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Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack
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Environmental issues caused by a headphone jack? That’s new. Last time I heard nature was being poisoned by wireless (5G, for example), not the other way around. How about developing better batteries and stop with the planned obsolescence for a change? That would be really beneficial, not making the devices thinner and lighter more than they already are.
What is more funny is the fact this is forced over all users and the same company continues to sell these dongles. Do you really believe they are waiting for everyone to adopt BT headphones? Sounds to me fear of backlash and users wanting to opt out.
What is more funny is the fact this is forced over all users and the same company continues to sell these dongles. Do you really believe they are waiting for everyone to adopt BT headphones? Sounds to me fear of backlash and users wanting to opt out.
I have no idea what you were doing with those headphones, but I'm using my (sub 300$) Sennheisers daily for more then 3 years and they are still in TOP condition. Quality products last. And I wouldn't trade them for any other "wireless" model, hate the idea of having to charge headphones.
I understand the push for new technologies, but ditching Audio Jack to make a device a mm thinner is simply stupid, IMO.
I've own PLENTY of Sennheisers (not the over-ears, but the earbuds). Granted, the cheapest one only lasted about 3 months (it was the CX 275). They all eventually failed. I don't smash them into my gym bag, but I also don't roll them up neatly either. It's a hassle to neatly tie them up, so I usually just roll them up around the buds whenever possible and place it in the gym bag.
If you only use your headphones/earbuds at home and never take it anywhere, it's obviously going to hold up longer than taking it outside the house.
Who said it's for the sole purpose of making it thinner? There's more thought put into the design of these devices than that. Apple doesn't make these decisions lightly.
You're overreacting. No one said his experience "was false," just that one comment from an employee doesn't negate the demonstrable facts that Southwest Airlines, like EVERY other major US airline has switched over to wi-fi as an option for their in-flight entertainment systems. Does that mean that it's working on every single flight? -no. But, when some posters, post that most airlines don't offer it, or that it isn't free, that is indeed "fake news."
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You're not "denied the choice" to use wired or wireless connections on air craft that still have legacy 3.5 mm ports. Even your wireless headphones typically still come with a wired connection should you decide to use it. However, it is being phased out as airlines that want to save on costs can offer in-flight info/entertainment systems much cheaper via wi-fi than in seat back screens.
That’s akin to saying google benefits by pushing cheap android handsets.
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What planned obsolescence?
I thought countless reports of users complaining their iPhone's batteries lost their capacity thanks to awful iOS versions (including that 11 fiasco) was enough to convince you.
These batteries are s.hit and never last enough, losing their capacity over time. If there's one thing I hate is having to recharge every single day.
So you have to replace yours in a few years (if iOS doesn't make the device useless - and you can't remove these updates once they are there - another proof Apple does this practice). This may seem cheap for US residents but it's expensive in the rest of the world.
Especially if you are talking about an iPAD.
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iPad's battery is not designed to be user-replaceable. Apple will replace an iPad that does not hold an electrical charge with a refurbished iPad for a fee. As a different unit is supplied, user data is not preserved. The refurbished unit will have a new case. The warranty on the refurbished unit may vary between jurisdictions.
Independent companies also provide a battery replacement service, returning the original unit with new battery but original case. Alternatively it is possible for a technically competent user to buy and install a new battery. The task does not require soldering, but is technically challenging.
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Besides, these Apple products always get a low score from iFixit, meaning once they break there's no repair. You are forced to buy a new one. Did you know the Airpods got a (rare) zero score?
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3001574/apples-airpods-get-a-rare-zero-score-from-ifixit
"The AirPods, which have already come under fire for costing £65 to replace when losing them is almost built into the design are, according to iFixit, poorly constructed, almost impossible to repair and unrecyclable."
Really, I would be more concerned if my device would need to be recharged more often instead of caring about a headphone jack or making these products lighter than they already are.
How about BT headphones that don't need to be recharged often? There were days I had to do this 3 times with my Airpods.
And what happens once your Airpods (or whatever BT headphone you use) needs to be recharged more often over the years? I bet their battery won't be in pristine condition in the future. While the wired versions will last many years, provided you take good care of them.
Batteries die because they do. Sometimes they are defective and they give out sooner. Android has the same issues with batteries and sometimes they catch fire as in note 7.
It is not clear about what you are intimating about iOS. It should be clear from iOS 12 Apple does not engage in p/o.
If you hate having to recharge everyday you have the wrong vendor. Even android has to be recharged everyday, unless you don’t use their phones.
Your post seems like more of a rant than anything else.
I'll echo that. I currently have two pairs of Sony MDR V6 headphones, one 6 or 7 years old, one three years old. The oldest I use at home, mostly, plugged into my receiver watching movies on my Apple TV, and when I want quality playback on my iPad. The other pair I use on video jobs to monitor sound from microphones and feeds from theater sound boards. I just replaced the ear-pads, as they wear out after a year or two, but despite being thrown around the living room, tossed into equipment bags, just treated poorly in general, they both work and sound great.
While my AirPods also are great, and literally are in my ears 80% of my waking life, I'm infuriated that Apple thinks that removing the OPTION to use wired headphones is a way to force us to ONLY use wireless.
No, I am explaining that Apple creates these issues and at the same time demand for you to either replace the battery (they will profit anyway) sooner than expected or buy a new device that is not reducing your battery life after a major update. This is what P/O entails.
With headphones they resort to the same tactics. They claim "wireless is the future", "it's a bold step" and other nonsense c.rap because if you argue against and at least reach a conclusion there's no winner and at best it's a tie (wireless vs. wired) then you are old fashioned.
I prefer everything digital and don't like physical books or media (CDs, DVDs...), that doesn't mean they should all be burned, that are all useless (that's like saying emulators have replaced all old videogame systems) and support for the old should end.
There are good reasons for the old still be here. You'll always have pros and cons for everything in this life.
If given the chance most would not buy an iPhone without the headphone jack. And no dongles.
The problem with Apple is that what we want doesn't matter. And that's why I said the more they do this sort of thing the more they alienate their customers. I know the prices aren't going to be changed from this.
What I am sure is... it isn't about cost, thickness, comfort, audio quality or any other benefit.
It's about greed. Also, the fact the iPhones continue to sell despite that doesn't prove I am wrong AT ALL.
People will continue to buy because of their hype. Just like those paying for Netflix despite the reduced movie catalog (not their fault, though).
Because everyone have (or want) them, or they sell thanks to whatever good it was there before. Not to mention the faithful customers that replace their phones every year.
If you don't know how marketing practices create artificial demand then I suggest you do a good research on that.
The exact number of buyers (from iPhones or the two types of headphones) no one really knows for sure. Do you really trust Apple to tell you that?
With 200 million customers Apple will not please everybody. Having said that, please list the issues Apple creates. I do not have any “issues” with my Apple products.
If your battery dies, it will cost a cheap $29 for a replacement. My battery life has been fairly constant since iOS 9 although one can tell good work went into iOS 12, battery life is stellar. No signs of p/o here.
Headphone jack, I do t care one way or the other. If it bothers you that much there are phones with headphone jacks.
I’m also sure Apple got to $1T because of profits first, customers second. You may not be wrong, but people may not care at the same intensity.
If you want to know why a company such as Apple can get to 1T with a myriad of faults, I suggest you research Peter Drucker, instead of implying Apple customers are “isheep”.
Lastly do I trust Apple to be truthful? Yes, more than other companies.
If they do it, I'm sure it will be proprietary to some degree—either certain APIs on the software end or a new Wx chip on the hardware end or both—because stock bluetooth doesn't address this at all. Apple is already going all-in with wireless audio and at some point they'll have to address it.
I'll miss the headphone jack, my point wasn't to dismiss the concerns, only to point out that I think there's reason to hope that they will be addressed.
As a side note, I really wish Apple would sell/license the Wx chips to 3rd parties. The Beats Studio headphones are a great proof of concept but I'm deeply skeptical of Beats audio/build quality.
That's a good point, but I don't know that I agree. As I was trying to express, for some applications a large touch screen is its self a virtue *IF* the UIX is designed to fully embrace that. Apple's divided iOS/Mac OS approach has some real drawback but I think it does/had forced devs to
People have made serious art with MS Paint. So what? Just because someone did it doesn't mean most (any?) contemporary digital artists would be satisfied with that feature set today. My definition of a professional iOS app is one that offers a comparable level of control/feature set as a desktop variant. I don't think that necessarily means external storage/displays (although I think both are coming). At this point the iPads offer similar storage options to the MacBook Pros (at least the 13" version) and plenty of people manage with the internal drives.
You seem to really, really want a particular feature—a touch bar-esque mode for the iPad—and I hope Apple gives it to you. There are already 3rd party options. Meanwhile, I think there is evidence that Apple is aiming to take the iPad Pros beyond being companion devices. I may be wrong, but my arguments don't preclude/impinge on your desire for a touch bar iPad.
I can still use my headphones with my iPhone X’s, can I get from point a to b without gas and a car?
This would pretty much kill any vestige of pro audio usefulness many apps on the device are designed to accommodate. I have little reservation to the IDEA of wireless audio being the future, but for a product marketed to professionals, it'd be remarkably tone-deaf to remove a critical i/o component that doesn't really have a proper replacement; BT headphones don't actually solve what you lose by removing the port.
Why does everyone talk about this issue in such a binary way. It's not a case of "don't use headphones at all" vs "spend hundreds of dollars on bluetooth headphones". Buy the f##king adapter for a few bucks. If you need to charge at the same time, buy a charge-through adapter. Simples. Sure, you shouldn't HAVE to buy that, but it's small change if you're buying an ipad. Get over it. And if you don't like it, don't buy it at all.
Maaaaate, I have some bad news for you about Apple and how it throws around the "pro" moniker...
Well, this is only a rumor that the headphone jack is going. What I'd rather hope is that Apple sort out the audio lag issues before removing the jack. If the rumor turns out to be true, Apple are putting the cart before the horse.
As I said, long-term, I'm not sure we disagree. Apple are already working on running iPad apps on the Mac, and since my last post and Adobe have announced Photoshop CC for the iPad (but then, painting and drawing is a strong point for iPad). Of course, if a pro app can be ported to the iPad it could be ported to a future ARM-based Mac too, and I'm sure Apple would love to wave ta-ta to Intel if they could. The Mac/iPad distinction could easily vanish in a few years, and I expect that Apple will eventually do a U-turn from "Oh, no, we'll never do a convertible -gorilla arms, argh!" to "Convertibles are magical!" (after all, technology changes) and see some "crossover" devices. There's a few missing links though - like SSD capacities and implementing Thunderbolt on ARM.
However, here, now, today, Apple have a touch-based mobile OS and a keyboard/pointer based PC OS and are still insisting that never the twain shall meet, and I think tablets and laptops need to play to their respective strengths, and iPads have a UI that's great for some "non-textual" interfaces but lousy connectivity. The idea of an iPad as a touch UI for software running on the Mac was discussed by Apple in their last tidbit about the "pro" market (although it sounded like some Apple high-ups had only just found out about Logic remote!)
You and I can get around from point A to point B on a Tesla or similar offerings by other makers.
Nothing I wrote was for abolishing cars (the "headphones") - just those pesky I.C.E cars (wired headphones), the future is after all electric cars (wireless headphones)!
You were making an analogy between the lack of headphone jack and ICE/petrol and cars. I can use my same headphones on the iphone 7, 8, X and XS. But without gas I can't drive my ICE vehicle. All I was pointing out is that your analogy is flawed.
Just to be clear, I would like the headphone jack to stay. But because it isn't, I'm not engaging in over the top over emotional hand-wringing.
Exactly, Apple didn't remove the jack just to make the phone thinner but to make more money as well.
Or people can express that they dislike that direction... you know, on an Apple forum.
For what it's worth, the included adapter sounds awful compared with the headphone jack of my previous headphones. Even though I mostly use bluetooth headphones (Sony WH1000XM2) on the go, my gym headphones are wired. There's also been several times I wanted/needed to connected to another device and wasn't able to because I didn't have the adapter with me.
I find the trend with Apple products is they get in my way far more these days, whether it's an iOS or macOS device.
I work in a second hand electronics shop/e-waste drop off center and wireless earbuds and earphones are pretty toxic stuff simply because of the difficulty removing the batteries. The lithium battery contaminates the copper so it can't be thrown in with wire scrap like regular earbuds and there isn't enough PCB to be categorized as board scrap. Instead wireless audio stuff like that is thrown into the lowest tier of e-waste and literally melted down for scrap scrap where a fraction of what you put in is reusable.
This is assuming the end user actually drops off the headset to begin with.