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Up-To-Date Package - What Did You Get?

Please tell me I didn't read someone complain they didn't get the retail box .... yes, unfortunately I did.

Here's what I done, and this is just me.

My UTD disc came.

I backed up my files and restored to Leopard.

I upgraded to Snow Leopard.

I put the Snow Leopard disc in the big white box that came in my iMac box, the one with the keyboard, mouse, restore discs, etc.

I put the box back in the loft (attic).

Why do I need the retail box again? Seriously?
 
zw-gator said:
You think Apple pays consumer pricing on shipping? LOL

I guarantee they have a business/corporate account with Canada post. I say it costs them $2 max to ship this.
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There's a limitation to how cheap this stuff gets. Yes, they probably do pay less than $15, but I'll bet it costs more than $10.

They're not shipping boxes of this stuff to one individual, which would give both Apple & Canada Post savings, it's 1-2 envelopes per average household.
 
zw-gator said:
How people who bought the UTD disc got screwed over:

1. Delayed shipping (Shipped by vs. Delivered on)
2. Not even the retail disc
3. No retail box
4. We paid for something that should have been free (look at Windows 7)
5. You need 10.5.x on the HD before you can install 10.6 (Pain in the ass)
6. The money that you did pay was for shipping and it was shipped the slowest method possible (In Canada at least)
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I agree with #1 and possibly #2 but I find it hilarious that when it is most beneficial to people they will use windows as an example but not so much when we talk about how "evil" MS is (to some not including myself).
zw-gator said:
Jessica said so in post #12 and I believe I have read it on this site as well. I'll see if I can find it again.
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Umm Jessica didn't say that at all. I countered a post made by Pika regarding an Engadget article that basically implies you need to trust the installer and do not deviate. ;)
 
amoda said:
There's a limitation to how cheap this stuff gets. Yes, they probably do pay less than $15, but I'll bet it costs more than $10.

They're not shipping boxes of this stuff to one individual, which would give both Apple & Canada Post savings, it's 1-2 envelopes per average household.
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I'm in the UK and received mine via second class post. This costs a maximum of 76p for a package the size and weight of what Apple sent me. I had to pay them £7.95 for the Snow Leopard Up-to-date scheme, of which £1.04 was tax. What have they spent the other £6.15 on?
 
jkozlow3 said:
For those who have received their UTD disc, can anyone confirm if a clean installation is possible? I'll be buying the retail disc if not.
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Everything is now backed up [cloned] so I will now find out if I can do a clean install. I will post back in an hour or so [hopefully!] :D
 
zw-gator said:
You think Apple pays consumer pricing on shipping? LOL

I guarantee they have a business/corporate account with Canada post. I say it costs them $2 max to ship this.
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UH Yes they do. We ship 525,000 pieces a MONTH thru the USPS and Canada post, we pay 2¢ less than you do on a $4 piece, that is ALL the discount we get. Apple is paying close to retail for the high-end services, anything guaranteed and you get next to no discount.
 
christurbo said:
Everything is now backed up [cloned] so I will now find out if I can do a clean install. I will post back in an hour or so [hopefully!] :D
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Hold on a second, I don't think many people are concerned if we can do a erase and install of Snow Leopard if Leopard is already preinstalled. We've been able to do this with a UTD disc for years through Disk Utility, this issue is if we can use the UTD disc to install Snow Leopard from an empty hard drive.

So for example, I just bought a new 320GB hard disk from New Egg and I have a UTD SL DVD. Is it possible to just shove in my disc (excuse the expression :D) and install Snow Leopard from the get go without any version of OS X on the drive?
 
zerostar said:
UH Yes they do. We ship 525,000 pieces a MONTH thru the USPS and Canada post, we pay 2¢ less than you do on a $4 piece, that is ALL the discount we get. Apple is paying close to retail for the high-end services, anything guaranteed and you get next to no discount.
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For a small business account, you can save at least 5% on shipping, just follow this link. And I'm pretty sure you can stack these discounts (18% off?)

It sounds like your company is getting the shaft.

Now, where Apple is shipping WAYYYY more items than a typical small business, they have a lot more leverage when it comes to negotiating a deal with Canada Post.

Again, Apple is paying no where near retail prices on shipping.
 
HLdan said:
Hold on a second, I don't think many people are concerned if we can do a erase and install of Snow Leopard if Leopard is already preinstalled. We've been able to do this with a UTD disc for years through Disk Utility, this issue is if we can use the UTD disc to install Snow Leopard from an empty hard drive.

So for example, I just bought a new 320GB hard disk from New Egg and I have a UTD SL DVD. Is it possible to just shove in my disc (excuse the expression :D) and install Snow Leopard from the get go without any version of OS X on the drive?
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I've been loking for the answer of this question for the past 48 hrs. Still haven't worked out if it's possible. But, I just thought, if you have Leopard on your HD then use Disk Util to format that disk, then install, isn't that the same as having the disk wiped before hand? Easy test would be to format using disk util then restart and pop in the SL disc and try to install.
 
hldomster said:
I'm in the UK and received mine via second class post. This costs a maximum of 76p for a package the size and weight of what Apple sent me. I had to pay them £7.95 for the Snow Leopard Up-to-date scheme, of which £1.04 was tax. What have they spent the other £6.15 on?
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Did you get a tracking number?

Use Canadians didn't get one with our UTD purchases, which means it was shipped via the absolute cheapest method possible.

If all I'm getting is a SL disc without a retail box, I'd rather have NOT paid the $14.50 and just downloaded it off Apple's website and burned it to a DVD.
 
Not every PC purchased now gets a free upgrade to Windows 7! Some of the more expensive ones do, some of the cheaper ones don't! Anyway, I trust Apple to deliver on time than Microsoft dragging their lame ass across the finish line.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Not every PC purchased now gets a free upgrade to Windows 7! Some of the more expensive ones do, some of the cheaper ones don't! Anyway, I trust Apple to deliver on time than Microsoft dragging their lame ass across the finish line.
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But Apple IS dragging their ass on this. Everyone who paid $25-$35 for SL has their copy, but those of us who ordered via the UTD program (many in June) won't get their copy until mid-late next week.

Look, I don't care that I have to wait, I care that care that we were treated as second class customers.
 
hldomster said:
I'm in the UK and received mine via second class post. This costs a maximum of 76p for a package the size and weight of what Apple sent me. I had to pay them £7.95 for the Snow Leopard Up-to-date scheme, of which £1.04 was tax. What have they spent the other £6.15 on?
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Umm the product? Shipping? Production Lines? Manufacturer Fees? Materials?
etc.
 
HLdan said:
Hold on a second, I don't think many people are concerned if we can do a erase and install of Snow Leopard if Leopard is already preinstalled. We've been able to do this with a UTD disc for years through Disk Utility, this issue is if we can use the UTD disc to install Snow Leopard from an empty hard drive.

So for example, I just bought a new 320GB hard disk from New Egg and I have a UTD SL DVD. Is it possible to just shove in my disc (excuse the expression :D) and install Snow Leopard from the get go without any version of OS X on the drive?
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The answer is YES IMO.

I went into Disk Utility - Erased it, formatted it... so there was nothing on it. I then installed SL onto the completely empty drive. There is NO option to erase install / or archive install. The way Apple have designed this disk is so that the only option is to 'install' [which is in effect and archive and install]. I wiped the drive completely prior to doing it.

So....... All done!

You CAN do a fresh clean install with the update disk.

The MBP is very, very quick now [it was quick before!]. Boot up time has decreased by around 5-10 seconds.

This is a before and after disk size.

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I did a little video 'how to' that I will post when I get a chance.


Cheers.
 
zw-gator said:
But Apple IS dragging their ass on this. Everyone who paid $25-$35 for SL has their copy, but those of us who ordered via the UTD program (many in June) won't get their copy until mid-late next week.

Look, I don't care that I have to wait, I care that care that we were treated as second class customers.
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Wrong. When we pre-ordered the UTD, we were promised a September timeframe. Apple did deliver their promise, regardless of whether we were treated first class or second class.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Wrong. When we pre-ordered the UTD, we were promised a September timeframe. Apple did deliver their promise, regardless of whether we were treated first class or second class.
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But so were people who bought in at $30 or $50 and yet they still had their copy on the 28th via overnight shipping, while use UTD people were only shipped on the 28th via the cheapest, slowest method possible.
 
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