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Unlocked 3G iPhone to Launch in Italy?
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I would expect them to do so...
There has been a huge amount of protest against the single carrier-offer (and here in Belgium it's against the law).
On top of that: iPhone-sales didn't reach their target in Europe (or so they say) so it might be reasonable to think Apple is going to change strategy... and I for one would be happy!
Maybe this means that WWDC wil get a full international launch with the saying 'iPhone 3G available in every store in 2 weeks!'! Come on Steve...
yno what.. come to think of it..
they had that contract with at&t for that very model... and the 3G iphone would be another model.. so they might just let it out into the wild, open and all..
everywhere... even in the U.S.
that would be something.!!
This is getting very off topic, but surely, historical is not with a silent h? (I'm Danish, so if I'm wrong that's my excuse
It does not have a silent H.
I'd very much love to see unlocked iphones. If I hadn't bought an unlocked one a long time ago, I'd still be waiting, as they don't sell it officially in Switzerland, where I'm originally from, nor in Spain, where I'm living right now.
The concept of a locked phone doesn't work very well in Europe anyway. I have SIM cards from Switzerland, Italy, France and Spain and as long as Apple doesn't agree to pay my romaing bills, I'd never buy a locked phone (that cannot be unlocked )
The concept of a locked phone doesn't work very well in Europe anyway. I have SIM cards from Switzerland, Italy, France and Spain and as long as Apple doesn't agree to pay my romaing bills, I'd never buy a locked phone (that cannot be unlocked
)From what I understand it's an old english practice - from the 15th century or even earlier. I'm surprised that of late I've seen more and more of it (especially on this site - but on EU sites, as well). And, no, historical does not have a silent "h".
Whatever - we all know what it means anyway.
They are probably hoping to benefit from TIM marketing efforts. I'm not sure Apple want to try that on their own. And TIM is probably able to offer excellent matching services immediately, including flat rate web access.
This is the first thing that came to my mind too. Doesn't seem fair to the rest of the telephone companies.
Maybe Apple is going to get out of the AT&T contract in the US somehow.
I think there might be a slight possibility of releasing in Italy first (15%).
But only as a one off deal to bend the arm of a carrier to sign up to apples 'unusual' contract.
Otherwise, and ultimately, a worldwide release date for each new iphone device will be apples best option, to keep all carriers happy, and to stem the sale of grey market devices.
But only as a one off deal to bend the arm of a carrier to sign up to apples 'unusual' contract.
Otherwise, and ultimately, a worldwide release date for each new iphone device will be apples best option, to keep all carriers happy, and to stem the sale of grey market devices.
I don't see the problem. Visual voicemail is no technical prodigy. Italian phones have had a similar service for more than 10 years, where the user would get an SMS with the number of the caller who left a message. Steve makes it sound like he discovered the wheel
Must we continue to go over this! Firstly American prices are without tax...and secondly prices cannot reflect day to day exchange rates. Dollar to Euro I guarantee you make more than your American equivalent!
It's not an American thing...it's correct English!
Use ‘an’ only if the ‘h’ is silent as in hour, heir and honourable. ‘A’ if the ‘h’ is pronounced: history, helpful, healthy.
I don't see the problem. Visual voicemail is no technical prodigy. Italian phones have had a similar service for more than 10 years, where the user would get an SMS with the number of the caller who left a message. Steve makes it sound like he discovered the wheel
That's not the same as visual voicemail..
Weeks folks.... weeks...... !!!!
OK.. am I alone in thinking we WILL see a 3G iPhone on the streetz in the good ole'USA BEFORE WWDC?
OK.. am I alone in thinking we WILL see a 3G iPhone on the streetz in the good ole'USA BEFORE WWDC?
Congrat for the ppl there!
Im still happy with my 2.5G iPhone now, only wating for enterprise apps.
Just ... why Italy?
Im still happy with my 2.5G iPhone now, only wating for enterprise apps.
Just ... why Italy?
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You are correct. Using "an" before a word that begins with any letter other than a vowel is poor grammar even by American standards. I usually just push through and ignore these sort of mistakes.
shov said:
You are correct. Using "an" before a word that begins with any letter other than a vowel is poor grammar even by American standards. I usually just push through and ignore these sort of mistakes.
err...
Itally??? who's in itally? Release it in a proper country/continent - Australia. It's a laugh, Australia has both an extensive GSM, EDGE and 3G network and has done so since the iphone ever launched... it's about time Australia get's something...
Itally??? who's in itally? Release it in a proper country/continent - Australia. It's a laugh, Australia has both an extensive GSM, EDGE and 3G network and has done so since the iphone ever launched... it's about time Australia get's something...
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Yeah that was my guess but I was hoping that my thinking was contrary to the rest of the world.
ajbrehm said:
Yeah that was my guess but I was hoping that my thinking was contrary to the rest of the world.
Let me say that no other Italian newspaper today has this news about the iPhone.
Repubblica is "well respected" but the details are still only rumors....
Repubblica is "well respected" but the details are still only rumors....
Anyone know if AT&T contract covers 3G?
If the contract with AT&T only covers the Edge version of the iPhone then all the world will rejoice in 6 months ;-p
Anyone have any details on the contract? Is this a possibility? What is the length of the contract anyways? Will it end within the year (18 month exclusive partnership?)
If the contract with AT&T only covers the Edge version of the iPhone then all the world will rejoice in 6 months ;-p
Anyone have any details on the contract? Is this a possibility? What is the length of the contract anyways? Will it end within the year (18 month exclusive partnership?)
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I believe that your example is improper grammar as well but what do I know. The "H" in historical is not silent when I say it but again what do I know.
gloss said:
I believe that your example is improper grammar as well but what do I know. The "H" in historical is not silent when I say it but again what do I know.
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You have the correct use there. I'm going to stop replying to these now.
miketcool said:
No, in the States we work full 40 hour work weeks and do plenty of overtime. The "an" is surely a typo when this poor sap was multitasking and hit the "n" key and space bar at the same time.
However, when our "h"s go silent at the beginning of a word, we tack on the "n" to our "a"s.
Give it an hour, and you'll understand. That, at least, is an honest opinion.
You have the correct use there. I'm going to stop replying to these now.
Australia??? who's in australia? Release it in a proper country - Canada. It's a laugh, Canada is right beside the US and has just as much cell coverage. it's about time Australia get's something...
lol
Just kidding.They should release it in Australia and Canada at the same time.
You know what though.... for the love of air, they should just release the damn thing everywhere. Seriously. Make it so! MAKE IT SO!!!!!
And I've never liked "an historical." The H isn't silent, right? So why is it "an historical"? Why! But why!... but if Patrick Stewart says it like that in X2, it must be right. So I'll leave it alone. Engage.
Maybe there's pressure from other 3G phone makers out there, but it seems to me (based on viewing 3G coverage maps) that it's too spotty here in the U.S. to be really profitable at the moment.
There are times Apple just needs to be a bit more patient.
There are times Apple just needs to be a bit more patient.
In european countries, where this marketing practice is allowed and in use, an "unlocked" mobile phone costs more than a subscription + phone bundle. This is pretty common and customers accept it quite well.
In Switzerland, for example, I can buy a BlackBerry 8310 for about US$ 350 if bundled with a 24 months "Pro" subscription (50 US$/month).
The same device costs US$ 800 without bundled subscriptions, that is 130% (!!!) overprice!
The same practice (on the other side), lets carriers give (low/mid cost) mobile phones for free or very little cost (for example US$ 1.00), if bundled with a subscription.
In other countries, such as Italy, this is not permitted (by law).
So, to offer the iPhone as a standalone product is something mandatory in markets like Italy.
Maybe it is possible to bundle it with online services (push mail, visual voicemail...), but not with a carrier subscription!
I really hope that Switzerland will follow Italy's model and offer a free iPhone at a higher price, but also leaving the option of subscription based offers.
Cheers!!!
Aueua
In Switzerland, for example, I can buy a BlackBerry 8310 for about US$ 350 if bundled with a 24 months "Pro" subscription (50 US$/month).
The same device costs US$ 800 without bundled subscriptions, that is 130% (!!!) overprice!
The same practice (on the other side), lets carriers give (low/mid cost) mobile phones for free or very little cost (for example US$ 1.00), if bundled with a subscription.
In other countries, such as Italy, this is not permitted (by law).
So, to offer the iPhone as a standalone product is something mandatory in markets like Italy.
Maybe it is possible to bundle it with online services (push mail, visual voicemail...), but not with a carrier subscription!
I really hope that Switzerland will follow Italy's model and offer a free iPhone at a higher price, but also leaving the option of subscription based offers.
Cheers!!!
Aueua