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Unboxing of the Early 2009 NVIDIA iMac, Early Benchmarks
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Yeah, if I buy an iMac, I will definitely go for HD4850. But I'd rather have an Nvidia card (I'm interested in CUDA). But I want my gaming performance! And HD4850 kicks ass when compared to GT130...
Where's GT280? ...
I'm pretty sure the GT130 is the 9600GSO/8800GS. (http://www.techpowerup.com/80712/NVIDIA_Value_and_Mainstream_GPUs_Rebranded_Too.html) I believe the 9600GT maybe the GT140, although with nVidia you never know.
I agree that the GPUs in the iMacs are most likely mobile parts relabeled to desktop equivalents. The HD2600Pro in the previous iMac was actually the Mobility HD2600XT clocked appropriately, while the 8800GS was the 8800M GTS. It makes sense the the GT130 is the 8800GS, since it allows Apple to use the same 8800M GTS as before. The GT120 is most likely the 9600M GT from the MacBook Pro allowing better bulk purchasing. The HD4850 is probably based on the Mobility HD4870. It's probably best that Apple uses mobile parts anyways, particularly for the HD4850 since the RV770 core isn't exactly a cool customer.
Which Apple doesn't seem to want to adopt, either.
I'd never buy a desktop keyboard if it didn't have a number pad. As it is, I don't even consider a 17" MBP just because every other one on the market HAS a number pad, except for Apple's, and I like my num-pad that much...
Keyboard
In the context of less computer value, which a lot of people post as their feeling about the iMac updates, I'm not happy with the keyboard. Regardless of people's use, it seems like a cheap move.
I don't know other peoples habits, but I use the keypad often.
In the context of less computer value, which a lot of people post as their feeling about the iMac updates, I'm not happy with the keyboard. Regardless of people's use, it seems like a cheap move.
I don't know other peoples habits, but I use the keypad often.
instead of the number pad they should have added a multi-touch track pad and got rid of the mouse.
that would have seriously pushed multi-touch as the "new thing" and get software developers to really start utilizing this stuff.
that would have seriously pushed multi-touch as the "new thing" and get software developers to really start utilizing this stuff.
For me its an issue of convenience that i have gotten used to. Half my drives are FW 400 and half are 800, but I don't like to have to daisy chain them all. I actually don't even need an adapter because my FW800 drives also have 400 ports.
Using Nvidia chipset allows for the removal of the Southbrigde (as it is included in the NB).
Seriously. For a laptop removing the number pad makes sense, but on your flagship desktop model this is a really bad move Apple. There are many professional uses of the Mac that you need the expedience of using a number pad for (talk to any bookkeeper for example).
No thanks
See no reason to replace my old iMac G5 until they come out with LED backlighting rather than CCFL. Agree, this looks like an interim model. Might just get a 17" MacBook Pro and use it in conjunction with the 24" LED display. Anyone using that set-up, and if so, how do you like it?
See no reason to replace my old iMac G5 until they come out with LED backlighting rather than CCFL. Agree, this looks like an interim model. Might just get a 17" MacBook Pro and use it in conjunction with the 24" LED display. Anyone using that set-up, and if so, how do you like it?
Seriously. For a laptop removing the number pad makes sense, but on your flagship desktop model this is a really bad move Apple. There are many professional uses of the Mac that you need the expedience of using a number pad for (talk to any bookkeeper for example).
I have to echo those sentiments.
So basically, it took Apple all year to remove a processor from the lineup, replace a FW 400 port with a USB port, change the RAM type, and give it integrated graphics on the first two models *blank stare*.
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I don't like that it comes with a keyboard without a key pad. I guess that you could always purchase one with a key pad later though.
I don't like that it comes with a keyboard without a key pad. I guess that you could always purchase one with a key pad later though.
Excuse my ignorance, but what difference does DD3 memory mean in comparison with DDR2, and for the 20" entry model, would "Average Joe" need more than 4 GB anyway?
I'm trying to find out if my wife will benefit from the new (and more expensive, at least here) 20" 2.66 iMac released yesterday and the previous 2.4 GHz model. She's an "average" user who uses a computer for basic stuff like email, web browsing etc. but she wants to "invest" in a computer that'll last her many years to come.
The real updates...
So when does Intel ship their laptop-class Quad Core processor?
Anybody got a link to a Intel roadmap handy?
Maybe this "update" will be relatively short lived.
So when does Intel ship their laptop-class Quad Core processor?
Anybody got a link to a Intel roadmap handy?
Maybe this "update" will be relatively short lived.
It seems that you can order the keyboard w/keypad without paying extra via Apple's online store. But that's a bummer for people buying directly from a physical store.
There are two types of graphics:
- integrated (chipset directly on the motherbord)
- separate graphics card
Integrated means less powerful and especially in the case of the old mini, a chip from Intel (GMA 950) was used with abysmal performance. Nvidia and AMD/ATI, the two chip manufacturers for graphics cards, started to produce their own budget chips. As of this revision, the mini now sports an Nvidia integrated chip with much better performance (Nvidia GeForce 9400M, same as current MacBook).
Your iMac has an Nvidia graphics card that is again much faster (>2x).
Checking the online store it looks like the fullsize keyboard is no extra cost, they are listed as:
Apple Keyboard
Apple Wireless Keyboard (Add $30)
Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad.
The only concern I would have is the physical stores and what sort of demand they will see for mini keyboard vs full keyboard and whether the confusion will lead people to return for a full keyboard and such. Having not seen the packaging hopefully it is kind of obvious through them using different images.
Will be interesting to see how the consumer handles it, removal of floppy drives really wasn't earth shattering as in many ways their purpose was overated and other options were available.
Very disappointed by lack of numeric keypad.
This is so bad, the entire new product line.. so sad
Oh my god....this and the fw400 rant will go on for years.....power of ignorance....
Except that prices went waaaaay up in most countries except the US! Have you seen what they did to us in Australia? Prices are up $500 or so!!!
Must be. I learnt to hate compact keyboards on my Amiga 600 way back in the day.
Yes, cause it would force me to progress from my Sony HDV Handycam to a newer model. Perhaps Apple are getting a cut from Sony.
lol, well said. Magnificent work from Apple -not.
What hurts the most is that, for the first time in a long time, these updates smell of cost accounting - that kind of nickel-and-dimeing that really gets your goat. I don't mind paying the Apple premium, but when they then turn around and start saving ten bucks by shipping a compact keyboard, or by not including an Apple Remote, it just gets insulting.