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Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack

code-m said:
Most studios have these adapters readily available and are plentiful. Unless I am being informed that these studios professional equipment is BT ready or USB-C ready.
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Bluetooth audio is not really going to cut it for pro audio. Unless its AptX HD or a proprietary HD codec like Samsung UHQ at 24 bit 96kHz.

I believe Apple uses lossy AAC over bluetooth.

https://darko.audio/2016/09/assume-bluetooth-piped-aac-apple-makes-an-ass-out-of-you-and-me/

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For those toting a pair of Sennheiser Momentum Wireless headphones, an Astell&Kern XB10 Bluetooth amplifier or a Wyred 4 Sound bLINK, better sound quality will more-than-likely result from pairing with an aptX-equipped smartphone – i.e. not the iPhone 7. Here the aptX-loaded Samsung Galaxy S7 betters its Apple rival.

Only if/when Apple unleashes a) their own superior-sounding Bluetooth codec or b) offers lossless Bluetooth-like streaming is this likely to change."
 
dysamoria said:
Agreed. Apple design decisions make no sense anymore. Today’s Apple isn’t the same company that won me over years back.

I use my iPad Pro audio out jack all the time because I use it for music work and for watching videos (i connect it to an amp & speakers). The adapter doesn’t provide power into the lightning port. It took Apple way too long to give us a USB socket with a power connector for iPad (and it lacks a regular data connection on that power socket). I don’t see them releasing a lighting connector with all three (charge/power, USB, audio I/O), ever.

People at Apple who are making the decisions on how to design things, and which bugs matter to be fixed, aren’t using their own products enough.
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But, when the cordless audio is up to par with wired audio, apple will be one of the companies which made that happen.
code-m said:
Lol, I guess in recording studios BT headphones and devices are being used for their superior quality.
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I use both wired and wireless headphones, I like wired as I do not have to charge two devices and my phones battery charge does not take a significant hit compared to wireless.

Don’t like using wired that’s cool, others do. If you want to remove it offer a rebate.

If I did not use the lightening port on my iPhone, maybe Apple should remove that too (looking forward to that day).
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How can you say that? Using the 3.5mm also uses power, driving dac and amplifier, and with a headphone jack and all the hardware in an iPhone/iPad battery capacity would likely be less.
 
Fthree said:
these things will be $1500 and your complaining about a $160 pair of AirPods? Im not saying I have a ton of $$$ but if your going to use the best iPad why not use the best headphones that they make FOR IT with it? This kind of reminds me of the complaints about the AC+ cost. If you are buying a premium device you should be prepared for the premium accessories.
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I have airpods but the volume on those are pretty low. Plus, I like having options to either use wireless or analog. Options are nice to have.
 
fokmik said:
It was proven that at 6.1" thick the device can bend very very easy....now on 5.9" really? i mean users will now have to be careful how they hold their next ipad pro in landscape in their hands...a little flex will bend the device??
I hope will not be true...6.1"mm its minimum with aluminium 6000 series
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I suspect it will need a case, and a rigid one at that. Maybe they could make a stainless steel XS version.
 
code-m said:
200 years, over-exaggerate much. Yet music studios and a lot of high end audio equipment still have it as standard. Let me guess the iPad Pro is more pro than professional music equipment that is used to create the very content used by an iPad user for consumption.

By this logic we should replace pencils,pens,paper, etc. Let’s get rid of the toothbrush while we are at it, I am sure it is old tech.
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And to add to this, most pro audio gear uses a 1/4” jack, which is even older than 3.5mm.
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ValO said:
But, when the cordless audio is up to par with wired audio, apple will be one of the companies which made that happen.


How can you say that? Using the 3.5mm also uses power, driving dac and amplifier, and with a headphone jack and all the hardware in an iPhone/iPad battery capacity would likely be less.
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You realize all those things you mention are still inside the phone powering the speakers right?
 
nbourbaki said:
Yeah, unfortunately that's just one leg on a 3 leg trip. I really love the QC35, very comfortable, but you can't charge and use them at the same time. So for short haul, it's QC35 all the way, on longer trips, I have to augment them with the QC20i. The early reviews of the Sony is that they get hot after a couple of hours of wear. The QC35 doesn't, at least for me.
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You may want to get the battery in your QC35s checked. I use them for flights with 16-20 hour one way travel time, and a 1-2week stay and don't need to charge them until I return home. I leave them active the entire flight-- watching video, reading and sleeping. They're rated for 20hours of battery life, but I've been getting substantially more than that.
 
JesterJJZ said:
And to add to this, most pro audio gear uses a 1/4” jack, which is even older than 3.5mm.
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You realize all those things you mention are still inside the phone powering the speakers right?
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Yes, but they are not powered when using bt headphones, and there is no sound from the speakers of the iPhone itself. Right?
Sound is coming from the DACs and amplifier that is build inside the blue tooth headphone, right?


With 3.5mm headphones, the headphones are passive and need to be converted to an analogue signal by the iPhone and need to be amplified by the amplifier in the iPhone.

The only way you would be right is when playing audio through headphones and from the phones speakers at the same time. I don’ t think these situations exist, or are necessary.
 
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truthertech said:
Relax, you can keep you nice headphones. You're on the wrong thread or not understanding this one. The issue was whether you needed a 3.5 mm port to plug into the airlines' entertainment centers, you don't anymore because they all pretty much offer wifi, not whether you plugged into your own device with your headphones.
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I can attest that not all airlines offer this, especially regional and inter Europe.
 
WBRacing said:
Careful, you'll stir up the portphobes on this site who'll start on you about the correlation between professional activities and 3.5 mm prehistoric technology. ;)
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The index finger is even older technology.
 
Pelea said:
The real infuriating thing is having a headphone jack that was made like 200 years ago on a Brand new iPad! Get rid of it
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Which all the professionals, studios etc use to date.

You won’t find Bluetooth in there.

I guess we should also dispose of the top hundred year old GPRS feature and make it work on 3G, LTE/4G only? Replace the screen with a holographic projector?
 
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dannyyankou said:
I don't care about shaving .02mm off the thickness, I'd rather have a battery that's .02 mm thicker
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The fascination of people with battery sizes really boggles my mind! iPads have a great battery life as they are. I feel like if you present e people with the device that have a week lasting battery life, they would still desire a larger battery life that lasts a month. Just the nature of people. Life makes no sense if there is not something to complain about.
 
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camera bump on ipad, because of dimensions only affects the eye design but not the functionality on a table like iphone does
 
BvizioN said:
The fascination of people with battery sizes really boggles my mind! iPads have a great battery life as they are. I feel like if you present e people with the device that have a week lasting battery life, they would still desire a larger battery life that lasts a month. Just the nature of people. Life makes no sense if there is not something to complain about.
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Imagine if we had an iPhone XS Max as thick as the original iPhone but lasted a week on batter. I doubt anyone would buy it.
 
cmaier said:
I fly a LOT. Many airlines don’t offer Wi-Fi. None are free.

In any event, why do all you people have to keep telling the rest of us we aren’t using the airplane right? We have our needs, our workflows, our use cases. Great that having to have different adapters for each device isn’t something you need to worry about. But for many it is. You telling us we should just fly on different planes, buy different headphones, carry a different bag with different dedicated dongle compartments, etc. is not very helpful.
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JetBlue is free Wi-Fi. Just saying. I fly MORE? Anyway, my workflows and needs adjust to what is possible. Makes life easier.
 
i really think that if apple will bring usbC to ipad...i wonder if Apple can bring Apple display to can be powered by the next iPad ? probably apple display will be 5k 60hz...i wonder how much bandwidth can deliver that usbC ?!.
sadly TB3 is an intel thing so thats out of the question.
 
truthertech said:
You are on the wrong thread. This was discussing whether Southwest Airlines had streaming in flight entertainment so you didn't have to plug in, not who had electrical outlets.
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No, SW air doesn't offer in flight entertainment or power supply in all its flights.

Not the wrong thread son; we are discussing the configuration of a yet to be released product and its hypothetical pros and cons.

Don't shut out other members - if you don't like it, move on.
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Pelea said:
The real infuriating thing is having a headphone jack that was made like 200 years ago on a Brand new iPad! Get rid of it
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Did they even have electricity 200 hundred years ago!

See how hyperbole works - or sounds stupid.
 
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Wanted797 said:
Imagine if we had an iPhone XS Max as thick as the original iPhone but lasted a week on batter. I doubt anyone would buy it.
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It is all about having something to complain. Of course on that scenario the thick design would serve perfectly the ones who need a reason to complain.
 
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