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chucker23n1

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....is there some aspect about this that needs to happen in person that requires delaying?

Not necessarily, but there's all kinds of limitations. Apple, for instance, mostly prefers not to do remote work. They heavily work in teams that meet in the same room.

Yes, you can do virtual whiteboards and video conferences and all, but it's not really the same. With graphical creative stuff in particular (new glyphs for an emoji typeface), I imagine Apple uses a lot of "analog" prototyping: drawing on a piece of paper, maybe even handicraft in some cases.

Doing that remotely is just less efficient.
 

parseckadet

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Not necessarily, but there's all kinds of limitations. Apple, for instance, mostly prefers not to do remote work. They heavily work in teams that meet in the same room.

Yes, you can do virtual whiteboards and video conferences and all, but it's not really the same. With graphical creative stuff in particular (new glyphs for an emoji typeface), I imagine Apple uses a lot of "analog" prototyping: drawing on a piece of paper, maybe even handicraft in some cases.

Doing that remotely is just less efficient.
Honestly, I don't think that's the issue. Any professional worth a damn, which I assume includes most people at Apple, should be able to adapt to working remotely. At least under normal circumstances anyway. We're not talking about people making physical goods here, or interacting with the public. I think the real reason for productivity losses are the other challenges we're facing these days. The first one that comes to my mind is parents needing to find ways to still work while also caring for and teaching their children. Children who are locked up inside all day long with not enough to do. Add to that the fact that people are getting sick and not working at all as a result, or caring for family members who are sick.
 

MacBH928

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Is there something I am missing? Why do they keep releasing so much emojis? These used to be called smilies for fun expressions but why do we need a Dodo emoji and a mouse trap emoji? like how many times those will be used?
 

chucker23n1

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Honestly, I don't think that's the issue. Any professional worth a damn, which I assume includes most people at Apple, should be able to adapt to working remotely.

Adapt to, in emergency situations? Sure. Use it under normal circumstances? It really isn't that simple.

At least under normal circumstances anyway. We're not talking about people making physical goods here, or interacting with the public.

Even virtual goods (software, or as the case may be, typefaces) can work better with in-person collaboration. Tools like video conferencing, live code sharing, etc. can be interesting, but they're just not the same.

I think the real reason for productivity losses are the other challenges we're facing these days. The first one that comes to my mind is parents needing to find ways to still work while also caring for and teaching their children. Children who are locked up inside all day long with not enough to do. Add to that the fact that people are getting sick and not working at all as a result, or caring for family members who are sick.

Yes, there are other issues as well.
 

Analog Kid

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Is there something I am missing? Why do they keep releasing so much emojis? These used to be called smilies for fun expressions but why do we need a Dodo emoji and a mouse trap emoji? like how many times those will be used?
Ah Unicode... the once respected consortium behind a global standard. How far it’s fallen!

It doesn’t get any less ridiculous with every new batch. Quite the opposite. People are entitled to express their opinion, and there appears to be a majority (here) of the opinion that it’s over the top with no end in sight.

What is their end game?

So as sure as Unicode will release yet more batches of unnecessary pictographs (they’ve gone way beyond emoticons after all) people will call them out on it, and so they should!

It's worth pointing out that Unicode isn't ASCII. It's not one stripped down set of characters meant to cover the most common needs. It's an enormous superset of everyone's needs.

There are 144,000 characters. I've probably only ever used 200 of them. My utilization of the standard is down in the fractional percents. I'm not going to suddenly now get up in arms that a few characters I don't care about got added.

Besides, they're adding freaking bubble tea. If they add that and a few hundred others I'll never use then my percentage use of the standard will still notably increase.

People seem to be up in arms that there are symbols in the table they don't need in their daily lives, and treating it like a political statement. I'll guarantee you that the same sex couple characters get used more than half of the dead or minor languages that are encoded. Leaving them out would have been a political statement.

Of course there's an argument to be made that emoji probably didn't need to be included in the Unicode spec to begin with, and that's a fair argument, but that ship has sailed and it is by far the most popular part of the standard so it's not going away anytime soon.
 
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iHate You

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You mean I’ll have to wait 6 months for even more emojis I don’t use?

Hopefully there will be more important current events which will distract me ?
Hopefully nothing that will distract us from creating more genders we need to survive this crisis so we can create more genders. I want something in a wedding dress I can’t even comprehend.
 

PickUrPoison

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Hopefully nothing that will distract us from creating more genders we need to survive this crisis so we can create more genders. I want something in a wedding dress I can’t even comprehend.
It seems the Unicode emojis recognize rather than create other genders. Some cultures have long recognized the existence of multiple genders.

For instance there are Native American tribes that had five words for gender, each thought of as being a gift from the Creator. There’s no reason why Unicode should exclude them, is there?
 

PostApple2016BrainWash

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Is there something I am missing? Why do they keep releasing so much emojis? These used to be called smilies for fun expressions but why do we need a Dodo emoji and a mouse trap emoji? like how many times those will be used?

The emoji is something that should be updated with every new release of OS.
 

CarlJ

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Is there something I am missing? Why do they keep releasing so much emojis? These used to be called smilies for fun expressions but why do we need a Dodo emoji and a mouse trap emoji? like how many times those will be used?
New ones are getting created because people ask for them. But this isn't Apple creating new emoji, the Emoji subcommittee of the Unicode Consortium does that. Apple simply implements the character sets that the Unicode Consortium has made part of the standard. If you want the continual accretion of new emoji to stop, talk some sense into the Emoji subcommittee.
 

chucker23n1

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New ones are getting created because people ask for them. But this isn't Apple creating new emoji, the Emoji subcommittee of the Unicode Consortium does that. Apple simply implements the character sets that the Unicode Consortium has made part of the standard. If you want the continual accretion of new emoji to stop, talk some sense into the Emoji subcommittee.

I mean, yes, but Apple employees are also among the driving members of that subcommittee.
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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New ones are getting created because people ask for them. But this isn't Apple creating new emoji, the Emoji subcommittee of the Unicode Consortium does that. Apple simply implements the character sets that the Unicode Consortium has made part of the standard. If you want the continual accretion of new emoji to stop, talk some sense into the Emoji subcommittee.
Apple should have a switch in settings: Emoji on/off. Flip the switch off, and the emoji keyboard and all emojis in messages turn to little boxes. Problem solved.
I mean, yes, but Apple employees are also among the driving members of that subcommittee.
That's why it's called a consortium. :p
 
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