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Yes because airplanes do not rely on anything electronic to fly.
Yes because airplanes do not rely on anything electronic to fly.
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United Airlines Deploying 11,000 iPads to Pilots as Electronic Flight Bags
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It's the year 2011. I sure as hell wouldn't get on a plane if I thought the cockpit was strewn with paper charts! (maybe a backup sextant just in case?) These are commercial airliners, not galleons!!
You do realise that the actual flight surfaces and systems are controlled by computers not wires & pulleys?!?
Because Apple has such a great track record of locking down iOS
Yeeaaahhh....
"no applications on these iPads that aren't approved"
Where have I heard that before ?
Sorry to be so sarcastic, but I just get freaked out thinking of all the dangerous possibilities
Because that would cost a fortune.
Do you know what it takes to add a new load to the electrical system on most aircraft? Especially in the cockpit?
Do you know what it takes to add a new load to the electrical system on most aircraft? Especially in the cockpit?
OK, I'm all for it. I think the iPad seems like a perefect tool and being "greener" is good but...
Really? How much fuel can you save from 38 pounds...
I mean, in 2020, they'll have saved quite a bit of fuel but right now, it sounds a bit like someone's trying to convince the bosses...
Really?
How much fuel can you save from 38 pounds... I mean, in 2020, they'll have saved quite a bit of fuel but right now, it sounds a bit like someone's trying to convince the bosses...
Because Apple has such a great track record of locking down iOS
Yeeaaahhh....
"no applications on these iPads that aren't approved"
Where have I heard that before ?
Sorry to be so sarcastic, but I just get freaked out thinking of all the dangerous possibilities
Again why would I try to hack the company onboard iPad to install Angry Birds when in theory I can slip out my iPhone/iPad/Android whatever that I already own from my bag and play whatever I want?
The reason this rule is applied, is that in the early days of cell phones, the FAA determined that some devices would cause certain types of fire alarms to report fires when no fire was present. As such it's mostly their way of "better safe than sorry".
Maybe you wouldn't do that.
But who's to say someone won't, especially if the simple Jailbreak exploits work on this iPad as well?
Also, Who said they would be all that locked down?
Oddly enough, you CAN actually fly a plane straight to the runway (it's called VFR).
1)Nice pitch for Apple
2)Come on...the 38 pound reduction is another Let's Go Green crapola from yet another company. Technically, with everything else being equal (all flights are not equal), sure, saving 38 pounds must amount to some fuel savings...but you're telling me saving 38 pounds on an AIRPLANE carrying hundreds of people and thousands of pieces of luggage...all amassing to about 800,000 pounds. Lots of carry-ons weigh more than 38 pounds! Babies weigh more than 38 pounds! Different weight people on each flight...etc.
Again, nice sales pitch ra ra ra for saving the earth from paper consumption and saving that $.02 on fuel. But the real answer for UA using the ipad was all in the lets-finally-go-digital rather than the weight savings. It's all about companies, in any shape or form, reducing paper and improving business processes and efficiencies through computer use.
2)Come on...the 38 pound reduction is another Let's Go Green crapola from yet another company. Technically, with everything else being equal (all flights are not equal), sure, saving 38 pounds must amount to some fuel savings...but you're telling me saving 38 pounds on an AIRPLANE carrying hundreds of people and thousands of pieces of luggage...all amassing to about 800,000 pounds. Lots of carry-ons weigh more than 38 pounds! Babies weigh more than 38 pounds! Different weight people on each flight...etc.
Again, nice sales pitch ra ra ra for saving the earth from paper consumption and saving that $.02 on fuel. But the real answer for UA using the ipad was all in the lets-finally-go-digital rather than the weight savings. It's all about companies, in any shape or form, reducing paper and improving business processes and efficiencies through computer use.
because pilots many of whom are ex navy/air force pilots and went to the best colleges in the US are just like basement dwelling nerds who feel the need to screw with everything electronic just to break it
This is FANTASTIC news for United's pilots...
...it's just a pity that flying United is such a PITA that I'd go out of my way to avoid it.
Now, if they gave their passengers iPads, that might be another matter.
...it's just a pity that flying United is such a PITA that I'd go out of my way to avoid it.
Now, if they gave their passengers iPads, that might be another matter.
Because Apple has such a great track record of locking down iOS
Yeeaaahhh....
"no applications on these iPads that aren't approved"
Where have I heard that before ?
Sorry to be so sarcastic, but I just get freaked out thinking of all the dangerous possibilities
What would be dangerous???? I can't think of what would be dangerous about an iPad even if they did put their own apps on there?
Well, with the exception of the MD-88, MD-90, B-717, DC-9 and some others - but your point is totally correct
The Eiffel Tower in the background...nice touch.
This is exactly what I was talking about
So the air carrier has determined my iPad is safe to use at all times including take off and landing? I sort of knew that all along, but it's good for them to friggin' ADMIT it, and stop being an ass about it!
OK, I'm all for it. I think the iPad seems like a perefect tool and being "greener" is good but...
Really?
I mean, in 2020, they'll have saved quite a bit of fuel but right now, it sounds a bit like someone's trying to convince the bosses...
I saw a documentary on American Airlines on CNBC. You'd be amazed at home much fuel/money they saved by doing stuff like this. Its just 38 pounds for this paper/ipad switch but when you add up all the little savings they have been doing (bringing less food/ice, replacing whatever with a lighter whatever), and then multiply that by all the flights, they save millions a year.
Funny how our NYC to Paris to Dubai to Maldives flights all had 220 Volt power at the passenger seats, so you could plug in and use a laptop never mind recharging an iPad.
It seems a lot of the commenters here haven't been on a modern passenger plane lately.
Oddly enough, you CAN actually fly a plane straight to the runway (it's called VFR).
DUH but United doesn't fly VFR. All commercial airliners fly IFR.