You can always send it back and wait until the new unit ships.
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Upcoming 13-Inch MacBook Pro Models to Use Intel's 10th-Generation Ice Lake Chips
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You can always send it back and wait until the new unit ships.
I’ll be kinda annoyed if they update the 16” with the new processors before mid-year. I’m assuming the only change would be the processor and integrated card and that’s it, but still, they should have waited to release the 16” with the new tech. I’d be really mad if they put new D graphics cards in the 16” but assuming that will be the same.
Does it seem like 10nm is a bust? 12% better performance? probably not much difference in battery life?
Forever and a day to get to market.....
Forever and a day to get to market.....
I think it'd be logical for a 14" MacBook Pro to have a slightly higher resolution screen, with the extra size able to house the renewed scissor keyboard keyboard.
Given that Apple doubled the storage on the 16" Macbook Pro for no additional cost it could see two SKUs offering 512Gb and 1Tb SSD with 8Gb of RAM.
I would like to have seen standard RAM doubled to 16Gb (with 256Gb and 512Gb SKUs) rather than increasing the storage but obviously Apple's hedging against NAND prices probably means the storage will double instead as it did with the 16".
This would also suggest the next iPad refreshes will be interesting - double storage there (and in iPhones) would be a useful selling point with the iPhone SE2 on the horizon.
Given that Apple doubled the storage on the 16" Macbook Pro for no additional cost it could see two SKUs offering 512Gb and 1Tb SSD with 8Gb of RAM.
I would like to have seen standard RAM doubled to 16Gb (with 256Gb and 512Gb SKUs) rather than increasing the storage but obviously Apple's hedging against NAND prices probably means the storage will double instead as it did with the 16".
This would also suggest the next iPad refreshes will be interesting - double storage there (and in iPhones) would be a useful selling point with the iPhone SE2 on the horizon.
It could happen. Apple did this to the 2019 15" buyers. They bought a 15" with butterfly keyboard and within 6 months the 16" was shipping.
Welcome to ever improving technology.
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Icelake is certainly Intel 10nm which is broadly equivalent to TSMC's 7nm.
Considering AMD still hasn't released their 7nm laptop CPUs I'm not sure how you think it's old hat.
Yup.
Right now, i have a 2015 that has a battery that is rapidly degrading. I'm not sure i really want a 16" machine, and unless i fork out about $4000 AU for one, Apple have nothing in their lineup that interests me right now.
I'd consider an air but a dual core in 2020 just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Like i'm about to be sick even thinking about it.
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Let's keep this pace going, Apple. New MacBook Air and Mac mini at an affordable price..... you hear me? ... affordable, where it should be. 🤣
Absolutely. Also they need to start letting people being able to upgrade the storage and RAM rather than soldering it all to the logic board and charging an arm and a leg to upgrade!
The 10bit HEVC comes from Apple's T2 chip, not the Ice Lake. That will be not used. AVX-512 is also something rarely used. VRR is not very to Apple. If you're thinking these will have 144Mhz displays forget about it.
The GPGPU on these are crap and they won't be on the 10nm process, but the 14nm+++. Nothing about this as a product now or in the future is a smart move, not just for Apple but the entire industry. Intel is pigeonholed for the next 18-24 months with high yield failure rates on 10nm, never mind anything smaller.
Q3 Zen 3 arrives on 7nm+ for APUs, CPUs, Server CPUs, TR CPUs. By the time 10nm yields are fixed AMD will be using TSMC 5nm who are presently investing in over $25 billion in new 5nm Fabs to meet their growing demand and Intel's shrinking capacities.
The RAM is nice, and we can thank Micron for that.
I think they should update whenever ready. Although, I would feel frustrated too. That being said, I will go all in on a 16” MBP that uses 10th Gen Intel with upgrades graphics and WiFi. Not to mention, I think we are talking mini LED with up to 10,000 LED backlight lighting zones. That’s why it’s supposed to be October 2020. Or second half 2020 by Mr. Ming-Chi.
and then BAM and it's the 14" gem! one can still hope...
I got a Lenovo Yoga 14" three months ago and it has the 10th generation i7. It's completely ordinary for Apple to be at least one full generation behind on Intel processors.
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How about ARM procs? If they were given more power and cooled properly, they would absolutely ruin any PC processor.
Sounds awesome. As a writer I appreciate the (hopeful) return of the good keyboards — but what I’m really waiting for is another ultralight MacBook.
Yeah, the Air should probably have 4 cores at the point. We're not quite there, but dual is almost not worth it for more casual users.
Might want to check this out:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?
For some reason, the fastest 10th generation i7 is slower than the bottom end of the 16 inch MBP. And no I9 8 core At all.
so, unless intel releases chips, not gonna happen.
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if it runs macOS instead of windows, sign me up. Seriously, how much do you get for these posts?
did you mean the surface pro 7, or the surface book 2? Pretty slow from reviews
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Which makes sense considering the previous generation of scissor switch keyboards was rock solid.
Yes. Just like PC specs don't matter if they run Windows, Mac specs don't matter if the keyboard is trash.
Ice Lake integrates two streams of HEVC decode/encode - why wouldn’t Apple use that?
AVX-512 is something for the future, I’m a bit tired of people saying ‘it’s not being used bla bla bla’ it’s probably not for you then but there’s absolutely areas I can see it being used. I don’t just plan on using this laptop in 2020.
I’m well aware of the failure of Intel’s 10nm process - especially as a TSMC and AMD shareholder. It’s never the less a welcome addition at last, even if it’s been cut back in scale. I’m looking at buying a new MacBook for both my wife and I, which is why I’m welcoming these chips which are long overdue. The on chip integration of TB3 and 802.11ax are great from a power consumption point of view. I was very underwhelmed by the 16” hardware.
I really hope so see Zen 3 APU’s and CPU’s in Apple soon. No need to lecture me, I have a MSc in EEE and do this stuff for a living.
whether they increase the screen size or reduce the footprint, I cannot believe they do not reduce the screen bezels as they did for the 16“. Apple is normally consistent on such kind of details.
