Upcoming Apple TV+ Sci-Fi Drama 'See' Reported to Cost $15 Million Per Episode

[Lalatoon]

Are you living in last century?

I was born last century and also I'm not from China.

So I did a quick search using Google and it seems Netflix is not available in China. Not just Netflix but other popular streaming sites also. They suggest you use VPN to defeat the Great Firewall of China.

 

[truthertech]

So in "See" everyone is blind but still manage to have perfect hair, and trimmed beards?

So, you assume blind people can't care for themselves and are all disheveled?

 

[LovingTeddy]

I was born last century and also I'm not from China.

So I did a quick search using Google and it seems Netflix is not available in China. Not just Netflix but other popular streaming sites also. They suggest you use VPN to defeat the Great Firewall of China.

China has its own video streaming sites and we do imports lots of TV shows.

Netflix is not available in China and Hulu is not available in Canada.

 

[i-John]

I mean, I hope Apple TV+ isn't a bust, but it sure seems like they’re throwing peanuts at an elephant.

I can’t see it being a “killer”. I may get some share, as pretty much they all do. They are so far behind others who’ve been at it and are really good at it. They’re not really offering anything new. They are doing the exact same thing as everyone else only 5 years too late.

 

[jsmith189]

It's interesting that they're being criticised for spending a lot of money on a service they have no experience in, yet if they b*tched out and only gave us cheaper shows they'd be criticised for not taking their new venture seriously enough.

Lose/lose, it seems?

 

[ipponrg]

It's interesting that they're being criticised for spending a lot of money on a service they have no experience in, yet if they b*tched out and only gave us cheaper shows they'd be criticised for not taking their new venture seriously enough.

Lose/lose, it seems?

Not sure about that. Don’t think anyone would complain if they had decided to not venture into this industry and focus on their core competency again

 

[beanbaguk]

You don't need to keep all those services at once. You can rotate them out.
Netflix on the even months AppleTV+ on the odd months.

If you have children, you will know this is impossible.....

 

[MacBH928]

each company requires a subscription to watch its exclusive shows... the TPB will thrive again... we went full circle.

 

[cardfan]

It's interesting that they're being criticised for spending a lot of money on a service they have no experience in, yet if they b*tched out and only gave us cheaper shows they'd be criticised for not taking their new venture seriously enough.

Lose/lose, it seems?

Who’s criticizing for spending too much? You do realize Netflix’s budget is 15 billion for this year. Apple’s is one billion. If anything they need to spend more at least initially. And I’m not advocating 15 billion or trying to be like Netflix.

Considering what Apple has, this is merely Cook pulling a string. Dipping his toe in the water. It doesn’t feel like a full on commitment to having this service. It feels more like an experiment that’s subject to being dropped at their whim.

Heck I’m being very nice justifying the whole thing thinking Apple is going for subs of 3rd party channels. And that it is their true goal as long as they get 30 percent.

I can even see why they would pass on buying say a Time Warmer when it was up for grabs. However it gets harder to make excuses for them when they lose to ATT for JJ Abrams. Whether you like him or not he’s one you want exclusive while denying others. Because in the end the experiment will fail if you’re not willing to jump in the water.

 

[JosephAW]

Hopefully Tim Cook won't try to make cameos in all the various productions like Stan Lee. Oh wait, he's already in carpool karaoke. Reminds me of Ted Turner trying to be in his movies.
If they want to do a deep fake have Steve Jobs do a bit part. People would watch to see him.

 

[jsmith189]

Who’s criticizing for spending too much?

90% of the first page. Lmao. But I agree though, this isn't the sort of service you can half ass an expect it to do amazingly well. I'm all for them actually making the investment to make good quality content - even if it doesn't last, at least we'll have a bunch of shows that were well made.

 

[cmaier]

I mean, I hope Apple TV+ isn't a bust, but it sure seems like they’re throwing peanuts at an elephant.

That pleases the elephant. I don’t see the problem.
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Hopefully Tim Cook won't try to make cameos in all the various productions like Stan Lee. Oh wait, he's already in carpool karaoke. Reminds me of Ted Turner trying to be in his movies.
If they want to do a deep fake have Steve Jobs do a bit part. People would watch to see him.

EVERYONE on carpool karaoke is making a cameo. Do I need to explain it to you?
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If you have children, you will know this is impossible.....

That’s why i can never cancel Netflix. However I *do* rotate AMC, CBS, etc. depending on when Walking dead, Star Trek, etc. is out. And Hulu comes and goes in our house as well.
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Who’s criticizing for spending too much? You do realize Netflix’s budget is 15 billion for this year. Apple’s is one billion. If anything they need to spend more at least initially. And I’m not advocating 15 billion or trying to be like Netflix.

Considering what Apple has, this is merely Cook pulling a string. Dipping his toe in the water. It doesn’t feel like a full on commitment to having this service. It feels more like an experiment that’s subject to being dropped at their whim.

Heck I’m being very nice justifying the whole thing thinking Apple is going for subs of 3rd party channels. And that it is their true goal as long as they get 30 percent.

I can even see why they would pass on buying say a Time Warmer when it was up for grabs. However it gets harder to make excuses for them when they lose to ATT for JJ Abrams. Whether you like him or not he’s one you want exclusive while denying others. Because in the end the experiment will fail if you’re not willing to jump in the water.

Would be interesting to see what Netflix could do with that money if they didn’t spend so much of it on cheap garbage shows. Really aren’t very many tent poles. They throw a lot of junk on there and hope some of it catches fire.

 

[lkrupp]

I sure hope this new Apple TV+ thing is profitable.

Why? Do you own some AAPL?

 

[cmaier]

Why? Do you own some AAPL?

If he doesn’t own stock he should hope it’s not profitable?

 

[4jasontv]

To me Apple TV+ is a service nobody is asking for. That being said if they make it a free channel in the Apple TV app that’s available for those who own Apple made devices and/or subscribe to other channels in the Apple TV app and they are actually able to produce great content then I can see it as a loss leader to drive Apple device sales.

That would be brilliant, as Roku's 3000 terrible channels* wouldn't be nearly as appealing as getting one quality channel that supplements the content people really want to see.

* I swear one was just security footage at a minor league cricket stadium.

Sadly that doesn't really seem to make sense with their recent drive to put Apple TV on smart TVs.

 

[topmounter]

I can't say that I'm interested in paying for access to even more content that I don't have time to watch. Prime Video is more than enough to occupy my limited viewing time, but I also have Netflix which is paid for through my T-mobile Wireless plan. I let my HBO sub lapse a number of years ago. It will be interesting to see if Apple can produce a show successful enough to justify the money, time and hype.

 

[cmaier]

I can't say that I'm interested in paying for access to even more content that I don't have time to watch. Prime Video is more than enough to occupy my limited viewing time, but I also have Netflix which is paid for through my T-mobile Wireless plan. I let my HBO sub lapse a number of years ago. It will be interesting to see if Apple can produce a show successful enough to justify the money, time and hype.

What hype?

 

[garylapointe]

If you have children, you will know this is impossible.....

It's NOT impossible. They obviously do not NEED Netflix?

They can watch children's stuff on Prime on Netflix off months...

And you don't know what will be there for them on AppleTV+?

 

[TVreporter]

Sounds like so many other movies but just change out the disaster.

I would like to see a TV Series about Humans who leave Earth because we scorched the surface with Global Warming, so we go to another habitable planet and try to make a new start, only to find out that the planet was once occupied by a race similar to our own who had left the planet we now occupy for the exact same reasons we left Earth centuries ago, and they have now returned. It would make a good synopsis

That’s pretty much “The 100”

Purchasing and revamping Netflix to suit their programming needs would have been easier.

It’s getting crowded and what they’ve offered so far hasn’t swayed me one bit

 

[Lalatoon]

Purchasing and revamping Netflix to suit their programming needs would have been easier.

It’s getting crowded and what they’ve offered so far hasn’t swayed me one bit

Well, fortunately for Apple there are lots consumer out there that will get Apple TV+ because it is from Apple .

 

[cmaier]

Well, fortunately for Apple there are lots consumer out there that will get Apple TV+ because it is from Apple .

It’ll be worth it for the Asimov’s Foundation series alone.

 

[Lalatoon]

It’ll be worth it for the Asimov’s Foundation series alone.

Ive read somewhere that Foundation is only 10 episode. I hope for more episodes. I mean 3 books squeezed into 10 episodes is not enough to tell the whole story.

Anyway, my question is with that so much spending for series and movies, is income from Apple subscription enough to pay for those expenses considering that you can only subscribe if you have Apple hardware? I don't think its even possible to use this service using macOS, there is no TV app for macOS yet. Basically they have limited subscriber. I don't think people will start buying iPhones so that they can subscribe to Apple TV+.

Lets say like the Music app they will have 60 million subscriber at launch and lets say the subscription is 10$, so that's $600m. Given that for some series they spend $15m an episode, $600m profit is not enough. I guess subscription is somewhere near $20

 

[beanbaguk]

It's NOT impossible. They obviously do not NEED Netflix?

They can watch children's stuff on Prime on Netflix off months...

And you don't know what will be there for them on AppleTV+?

But why should I switch or be forced to another provider?

And you’re right. They don’t NEED Netflix but it’s incredibly useful. We don’t live in the Victorian ages and while I don’t allow my child to be glued to the telly all day, it’s a useful tool for parenting.

However we digress.

My point is this is yet ANOTHER subscription service and frankly I’m getting peeved off with this. It’s not in consumer interest and dilutes existing content so you ARE forced to sign up to see your favourite programs....and I believe it just promotes piracy.

I’m not saying I pirate but if I were to enjoy my favourite programs I would have to subscribe to Netflix, Prime, HBO and Sky. Combine that cost! It’s a total p*** take to the consumer. And now I’ve got to add Apple TV+ to that???? Come on!

 

[cmaier]

Ive read somewhere that Foundation is only 10 episode. I hope for more episodes. I mean 3 books squeezed into 10 episodes is not enough to tell the whole story.

Anyway, my question is with that so much spending for series and movies, is income from Apple subscription enough to pay for those expenses considering that you can only subscribe if you have Apple hardware? I don't think its even possible to use this service using macOS, there is no TV app for macOS yet. Basically they have limited subscriber. I don't think people will start buying iPhones so that they can subscribe to Apple TV+.

Lets say like the Music app they will have 60 million subscriber at launch and lets say the subscription is 10$, so that's $600m. Given that for some series they spend $15m an episode, $600m profit is not enough. I guess subscription is somewhere near $20

No, the initial order is allegedly 10 episodes. That means just the first “season.”

 

[Peter_M]

Wow. 15 million dollars (!!!) per episode for another run of the mill post-apocalyptic cliched TV-show. Where did all the imagination go? If you gonna make a sci-fi series with that kind of money, at least try to come up with an interesting premise first. The TV-industry today is overrun with lazy and mediocre scriptwriters, who lack the talent and the brains to come up with something truly exciting (but have the right politics). But, I'm sure there'll be lots of "diversity" and "inclusion" in the show. Also, Jason Mamoa is NOT a main protagonist-type actor, even though he ticks off the BAME-box.

Thanks, but no thanks.