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Up-To-Date Package - What Did You Get?

christurbo said:
The answer is YES IMO.

I went into Disk Utility - Erased it, formatted it... so there was nothing on it. I then installed SL onto the completely empty drive. There is NO option to erase install / or archive install. The way Apple have designed this disk is so that the only option is to 'install' [which is in effect and archive and install]. I wiped the drive completely prior to doing it.

So....... All done!

You CAN do a fresh clean install with the update disk.

The MBP is very, very quick now [it was quick before!]. Boot up time has decreased by around 5-10 seconds.

This is a before and after disk size.

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I did a little video 'how to' that I will post when I get a chance.


Cheers.
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Have to say thanks! Been trying to find this info out for a long time!! Won't be getting my SL disc for some time due to Apple cheaping out on postage, but its really nice to know that it's at least a decent disc.
 
zw-gator said:
Did you get a tracking number?

Use Canadians didn't get one with our UTD purchases, which means it was shipped via the absolute cheapest method possible.

If all I'm getting is a SL disc without a retail box, I'd rather have NOT paid the $14.50 and just downloaded it off Apple's website and burned it to a DVD.
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No tracking, sent cheapest way possible, Royal Mail 2nd class post.
 
christurbo said:
The answer is YES IMO.

I went into Disk Utility - Erased it, formatted it... so there was nothing on it. I then installed SL onto the completely empty drive. There is NO option to erase install / or archive install. The way Apple have designed this disk is so that the only option is to 'install' [which is in effect and archive and install]. I wiped the drive completely prior to doing it.

So....... All done!

You CAN do a fresh clean install with the update disk.
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No no no, this is not what I am talking about. Every UTD disc has been capable of doing the method you mentioned. Yes, you can use Disk Utility (as I mentioned earlier) to erase your leopard install, format the drive and install SL. Once the UTD checks that you have a preinstallation of OS X it's always allowed you to erase and install.

I'm talking about installing from an empty drive from the get go. Only the $129 disc allowed this because it didn't check first to see if OS X was preinstalled. The easiest way for anyone with a UTD disc to verify this (and if you want to do this you would be greatly helping a lot of people here) is to partition a small part of your hard drive (just enough to install SL) and install SL onto that partition. If the install begins without a hitch then you've verified what many of us have been wondering. You can always drop the partition after testing.
 
USPS for people in the states, I assume that's the case at least. Mine will be here 9/1.
 
I'm in the uk. I ordered my utd as soon as the site went live. I received my utd on the morning of release via ups and it was in a retail box. I can take a photo if I must.

I can install from a blank drive as I swapped out my 500gb for another incase I wanted to go back to leopard figured 10 minutes hdd swap was easier than reinstalling.

I think apple have done things a bit higgledy piggledy this time. Out of 5 mates that have ordered utd 3 got them on the day via ups the others today by royal mail. 3 had retail and 2 had oem.

Will find out tomorrow if the oem can install on a blank drive.
 
HLdan said:
No no no, this is not what I am talking about. Every UTD disc has been capable of doing the method you mentioned. Yes, you can use Disk Utility (as I mentioned earlier) to erase your leopard install, format the drive and install SL. Once the UTD checks that you have a preinstallation of OS X it's always allowed you to erase and install.

I'm talking about installing from an empty drive from the get go. Only the $129 disc allowed this because it didn't check first to see if OS X was preinstalled. The easiest way for anyone with a UTD disc to verify this (and if you want to do this you would be greatly helping a lot of people here) is to partition a small part of your hard drive (just enough to install SL) and install SL onto that partition. If the install begins without a hitch then you've verified what many of us have been wondering. You can always drop the partition after testing.
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From what you're describing, I don't think that's going to provide definitive proof. You want someone to have 10.5 on a machine, partition a section out for SL and then try to install to that partition? Wouldn't it just check for 10.5 on the original partition?

I think the definitive check would be to erase the drive completely, reboot the machine and then try to install. That'll be the same as if you were to buy a drive and install to it. If the install completes when there's no 10.5, anywhere, to look for, then you know it'll work all the time.
 
The box is pretty. I like boxes, especially pretty ones. I don't want another thrown in the envelope after thought from Apple.

I am now going to Best Buy to pick up my copy in a pretty box for $25. I will keep the lesser than cheapo UTD in its crappy, cheap envelope for the lesser than computers.:p
 
HLdan said:
No no no, this is not what I am talking about. Every UTD disc has been capable of doing the method you mentioned. Yes, you can use Disk Utility (as I mentioned earlier) to erase your leopard install, format the drive and install SL. Once the UTD checks that you have a preinstallation of OS X it's always allowed you to erase and install.

I'm talking about installing from an empty drive from the get go. Only the $129 disc allowed this because it didn't check first to see if OS X was preinstalled. The easiest way for anyone with a UTD disc to verify this (and if you want to do this you would be greatly helping a lot of people here) is to partition a small part of your hard drive (just enough to install SL) and install SL onto that partition. If the install begins without a hitch then you've verified what many of us have been wondering. You can always drop the partition after testing.
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OK - To prove this I will install SL onto a blank SD Card. Give me an hour!:rolleyes:
 
Right - I ran into a hitch. My SD Card was 8GB in size and SL needed 8.1GB to install with all extras stripped off.

However, I did prove that you can do a clean install with this disk.

I erased and formatted my SD Card to the Mac OS Journaled:-

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I then booted from SL DVD and it picked up my SD Card as a source to install the OS. If it had enough space then it would have just run through the install.

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So, as stated - good to go!
:)
 
christurbo said:
Right - I ran into a hitch. My SD Card was 8GB in size and SL needed 8.1GB to install with all extras stripped off.

However, I did prove that you can do a clean install with this disk.

I erased and formatted my SD Card to the Mac OS Journaled:-

Screenshot2009-08-29at213457.png


I then booted from SL DVD and it picked up my SD Card as a source to install the OS. If it had enough space then it would have just run through the install.

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So, as stated - good to go!
:)
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Thank you.
 
SilentCrs said:
From what you're describing, I don't think that's going to provide definitive proof. You want someone to have 10.5 on a machine, partition a section out for SL and then try to install to that partition? Wouldn't it just check for 10.5 on the original partition?

I think the definitive check would be to erase the drive completely, reboot the machine and then try to install. That'll be the same as if you were to buy a drive and install to it. If the install completes when there's no 10.5, anywhere, to look for, then you know it'll work all the time.
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You're not getting where I'm going with this however the OP has addressed this. If you partition a portion of your hard drive that has available space and you install SL on that portion, it's the same as installing it on an empty drive. If it performed a check for Leopard then the UTD can't be installed on a brand new empty drive out of the box.
 
Gav2k said:
I'm in the uk. I ordered my utd as soon as the site went live. I received my utd on the morning of release via ups and it was in a retail box. I can take a photo if I must.

I can install from a blank drive as I swapped out my 500gb for another incase I wanted to go back to leopard figured 10 minutes hdd swap was easier than reinstalling.

I think apple have done things a bit higgledy piggledy this time. Out of 5 mates that have ordered utd 3 got them on the day via ups the others today by royal mail. 3 had retail and 2 had oem.

Will find out tomorrow if the oem can install on a blank drive.
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please post pics with model number
 
rgarjr said:
Anyone know if you're able to return these UTD disc back to Apple? A lot of un-patient people have went out and just got the 29 dollar ones.
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Why return something you didn't pay for ? The $9.95 that we paid is for shipping. You can't get the shipping refunded. And BTW, the word is impatient.
 
Gav2k said:
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No i was just wondering whether you got the retial build in your order. Because the Mc.... code shows up differently on the UTD order status than the retail. I just wanted to see if I should still be expecting a disc or a disc and a box.
 
christurbo said:
I thought I would have got a nicely packaged SL. This arrived.

Is this what you got?

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Its labelled as an upgrade DVD, I read that some people think you can do a full clean install with it [without 10.5]. I suppose I might try to do this later to see if it is true.
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My SL upgrade disk I bought from Best Buy for $29.00 says on it "Install DVD" I noticed in your pic yours is labeled "Upgrade DVD" Other than the labeling I wonder if they might be different, I doubt it but one way to find out boot our mac with the DVD in the drive holding the option key select boot to DVD and see if you can do a full install, if so than it should be the same.

David
 
david803sc said:
My SL upgrade disk I bought from Best Buy for $29.00 says on it "Install DVD" I noticed in your pic yours is labeled "Upgrade DVD" Other than the labeling I wonder if they might be different, I doubt it but one way to find out boot our mac with the DVD in the drive holding the option key select boot to DVD and see if you can do a full install, if so than it should be the same.

David
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Hi,

I used it to do a clean install - all detailed in a video guide I did here:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhLU...om/user/bullychris&feature=player_profilepage
:)
 
I have both discs here and there is some differences between them. I made a "diff" on all files and many differs but here are the relevant differences:

Mac OS X Install DVD = Install DVD
Mac OS X Install DVD 1 = Upgrade DVD

diff -r Mac OS X Install DVD/.fseventsd/fseventsd-uuid Mac OS X Install DVD 1/.fseventsd/fseventsd-uuid
1c1
< 5473069E-F6A6-4B7E-8BD2-213958570E40
\ No newline at end of file
---
> DC2ABF03-7F1C-429C-98CE-3947B5C1470B
\ No newline at end of file
Only in Mac OS X Install DVD 1/System/Installation/CDIS/Mac OS X Installer.app/Contents/Resources: CheckForOSX
Only in Mac OS X Install DVD 1/System/Installation/Packages: UpgradeDVDMask.bom
Only in Mac OS X Install DVD/System/Installation/Packages: UserDVDMask.bom
Only in Mac OS X Install DVD 1/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.bootstamps: 57D2BEF0-D8A6-3C9A-9827-49453CBE2060
Only in Mac OS X Install DVD/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.bootstamps: CB66A6CF-2854-343C-B21A-7D4D2485030B

I don't know if the Upgrade DVD can do a clean install with nothing installed on the hard drive nor on an external attached hard drive as I upgraded the Leopard installation of my 13" MacBook Pro with the Install DVD last weekend while I was still waiting for my Upgrade (Up To Date) DVD that will now sit with my Leopard Install DVDs waiting for my next reinstall, in a couple of years I hope. I purchased the Install DVD for my girlfriend's MacBook (early 2008).
 
Got my UTD disc today. It shipped Friday from Valencia, CA via USPS first class. I live in north Texas.

It arrived in a plain yellow bubble mailer; the disc was in a paper sleeve that wasn't sealed in any way and a copy of the features pamphlet was thrown in as well, just like the OP.

The disc is labeled "Upgrade disc" and includes build 10A432. I went with the default installation procedure and everything seems to be working fine. Little hiccups here and there like long program launches, etc..., but they seem to be ironing out the more I use the machine.

Overall, not really much of a difference. Regained about 11gb (most of which is from the new method of measuring disc space I assume)...but nothing really seems faster. Granted, I don't have much on this machine as I just bought it...but still, I thought I would see something. Shut-down and boot up is a little quicker, but within the OS everything still feels the same.

*Edit*

I thought I would mention my feelings on the whole situation.

I'm rather disappointed by all of this. First of all, my $10 was supposed to be shipping. Something tells me a disc in a paper sleeve thrown into a bubble mailer and mailed USPS doesn't cost $10. Second, I'm upset that my disc didn't ship out UNTIL release day. Those who pre-ordered the retail disc received theirs ON release day. What makes them a more important customer? I just dropped $1100 on a damn computer, I'm a paying customer as well.

Second, since when is product launch just a big beta? This seems to be more and more common these days with every company....nobody was pressing them to release early, the had at least another 2-3 weeks before anyone was really expecting anything. Maybe they could have ironed out some bugs in that time, eh?

I made the switch to apple because it works. Not so much lately...But hey, whatever. I'm just another dumb consumer Steve, keep telling me what I want.
 
Ieo said:
Got my UTD disc today. It shipped Friday from Valencia, CA via USPS first class. I live in north Texas.
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i am only 45 mins away from Valencia and i cant believe it couldnt arrive to me in 1 day. my noticed when out shipped on Friday. i thought it was shipped out somewhere in another state. oh wells.
 
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