Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack

[sanook997]

Apple's upcoming iPad Pro could be one of its thinnest devices yet, measuring in at just 5.9mm thick, based on details shared by a leaker on Twitter who previously provided accurate details on the iPhone XS and XR ahead of launch.

According to Twitter user CoinCoin, the upcoming iPad Pro will measure in at just 5.9mm, and due to its thinness, there will be no room for Apple to include a headphone jack.

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The 5.9mm estimate matches up with alleged iPad Pro dimensions shared yesterday on Slashleaks, which suggested the new iPad Pro would measure 5.86mm thick.

It is also in line with current iPad Pro measurements. The existing 10.5-inch iPad Pro is 6.1mm thick, so it would make sense for a new model to be somewhat thinner.

It's likely the 5.9mm estimate applies to the smaller of the two 2018 iPad Pro models that Apple is expected to introduce, which could be somewhere around 10.5 to 11 inches in size. Apple's current 12.9-inch iPad Pro is thicker than the 10.5-inch version, measuring in at 6.9mm thick.

The iPad Pro dimensions shared on Slashleaks yesterday suggest the smaller iPad Pro will be 7 inches wide (178.52mm) and 9.7 inches tall (247.64mm), while the larger model will be 8.5 inches wide (215mm) and 11 inches tall (280.66mm).

We've seen similar dimension estimates in earlier rumors from Japanese site Mac Otakara, suggesting the smaller iPad Pro will measure in at 247.5mm tall, 178.7mm wide, and 6mm thick, while the larger model will measure 280mm tall, 215mm wide, and 6.4mm thick.

Comparatively, the current 10.5-inch iPad Pro measures in at 6.8 inches wide (174.1mm) by 9.8 inches tall (250.6mm), while the 12.9-inch model measures in at 8.68 inches wide (220.6mm) by 12 inches tall (305.7mm).

Bezels on the new tablets could measure in right around 6mm at the top, bottom, and sides, with the 7.2mm measurement on the Slashleaks document perhaps referring to bezel thickness with side button included.

Multiple prior rumors have indeed suggested that the next-generation iPad Pro models will feature slimmer bezels all the way around, with the top bezel housing a TrueDepth camera system for Face ID. The bottom bezel is slimmer than in existing models because Apple plans to remove the Home button.

Coming back to the prediction of no headphone jack, this isn't the first time we've heard that rumor. Back in July, Mac Otakara also said that the upcoming iPad Pro models will not include a headphone jack. iPhone models have not offered a headphone jack since the iPhone 7, with Apple instead encouraging customers to use Bluetooth headphones like the AirPods or Lightning-based solutions.

The info shared on Slashleaks is likely from a case maker and because it's supported with data obtained from other sources, it's quite possibly accurate. Aside from the dimensions of the new iPad Pro models, the info also confirms the presence of a new Smart Connector at the back of the two tablets.

Other 2018 iPad Pro rumors suggest the device will feature a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port, a faster A12X chip, and support for a second-generation Apple Pencil.

It's not clear when the new iPad Pro models will be announced, but their debut is likely coming soon. We're expecting Apple to hold an event at some point in October, with the end of October looking like the most probable option.

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[doublepost=1539401458][/doublepost]Launch the damn thing already......

 

[AppleHaterLover]

I would agree with you IF the idea that Apple wants to “force” people to use wireless headphones held any weight with me.
It does not.
When Apple removed the headphone jack from the iPhone 7, they gave some solid reasons:
*It did not fit at the bottom anymore w/ the Taptic Engine & new solid state home button
*They tried moving it to the top, but it interfered with the antennas
*It made it that much easier to make it waterproof
I believe that all the crowing about how great & freeing bt audio is was more or less to soften the blow. I think that Phil was being completely honest w/ the “space is at a premium & it didn’t make sense for us to include this large antiquated part” comment, if not a tad disingenuous in giving any other reasons. I think that was 100% of it right there.
I don’t think Apple gives a single f**k whether you use analog headphones. I know I won’t give mine up!
Thank goodness they’ve made it ridiculously painless for me to continue using them & until they completely remove a charging port altogether, I don’t foresee even the slightest difficulty.
As some of the math nuts have pointed out... it looks like they’d have to over double the bezel size to leave the audio jack in this iPad. I strongly believe, whatever the narrative, that’s the sole reason it went bye bye.
I have about a 1/2 dozen REALLY nice sets of headphones- from Grado, Sennheiser, Koss, AudioTechnica, Etymotic, etc.
Years ago now, I simply slapped a lightning plug on each one (3/$10 from 3rd parties), & forgot about it. It hasn’t changed my listening habits, nor audio purchasing decisions one iota! I don’t understand all the griping... it never even seems to be from audiophiles at all- just rando people annoyed they had to put an adapter on their Skull Candies, or whatever. *shrug*
Choose your battles. This one is an absolute non-issue... the very slightest & vaguest of one time minor “inconveniences”, in the 2 second process of clicking the adapter on your pair of headphones.

When the government comes to your house and arrests you, and only then makes up a reason to justify it, we’ll talk.

Apple is a dictatorship. First they make the decision and then make up some ******** to justify it.

 

[cmaier]

When the government comes to your house and arrests you, and only then makes up a reason to justify it, we’ll talk.

Apple is a dictatorship. First they make the decision and then make up some ******** to justify it.

I don’t think you understand what a dictatorship is.

 

[Jensend]

That’s not how it works. The bezel has nothing to do with space inside the device.

Here’s a picture of the inside of an iPhone 6S. Notice how the front panel is a lot thicker where the screen assembly is than where the bezel is. Even so, there is a cylindrical groove in the front panel where the headphone jack is. The iPad 10.5 is thinner than the iPhone 6S.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

I don’t think you understand what a dictatorship is.

You give them all your money for reasons you can’t quite understand and they give you some made up reason to justify it after the fact?

 

[Jensend]

I’m curious, how does the USB-C or lightning port ‘stack’ under the display then?

A lightning plug is less than half the thickness of a headphone plug.

 

[T-Bob]

It depends on the thickness of the connector and how far it intrudes into the body of the device. Lightning is thin, and there’s likely room above it to accommodate the display if it needs to stack. iPhones are much thicker than the rumored sub-6mm thickness of these new iPads.

The headphone plug is 3.5mm and the jack adds even more more. If you’re then at maybe 4.5mm including the PCB the jack mounts to, and add the back cover and the front glass, even with no display you’re probably at 5.5mm. And the plug itself is about 12mm deep, much deeper than Lightning.

Here is good example of usb c next to 3.5mm. They’re almost identical height.

http://josh-ua.co/blog/2015/3/15/us...arison-with-the-lightning-port-and-usb-type-a

Not that it matters as the C port is also a similar depth, but IPP will also have larger bezel than iPhones anyway.

 

[cmaier]

You give them all your money for reasons you can’t quite understand and they give you some made up reason to justify it after the fact?

Yeah. That’s not a dictatorship.
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Here is good example of usb c next to 3.5mm. They’re almost identical height.

http://josh-ua.co/blog/2015/3/15/us...arison-with-the-lightning-port-and-usb-type-a

Same thickness. Very different height.

 

[T-Bob]

Yeah. That’s not a dictatorship.
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Same thickness. Very different height.

Thickness? Is that the term for height now. Are you calling the width the height?

 

[cmaier]

Thickness? Is that the term for height now. Are you calling the width the height?

No, you are calling the height the width. Or something

The height of a headphone plug is orthogonal to its diameter, concentric with the cable.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

When the government comes to your house and arrests you, and only then makes up a reason to justify it, we’ll talk.

Apple is a dictatorship. First they make the decision and then make up some ******** to justify it.

never mind, it's good

 

[T-Bob]

Here’s a picture of the inside of an iPhone 6S. Notice how the front panel is a lot thicker where the screen assembly is than where the bezel is. Even so, there is a cylindrical groove in the front panel where the headphone jack is. The iPad 10.5 is thinner than the iPhone 6S.

Missed this post. Also had a look here at the last current gen IPP:
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/NeNrNhtthSIJkCCB.huge
Jack is under there. Considering that LCD would also still have additional bulk of backlight as in your example, perhaps the jack would be slightly too intrusive now. C does have a large back block as well, but might be just small enough to fit in new bezel.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Here is good example of usb c next to 3.5mm. They’re almost identical height.

http://josh-ua.co/blog/2015/3/15/us...arison-with-the-lightning-port-and-usb-type-a

Not that it matters as the C port is also a similar depth, but IPP will also have larger bezel than iPhones anyway.

You’ve got to think about the dimensions of the jack the plug is going into. See the iPhone 6S photo in post 282.

The 3.5mm plug inserts much farther into the device than would a USB-C plug, 12mm vs. 8mm.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Users lose meaningful utility regardless of if you accept it or not. You know why, and you don't care.

nope, 100% disagree. it's no different than losing the HDMI port/displayport/SD card reader/dedicated charging port on the MacBook. I use them everyday, but still think Apple made the right decision in removing those ports.

 

[Ghost31]

Oh I dunno if you can afford a $700+ tablet you can afford a $10 adapter. If you’re a true pro sound engineer you already have adapters for the iPad anyway, so it’s moot.

“Dude I’m a professional” then proceeds to state how they’re too stupid to use an adapter. I’ll never understand this

 

[PickUrPoison]

Missed this post. Also had a look here at the last current gen IPP:
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/NeNrNhtthSIJkCCB.huge
Jack is under there. Considering that LCD would also still have additional bulk of backlight as in your example, perhaps the jack would be slightly too intrusive now. C does have a large back block as well, but might be just small enough to fit in new bezel.

Looking at the 12.9” for example, assuming the same display dimensions as the current model and if the leaked dimensions are accurate, the bezel is about 8.5-9 mm. So it seems possible a USB-C jack could fit in the bezel space. It would be tight, but Apple is a master at dealing with tight tolerances.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Think we are mixing up terms, I meant depth into device, not the Z height. Here is image inside IPX where you can see how far items like the lightning port and SIM cards intrude into the chassis:

now i'm getting confused. i'm thinking depth as in the thickness of the phone. isn't that what you're referring to? or are you saying Apple should create a larger bezel?

here's the teardown of one with a headphone jack. headphone jack seems to use the majority of the thickness of the chassis.

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Isn’t it light enough?

12.9" is about the same weight as the iPad 1. The iPad 1 was already heavy enough, but combine that with a larger form factor makes it feel much heavier to hold than the iPad 1

 

[Abazigal]

When the government comes to your house and arrests you, and only then makes up a reason to justify it, we’ll talk.

Apple is a dictatorship. First they make the decision and then make up some ******** to justify it.

And Apple isn’t holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy their products either. They release a product designed in a manner they feel affords the best user experience (based on their own definitions), and the consumer then makes a conscious purchasing decision based on their own needs.

That’s all there is to it.

 

[T-Bob]

now i'm getting confused. i'm thinking depth as in the thickness of the phone. isn't that what you're referring to? or are you saying Apple should create a larger bezel?

here's the teardown of one with a headphone jack. headphone jack seems to use the majority of the thickness of the chassis.

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12.9" is about the same weight as the iPad 1. The iPad 1 was already heavy enough, but combine that with a larger form factor makes it feel much heavier to hold than the iPad 1

Nope, that picture illustrates well how 3.5 fares inside that height so indeed it probably is too big now. Never use 3.5 myself so not bothered.
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Nope, that picture illustrates well how 3.5 fares inside that height so indeed it probably is too big now. Never use 3.5 myself so not bothered.

Ugh this forum script is unusable on my mobile safari for some reason. Just wanted to add that looking very forward to removal of those chamfered edges that scratch so easily.

 

[kahkityoong]

Good. No one uses headphones on an ipad anyway. If you want to use headphones u should just buy the $160 EarPods.

What if you don’t want your music to sound like junk?
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Well, that's makes 12 out of 7 billion that, for sure, use wireless headphones. The odds are still pretty much in his favor.

I think his point is that he has 10 friends

 

[AppleHaterLover]

What if you don’t want your music to sound like junk?

You should do like the poster above and use a counterfeit $1 adapter to plug in your expensive Sennheisers.

 

[PickUrPoison]

What if you don’t want your music to sound like junk?

It’s possible to output analog audio over USB-C, so it would sound no different than using the 3.5mm headphone jack. But you’d need an adapter.

However, anyone who really cares about audio quality is probably using an external DAC.

 

[falainber]

It’s possible to output analog audio over USB-C, so it would sound no different than using the 3.5mm headphone jack. But you’d need an adapter.

However, anyone who really cares about audio quality is probably using an external DAC.

Bring back the headphone jack: Why USB-C audio still doesn't work

 

[PickUrPoison]

Bring back the headphone jack: Why USB-C audio still doesn't work

Use the right adapter and you’ll be fine. It should be pretty inexpensive, Apple sells the Lightning version for $9, and it has a built-in DAC. The USB-C version could be strictly analog.

 

[BMcCoy]

However, anyone who really cares about audio quality is probably using an external DAC.

Yup; and most likely using the Chord Mojo, with the Apple ‘Camera Connection kit’ for the lightning to usb connection necessary to connect to the Mojo.