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Unreleased MacBook Pro 6,1 and 6,2 Referenced in Mac OS X 10.6.2

Considering that 6_1 and 6_2 are both present means that they are just laying the foundation inside the OS for new products, as an earlier poster remarked. It looks as if they have something cooking, but then an update to this new update is already planned.


wizard said:
I know time flies but it would be six months if the new MBPs come out in November. Even longer fo the 17" model.

Besides that Apple has to keep somewhat in sync with Intels release schedule or suffer due to outdated looking hardware.


Dave
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I agree Dave, but Apple seems to not care about how far behind in regard to technology they are in respects to competitors.

m-lo said:
Seriously ready for a new MBP - I won't get the base model this time.
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Promise??? I'm sorry, I couldn't resist hahaha
 
I can't see Quads in the MBP range yet, just too power hungry.

Speed bump, and possible ION2?

Would love to see 13" matte, SDD+HDD, and or early Arrandale.
 
SilentCrs said:
If they release a new model this year I'm likely never buying a Mac again. Yearly updates I can tolerate. Changing after only 6 months smacks of the iPhone "let's drop the price $200 a few months after" debacle. I'll go with a different brand.



No offense, but "photo illustration, brochure design", etc aren't really "pro" activities. When people think "pro" they think 3D rendering, broadcast television, etc. Not coming up with the dinner menu for some local restaurant. There's a reason you're still running on a Mac Mini.
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his comment was about running pro apps. Adobes apps are considered pro.

I work for ad and design agencies that hire me as a professional high end digital retoucher, with other projects such as illustration and design.

projects include major airlines, health care and electronics. I must of been speaking out of my ass when I said dinner menus for local restaurants. :p

don't assume, it makes you look like a Jack ass.
 
Santabean2000 said:
I can't see Quads in the MBP range yet, just too power hungry.
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A lot of people say this but don't realize that the platform costs in terms of power consumption have gone down under Lynnfield/Clarksfield since you are dropping the northbridge functions and memory controller as separate entities from the processor. You just have the processor and PCH now.

Santabean2000 said:
Speed bump, and possible ION2?
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ION2 does seem rather likely but at the lower end.

Markov said:
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/note.../pd.aspx?refid=laptop-studio-1555&s=dhs&cs=19


$999 config, Core i7. Can't be too power hungry if many other manufacturers have them in their mobile lines already. =O
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A shining example. I can configure it to my liking for about $100 more than the base price.
 
flippo said:
man.. I just got my new 15" 2 days ago..
damn.. hopefully not in the next month so I would not be so upset.
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Don't hold your breath people. I wouldn't expect any updates on the MacBook Pro line until end of first quarter next year. The MacBook Pro line follows closely with the iMacs, but the power usage is a problem. The new iMacs put out tons of heat in those monitor slots at the top. You can't have that with a notebook. Mobile versions and possiblely 32nm process that uses less power will be needed so Intel is driving the time table for MacBook Pro updates.
 
2992 said:
I've got a White MB for my gfriend a few days before the new UniWhitePlastic MB announcement, and I'm so happy! :D At least, going for that model I knew exactly what to expect from that laptop.
I've got the UniAluMB a year ago just after it came out, and now I'm so pissed off coz I have no SD card reader, a ****** screen, and it was al.........:
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what's the deal with wanting SD card readers? I'd rather forgo this any day and sync a camera via a cable, if it means better processer/HD or blueray/USB3 (I can dream).

Mind you, SD reader addition would only cost a couple of bucks per machine for apple.
 
Peace said:
I always thought Gigabyte and ASUS were both owned by ASUSTEK,inc. Taiwan. Could be wrong though. It has been a while.
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ASUSTeK = ASUS.

ASRock is a budget motherboard subsidiary of the whole. The ASUSTeK name only seems to get rolled out when making third party hardware while the ASUS name is for in house products.

Gigabyte is independent.
 
Eidorian said:
They're different companies. Though they may use the same suppliers for certain components. Then again who doesn't?

NEC appears to be making the USB 3.0 controller for these Gigabyte P55 feature update boards. Marvell is just releasing a new stepping of their SATA 3 controller with the working IDE functions.
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Well that teaches me for not checking stuff for myself.

But then, what was up with all that hype a couple of years ago about Asus and Gigabyte merging?

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6411

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Eidorian, you uber excited for BigBang? MSI is one of the few companies that hasnt let its quality slip IMO.
 
wackymacky said:
what's the deal with wanting SD card readers? I'd rather forgo this any day and sync a camera via a cable, it it means better processer/HD or blueray/USB3 (I an dream).

Mind you, SD reader addition would only cost a couple of bucks per machine for apple.
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I highly doubt that the addition of an SD card reader would stop blu ray, USB 3.0, or a better processor from being added into the new mbp's. If you check out the new iMac tear down on ifixit.com, you'll notice the SD card reader takes up .05% of the entire case. And as far as costs go for adding an SD reader, well, you seemed to have figured that one out. lol
 
MorphingDragon said:
Eidorian, you uber excited for BigBang? MSI is one of the few companies that hasnt let its quality slip IMO.
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Only if the product can deliver on its promise of GPU scaling regardless of vendor and even with the PCI-Express lane limitations of P55. I've only seen the MSI P55 based product.
 
well I'm just assuming that because there are only two macbook pro models what carry the number 6 at the end thats its probably core I5 or i7 going in the high-end 15'' & 17'' MBP as options.

I just hope they don't update the 13'' MacBook Pro for a while lol. I mean I aint bothered if it gets outdated, technology always does, but I think it will probably be refreshed in January, NOT at Macworld (sine apple no longer attend it), but sometime in Jan early Feb, I assume.
 
this is rubbish that the Macbook Pro is going to be updated in less 2 months. How long is Mac OS X 10.6.2 going to last? When will 10.6.3 come out? If in more than 6 months it would wise to include the 6.1 and 6.2 mbp
 
heisetax said:
Card slots on Windows laptops are very common. Most of them will take care of more than one card type. pcExpress card slot is now only available in the 17". The Mac laptops are falling farther behind the Windows units in more places all of the time. On the presence of FW800 keeps them ahead in one fashion.

I'd like to see the Mac laptops become more competitive again. But so far that is only wishful thinking.
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Yeah, card slots are pretty common, but before Apple didn't upgrade their externals, only their internals. The same design was kept for a couple of years with only minor processor upgrades. If this rumour about new processors is true, that would be very good and a departure from the usual sluggishness in adopting new hardware.
 
Sounds good! Waiting for a 13" ION2 notebook to replace my aging Macbook. Of course dedicated would be optimal, but I wouldn't expect that from Apple. Anyway, I'll buy when ION2 comes out. MB or 13" MBP, whichever fits at the time.
 
Sir Cecil said:
A few months more and there will be a Macbook Pro 7,1. Then probably an 8,1.
Have I divulged some unknown news?
Is there a soul here who thought there would not be a Macbook Pro 6,1 and 6,2 within the next three or four months?

What qualifies as a rumor these days? That Christmas will follow Thanksgiving this year?
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looks like someone is a little jealous they didnt wait for the new mbp.....
 
Historically, Apple does have a fall notebook refresh, but with so many notebook refreshes this year, I'm wouldn't be surprised if we don't see one. Certainly, it'd seem in Apple's best interest to wait for Arrandale which is due next year, although it's possible they'll split the product line with Core 2 Duo and Core i7 like they did in the iMac although that is a lot of extra design work unlike Arrandale and Clarksfield which can share chipsets.

Seeing the LCD manufacturers are pushing toward 16:9 displays, even if I hate it, I think there's not that much Apple can do to stem the tide without having to pay more for 16:10 displays as volume production moves toward 16:9. As such it wouldn't surprise me to see Apple move to 14" 1366x768, 15.6" 1600x900, and 17.3" 2048x1152 displays. Still with this change, maybe they can bring back the ExpressCard slot for the 15" model.

Assuming Apple convinces Intel to give them Arrandale early for a November MacBook Pro refresh, my guess on a lineup would be as follows:

14.0" 1366x768 Low-End MacBook Pro
~2.26GHz Core i5 Arrandale with 3MB L2 cache (OEM model like current 2.26GHz Core 2 Duo)
2GB DDR3 1333MHz
250GB HDD
Intel GMA + nVidia GT210M with 256MB GDDR3

14.0" 1366x768 High-End MacBook Pro
2.4GHz Core i5-520M Arrandale with 3MB L2 cache
4GB DDR3 1333MHz
320GB HDD
Intel GMA + nVidia GT210M with 256MB GDDR3

15.6" 1600x900 Low-End MacBook Pro
2.4GHz Core i5-520M Arrandale with 3MB L2 cache
4GB DDR3 1333MHz
320GB HDD
Intel GMA + nVidia GT210M with 256MB GDDR3
ExpressCard Slot

15.6" 1600x900 Mid-End MacBook Pro
2.53GHz Core i5-540M Arrandale with 3MB L2 cache
4GB DDR3 1333MHz
320GB HDD
Intel GMA + ATI 4830 with 512MB GDDR3
ExpressCard Slot

15.6" 1600x900 High-End MacBook Pro
2.66GHz Core i7-620M Arrandale with 4MB L2 cache
4GB DDR3 1333MHz
500GB HDD
Intel GMA + ATI 4830 with 1GB GDDR3
ExpressCard Slot

17.3" 2048x1152 MacBook Pro
2.66GHz Core i7-620M Arrandale with 4MB L2 cache
4GB DDR3 1333MHz
500GB HDD
Intel GMA + ATI 4830 with 1GB GDDR3
ExpressCard Slot

Both the High-end 15" and the 17" MacBook Pro can have the 1.73GHz Core i7-820QM as a BTO. Given the low clock speeds of the 1.6GHz Core i7-720QM especially in dual core mode where it can only Turbo to 2.4GHz, I can't see Apple being very enthused with using it, since you could actually lose performance in the average dual core application compared to current 2.66GHz+ Core 2 Duos in MacBook Pros. So I didn't include the Core i7-720QM Clarksfield as a regular configuration even though it's priced similar to the Core i7-620M Arrandale.

I don't see USB 3.0 since there is no chipsets with integrated support and I don't see Apple devoting motherboard space for dedicated chips. It's still early for fibreoptic connections. I'm hoping for Firewire 3200 and Bluetooth 3.0 though. The 15" MacBook Pro would hopefully see the return of the ExpressCard slot and all models would still have SD slots including the 17" MacBook Pro which currently doesn't. It'd be interesting to have bi-directional Displayport support too, although it would be kind of a niche feature. Apple could also use the presumably extra width of a 16:9 transition to put in 4 SODIMM slots like in the iMacs. That would better allow 8GB configurations in a 4x2GB configuration to avoid paying the high prices for 4GB SODIMMs. Although I don't think many laptops have 4 SODIMM slots.

For graphics, I figured that combining Intel GMAs with at least a dedicated low-end GPU is a good compromise for OpenCL support. Intel GMAs do support dynamic GPU switching. AppleInsider reports references to the Mobility Radeon 4500 series which would be a disaster as the replacement for the 9600M GT since it's actually slower and meant as a low end GPU. An alternate GPU arrangement to what I proposed to incorporate this rumour would be to replace the nVidia GT210M with the HD4530, which would be slower, knowing Apple that makes it more likely, but still an improvement over the 9400M. The HD4830 is an aggressive choice being 40nm for mid-range GPU power consumption for the 15"/17" models and not very likely since it's so rare, so I'd settle for a nVidia GT240M (still DX10.1 compliant) or the faster Mobility Radeon HD4600 series. It wouldn't surprise me either if Apple stuck with 256MB and 512MB VRAM configurations.
 
J DILLA said:
looks like someone is a little jealous they didnt wait for the new mbp.....
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LOL Ha-ha. I love seeing the people get jealous. As a jealous person who owns a non-unibody MBP (Santa Rosa, 2007), I can't wait for these new machines to come out. I've been waiting for a MBP with more than 2 cores!

Technology jealousy...It's all cyclical.
:apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple:
 
I think the MBP revision will come sometime In Q1 2010 either in January or in March (depending on tablets intro - They wont introduce them at the same time because some mac lovers will have a heart attack )

They might change the screen aspect ratio to 16 by 9 and maybe the size as well like they did with the Imacs but i highly doubt it since the white MB that just got introduced STILL contains the 16 by 10 ratio currently used in all MBP.

Specwise my predictions are:

13" MBP - will still have the same core 2 duo possibly clocked higher than current generation (either 2.53 or 2.66), and the same 9400m nvidia card or a low spec ATI. Screen expected to be 16:9 considering the trend on new imacs possibly 1366 x 768 LED

15" MBP - low end will retain core 2 duos clocked higher @ 2.8 or 3.06 ghz and the higher end having a 1.6 core i7 mobile or the with the higher clocked mobile core i7 as option with 16 by 9 screen at 1600 by 900 LED or maybe a full 1080p resolution screen (1920 x 1080)

17" MBP - Core i7 mobile 1.6 as standard and maybe option for a higher clocked mobile core i7. 16 by 9 screen at full 1080p (1920 x 1080) or higher

This are my predictions for MBP 6.x.

I hope i get it somehow right considering that a 1099 hp pavillion comes with a 1.6 core i7 mobile
 
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