't. And I don't believe it is either. And I don't even know what was "stolen" from Apple. Last I checked, they still have their ideas. What ideas are you referring to anyhow ?
The idea with 50 examples of prior art ? Hardly an "Apple idea" if there's 50 other examples that existed prior to it now is it ?
I think you really should stick your head out of the sand here. Use specifics on what you mean, and let's discuss those. Vague references don't help show your objectivity in all of this.
Of course what is a copy ? I think the judge said it wasn't. And I don't believe it is either. And I don't even know what was "stolen" from Apple. Last I checked, they still have their ideas. What ideas are you referring to anyhow ?
The idea with 50 examples of prior art ? Hardly an "Apple idea" if there's 50 other examples that existed prior to it now is it ?
I think you really should stick your head out of the sand here. Use specifics on what you mean, and let's discuss those. Vague references don't help show your objectivity in all of this.
So you don't think Android system is a copy of IOS? I'm not just talking about a framed screen here, the list of the similarities is very well documented on many sites and threads. I think you meant pull your head out of the sand , where obviously yours is stuck! If you think it's fine for people to steal and clone other people idea's then fine, I think it's wrong and unethical. They way Apple & Samsung go about defending or promoting it is another matter, here I think the judges ruling was silly.
If it is so well documented you won't have any problem on linking to one of those sites or threads or write a list of those similarities.
No, I don't. Why would I think that ? The systems are so different, to think one is a copy of the other shows great ignorance of both systems. You've used iOS before right ? You know what it's like right ?
Wait, because they share some concepts and similarities, it's automatic Android took them from iOS... it can't possibly be that those similarities are actually shared with a bunch of other OSes that came prior to either iOS or Android ?
Have a read, I have posted quite a few lengthy posts on why exactly I don't think Android and iOS copied from each other, and that is down to one plain and simple fact : Both have different design philosophies revolving around different goals :
But that's your opinion on how to design systems. Other vendors and makers have other visions, ones which are more hardware agnostic in nature. Something for everyone.
How so ? Samsung's original Galaxy S UI is pretty much what it still is today, and uses Android's paradigm of a customizable widget interface :
Of course, Apple tends to only show pictures with the device showing it's Application drawer open, to sort of "mimic" iOS. I think in this instance, Apple is trying hard to tell us Samsung copied the UI, when in fact, it's all smoke and mirrors.
Android's UI and iOS' UI paradigms and design goals are different. Android is for customizability which offers a user a chance to make the device truely is while iOS is for rigidity, which makes a user able to pick up any iOS device and be productive with it instantly.
Both approaches have pros and cons and both have merit. Both might not appeal to the same crowd.
No different than Apple that drew inspiration off Android, RIM and Windows Mobile. No different than Palm drew inspiration off other players, same for everyone in this industry. That's how innovation and moving forward works. People get inspired by others, and perfect ideas, invent new ones, re-invent old ones or simply ignore bad ones.
What's different about Windows Phone 7 really ? Live tiles ? They're just icons. Everyone does tons of things different from each other, however except for Windows Phone, most other platforms are "mature" (have been with us for more than 2-3 years, so we're used to seeing them). No one is reinventing their UI and design drastically, because that could alienate users (no matter how much people here clamor for the big iOS UI redesign).
The front-end UIs are also different. They have different goals and design philosophies. To claim iOS' rigidity and familiarity is what Android is after is ludicrous. To claim Android's customizability and flexibility is what iOS is after is also quite ridiculous.
I have covered this already in many posts.
So the back-ends are designed differently, the front-ends are designed differently. Goals seem to be polar opposites in many cases between the platforms. What exactly is it you people want to claim Android copied from iOS ? Icons ? Is it really icons ?
Don't forget to talk about how Microsoft (larges software company out there) blatantly copied (more like stole) CPM and turned it into MS-Dos. Without that action, they would not exist today as they are. The courts allowed "reverse engineering" to allow everything from clones to flagrant look-alike copies of all kinds of things. As long a they didn't outright steal the code from Apple, it doesn't count (at least not until the age of "software patents" which seem to be more about preventing copying 'looks' than actual CODE, which is ALL that used to matter. If judges start destroying software patents, that's GREAT in my book because God never said you could "own" ideas. Otherwise we'd never have different cars, houses, toothbrushes, etc. because they're ALL copies of the same type of device.
And I have more news for some people. The idea of a pad computer existed LONG BEFORE Apple released its iPad. They made reversible screen notebooks that even turned into pads a LONG time ago. Just because Apple popularized them, that does NOT mean they invented them! By that line of thinking, it is Apple that could be sued to high hell since they didn't invent the pad computer at all. They also didn't invent the cell phone (i.e. NO iPHONE *PERIOD* by that line of thinking), etc. etc.
Seeing as he is a higher ranking UK judge.
Not online
I'm sure he knows more about UK law than everyone on this board put together 
But this wasnt in Spain so your laws and practices are moot
A one time ad in the major papers is one thing but six months on your own website is excessive.
And it is not US so you laws and practices are moot also.
How do you know that it is excessive, are you expert in UK IP laws?
The point in the argument is that Apple didn't see the Prada and then copy it, nor the Prada to the iPhone. Both companies have documentation of parallel development of similar ideas.
Whereas all the documents for all the Android phones show something like a blackberry until the first iPhone was announced and then the change.
Samsung et al totally copied the iPhone and iPad, this is a fact. Howeve due to legal logistics etc they are getting away with it in a legal sense. It's like the guy that murdered his best friend but doesn't get convicted cause he didn't leave behind physical proof for the whole 'beyond a reasonable doubt' requirement
Links to those documents or again and again, it hasn't happened. How many times do we need to debunk this crap ?
False, I bet you to show that documentation.
No, this is not a fact. The fact is that judges have stated that Samsung hasn't copied the iPad.
Liar. You say you don't waste time with biased peeps etc and yet you do. Because you waste time telling them (sometimes repeatedly) that you don't waste time with them and insulting them by calling them trolls etc