Won’t the bezels be too small to house a headphone jack? I would hate to see a notch just to accommodate a headphone jack.
Nope. Device is more than thick enough to easily shove a jack in. Zero effort.
Won’t the bezels be too small to house a headphone jack? I would hate to see a notch just to accommodate a headphone jack.
This point about the headphone jack can be debated until the cows come home. The fact is the iphone does not offer one. If you can't discuss this issue without labels then maybe one shouldn't be discussing this issue. It's highly unlikely that apple will do a 360 on the iphone, just like touch ID, it's gone.There is no big picture here. Nothing is stopped by offering the port. You can do all the fancy wireless stuff while still offering the port. That is just simple fact, and arguments from the other side read like cult speak.
It's not that I don't 'see' the bizarre argument you are making, it's that I reject it as a way functional adults should think.
Yes because remove functionality for no real reason duhMore people will be mad about the lack of a headphone jack than the number of people who would have used the jack if it were included.
You can't force the issue if you still offer the port. that is the basic essence of getting rid of it. Like the optical drives back in the day.
Why? You can always use the lighting to 3.5 dongle. If Apple replaces the lighting port with USB-C I bet you they make another dongle just for that. No worries. There’ll be a way to connect your headphones.Air Canada forbids using Bluetooth headphones at any phase during a flight on their Dash-8 series birds. So much for using my iPad on my flights.
Yup, just carry three different dongles and you'll be able to use your headphones! No big deal! /sWhy? You can always use the lighting to 3.5 dongle. If Apple replaces the lighting port with USB-C I bet you they make another dongle just for that. No worries. There’ll be a way to connect your headphones.
I’ll just add these to the 25 other dongles I need for my surface pro and camera equipment.Yup, just carry three different dongles and you'll be able to use your headphones! No big deal!
Yup, just carry three different dongles and you'll be able to use your headphones! No big deal!
I love it - Apple puts nothing but USB-C ports on the Macbook Pros - it's the future! Next phones arrive - lighting port is the future! New iPads arrive - USB-C is the future!
But hey, at least it's thinner. Thank goodness, that's what I always wanted, a thinner iPad.
It isn’t necessarily only about device thickness.Nope. Device is more than thick enough to easily shove a jack in. Zero effort.
Man if you’re not on Apple’s payroll you should be!!!
Ushering in a new world order = axing the headphone jack.
Holy Jesus tap-dancing Christ.
Yeah but usually its to push something that is a decidedly better system. Theres a lot of drawbacks to bluetooth in comparison to wired. Each persons use case will be different, for some wired is a must, for some wireless is a must.
Having a 3.5mm jack gives people the option to use what works best of them. Removing it forces people to use cumbersome solutions to keep using what works best for them. On the iPhone its somewhat justifiable because of space constraints, but on a big tablet, especially a "pro" tablet, it makes no sense.
Yeah but usually its to push something that is a decidedly better system. Theres a lot of drawbacks to bluetooth in comparison to wired. Each persons use case will be different, for some wired is a must, for some wireless is a must.
Having a 3.5mm jack gives people the option to use what works best of them. Removing it forces people to use cumbersome solutions to keep using what works best for them. On the iPhone its somewhat justifiable because of space constraints, but on a big tablet, especially a "pro" tablet, it makes no sense.
It has nothing to do with device thickness.
How does Apple put a 12mm deep headphone jack in a device with 6mm or 9 mm bezel?
Good thing Dash-8 airplanes don’t do long flights. So most of the time a dongle won’t even be needed.
You're describing an abuse. Removing the optical drive allows you to offer a different kind of product, as the optical drive is huge and thick. The headphone jack is not meaningfully thicker than the lightning port in the context of a phone or tablet - those devices will always have to be thicker than X on account of the nature of human hands.
So, Apple gains a small amount of space. In turn, the customers lose meaningful utility. Over time, the bad will generated will harm Apple.
No one here has managed to say how you fit an audio jack inside the iPad when the bezels are too narrow to accommodate it.You don't understand the dimensions of this device. I can't explain it to you, but no one else is confused here.
Yeah and I bet airpods made you forget what good headphones sound like too.
Removing the optical drive allowed for the creation of a different type of computer than that which existed prior. When laptops get thinner (up to a certain point) and lighter (up to a point!) you enable new use cases. It's dual purpose.
Apple is trading customer satisfaction for cash. That kind of thing catches up to you.
Actually, no. I don't suck it up and buy a dongle. I go to a vendor that isn't actively hostile towards me. Don't reply to me again, I've thrown you on my ignore list on account of you not having the intellectual capacity to engage in meaningful discussion - just Apple bootlicking & attacking others.
No one here has managed to say how you fit an audio jack inside the iPad when the bezels are too narrow to accommodate it.
Thick and full of battery would be better.
You're describing an abuse. Removing the optical drive allows you to offer a different kind of product, as the optical drive is huge and thick. The headphone jack is not meaningfully thicker than the lightning port in the context of a phone or tablet - those devices will always have to be thicker than X on account of the nature of human hands.
So, Apple gains a small amount of space - space that already plentiful and unoccupied in the iPad. In turn, the customers lose meaningful utility. Over time, the bad will generated will harm Apple.
I would argue that Bluetooth is better in the areas that matter to Apple, and Apple will likely be able to engineer away the pain points of using wireless headphones.
There is another option - rethink your workflow so as to take better advantage of the newer options available to you.
The jack that the headphone plugs into is a certain height, width and depth behind that hole. Is there room for it, once the display comes so close to the device edge?Why do you need bezels to accommodate it? How do they manage to drill in the ports on iPhone and this design if you required a bezel. Not following the logic.
The jack that the headphone plugs into is a certain height, width and depth behind that hole. Is there room for it, once the display comes so close to the device edge?
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I use the headphone jack every time I fly. EarPods sound good for something wireless, but they don’t sound very good compared to premium wired headphones. Apple is also not making it easy for headphone cable suppliers to make premium cables compatible with lightning.Good. No one uses headphones on an ipad anyway. If you want to use headphones u should just buy the $160 EarPods.