Under-Display Face ID Reportedly to Debut on 'iPhone 17 Pro'

Ion-X said:
It takes up almost no vertical space though. It uses horizontal space that was taken up by the status bar, and uses the dead area where the notch is as a touch surface. It's the most efficient possible use of space without the Dynamic Island being cramped and un-Apple like.
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boak said:
I can't be the only one who thinks Dynamic Island is taking up too much vertical space. It sticks out like a sore thumb on the screen.
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For me, It is the worst possible place to put it!. It is the laziest place and the most distracting and intrusive place to put such a large block of broken space in the screen.
“If Apple makes it, it must be the stroke of a genius”?. Nope.
In this case is a terrible design choice worth of a low tier device.
You watch a video in a 14pro and in a 13pro and the island becomes too obtrusive vs the PREVIOUS generation. Not a worth compromise, at all!. Gladly will give it back for the notch. Put the dynamic island in the notch area and then we can talk about improvements. But it sits too low and it affects games scores, status in games, banks titles, etc. it is nice to have, but terrible location in the display.
 
MacLoveMacHate said:
Under display Touch ID debuting on iPhone 27 Pro
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There will be no Touch ID below the screen. Presenting Face ID, Apple emphasized the security of the new authorization on the old type. Going back to the old form of logging in is admitting that Face ID is not as good as they promised. It's not a technical issue, or a question of speed or ability, because it can be done. It's a matter of credibility and image. Touch ID is found in devices from lower categories, such as iPhone SE, iPad, iPad Air, iPad Mini. Face ID in flagship, top models - iPhone, iPhone Pro, iPad Pro.
 
I heard from a reliable source the iPhone 24 Pro will have blood deposit ID with a new button on the side to prick your finger. I guess that'll help with America's growing diabetes?
 
The Incendiary said:
Are we really at the point where we’re debating (hardware) features on a phone that’s FOUR years away? So many things could change in the industry and with consumer wants, etc. between now and then. To me it’s just more pertinent to look at things a year or two away
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Apple’s development timeframe is roughly 2 years prior to product launch. iPhone 17 is being planned/developed now. iPhone 15 has long been finalized and development will be wrapping up for iPhone 16 if it hasn’t already. It’s very unlikely things will change that substantially over the next 12 months to affect the 17.
 
derdante said:
Looking at it from a purely visual/design standpoint and ignoring the tech for a moment it's pretty wild that it'll take Apple until 2025 to put out a phone with a single camera cutout when Android phones had it since like 2019.
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Not when you understand these three things:

1. There are no underscreen cameras, and therefore face-id sensors, which can be flawlessly hidden while off. There is always a shimmer, glimmer, or difference compared to what’s displayed on the surrounding screen.
2. Underscreen cameras have worse image quality which also affects sensor accuracy. Not something you want on sensors which protect access to your banking apps.
3. Unless 1 & 2 are solved perfectly Apple users will bitch endlessly and create complaint-based hashtags.
 
yegon said:
I assume then mine aren’t polarised. Tbh, I’ve no idea what polarisation is/does, haha, and I expect you have to purposely buy ones that are?

Of mine, one pair are cheap anti glare ones I leave in the car, the other ones I wear about are decent ones, £70 or so, can’t recall the brand, not Ray Ban.
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If it’s labeled ‘anti glare’ then it is, most likely, polarized.
 
yegon said:
I assume then mine aren’t polarised. Tbh, I’ve no idea what polarisation is/does, haha, and I expect you have to purposely buy ones that are?

Of mine, one pair are cheap anti glare ones I leave in the car, the other ones I wear about are decent ones, £70 or so, can’t recall the brand, not Ray Ban.
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Look at a car hood or window with the glasses in front of you and turn them 90 degrees. If they are polarized you should see some difference in the light reflection on the surface.
 
I’m sure I read somewhere else that the under the screen face ID was coming this year … 🤔
Oh well, wishful thinking I guess!
 
boak said:
I can't be the only one who thinks Dynamic Island is taking up too much vertical space. It sticks out like a sore thumb on the screen.
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Well yeah. Dynamic Island isn't really a feature, it's wrapping a requirement for sensor space in the least offensive way possible.
 
MacRumors said:


The "iPhone 17 Pro" will be the first iPhone to feature under-panel Face ID technology, according to display analyst Ross Young.

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In an updated roadmap shared on Twitter earlier today, Young claimed that the under-display Face ID technology will still be accompanied by a circular cutout for the front-facing camera. This implementation is expected to persist until 2027's "Pro" iPhone models, which will also move the camera under the display for a true "all screen" appearance.

The forecast differs from Young's initial roadmap shared in May 2022. Previously, he expected 2024's iPhone 16 Pro models to be the first to feature under-panel Face ID technology. Last month, Young said that this one-year delay was due to "sensor issues." The change means that the two display cutouts that currently compose the Dynamic Island will apparently persist unchanged through three successive "Pro" iPhone generations.

Young also said that the standard iPhone 17 models will adopt ProMotion, a feature that is currently exclusive to Apple's high-end devices.

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I’m sure this will perfectly work well with full face mask😀
 
Ion-X said:
I don't want Face ID. It doesn't work with sunglasses, it doesn't work from weird angles, etc. (It's all for safety and security reasons, but it's nonetheless a headache).
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In my experience it works with very dark and polarized sunglasses and from some pretty ridiculous angles. It does, however, require you to look (unless you turn that off).
 
Pretty loose rumour given it’s 3 iPhones away. A lot can happen in that amount of time.

“Apple to gain 240hz promotion display in 2050”.
 
darngooddesign said:
What you described is a Static Island. Dynamic Island is a feature. I like it, you might not.
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It's not really a feature. The adaptive notifications are the feature; dynamic island is the way they implement it to hide those two dead spots.

Put it this way: If they didn't have those two dead spots, they could do anything. But they do have those dead spots, so they do this particular thing.

If a future iPhone doesn't have dead spots, it might still have some sort of always-on adaptive notifications (and that certainly is a feature), but it might be less prominent when in standby.
 
sdf said:
It's not really a feature. The adaptive notifications are the feature; dynamic island is the way they implement it to hide those two dead spots.

Put it this way: If they didn't have those two dead spots, they could do anything. But they do have those dead spots, so they do this particular thing.

If a future iPhone doesn't have dead spots, it might still have some sort of always-on adaptive notifications (and that certainly is a feature), but it might be less prominent when in standby.
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Nobody predicted Touch ID or Face ID. Apple may come up with something totally new.
 
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