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Xbox are 7 years late to this compared to PlayStation.
Been using Remote Play since the start of PS4. Works well half way across the planet even 😊 Using the MacBook Pro for this mostly.
 
It's the reason MS wrote a letter to the courts banning Apple from terminating all of Epic's certificate. The games that are streamed still download executable code for various controllers and configurations. Similar to Stadia and why Google didnt go for iOS.
Afaik, this isn't true at all. XCloud does not download any executable code. It streams controller inputs back to the server for syncing. XCloud is an H.265 stream just like Netflix.

@richard4339 the difference between Remote Play and XCloud is this: Apple has no prohibition against streaming content from your own computer/console (remote play). Apple does have a prohibition against streaming games from a remote server that is not your own (thin client). Apple basically considers XCloud, Stadia, etc. to be thin clients.
 
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Xbox are 7 years late to this compared to PlayStation.
Been using Remote Play since the start of PS4. Works well half way across the planet even 😊 Using the MacBook Pro for this mostly.


never mind then. microsoft should scrap the whole thing.
 
Funny isn't it.
Apple does not need to check a game is acceptable if it's streamed from your console.
But says it needs to check if the same game is acceptable if streamed from a Msoft server.

Funny that..... almost as is there is some financial reason they don't allow this..... LOL ;)
As opposed to the story they are telling us......
It's funny isn't it, when Apple knows the real reason, the Media know the real reason, most tech savy customers know the real reason, but we have to play this game of pretend....
 
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Xbox are 7 years late to this compared to PlayStation.
Been using Remote Play since the start of PS4. Works well half way across the planet even 😊 Using the MacBook Pro for this mostly.

Microsoft released Xbox Play anywhere in 2016 allowing Xbox games to be streamed to Windows 10. Sony's remote play launched in 2006 for the PSP, then in 2016 it expanded to PC and macOS.

The advantage of Xbox remote play over Sony is that it can be used on 4G LTE/5G. Playstation Remote play can only be used on Wi-Fi.
 
Apple is frustrating users more and more. Just stay out of the apps! Sell your hardware and shut up. Pisses me off that I bought a 12" iPad Pro and yet Apple deems it necessary to meddle with what apps I can and can't use. Apple is becoming to look at its users as the enemy.
Why on earth did you buy an iPad then? Apple has had the walled garden approach since they first launched the iPhone and the App Store, well before iPad was even launched, much less 12" iPad Pro. You made a choice to buy a device that you would have known has this approach to apps yet you still chose to buy an iPad and are now complaining. Sell your iPad and go buy an Android device then. I don't mean the rudely.
 
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Good thing you are not a developer because you would be cutting out a significant amount of revenue.
For years small developers that are on the App Store have complained that they make hardly any profit. Many have moved on to greener pastures already 🤷‍♂️

Only big corporations like Tencent with "pay to win" models and are given front window advertisement by Apple make tons of money. That's the perception I've always had from reading their experiences anyways.
 
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lol thanks guys for the credit and using the screenshots I sent. I have only tested it for about 10 minutes (been working most of the day) and so far, it’s definitely a beta. I’m not sure if it was my network, but it was definitely a bit laggy when I was playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater. I’ve been seeing on Reddit that some are saying you can access the console outside of your network, but I have not tested that yet. Certain apps will not work while streaming and you cannot access the store.
 
Theoretically, could a user access xcloud from their own xbox using this app? Essentially, instead of directly connecting to xcloud (a to b), they would be connecting to their xbox which connects to the xcloud (a to b to c) ... might be a way around Apple's specific rules because the offending device would be the user's own console
No, it doesn’t give you “full access” to your console. Certain apps won’t run and you cannot get to the store to buy/download more games.
 
Huh, so funny. So iOS will stream from you local XBox and your local XBox streams from xCloud. Apples head will explode 🤯
Except it doesn’t work that way... at least for now, you can’t access xCloud through an Xbox... if they ever do, it would still be pointless for that setup. You would be potentially running through two different networks. Plus, in the current beta, they block you from accessing certain apps and parts of the console like the store. You can almost be sure that if they do release xCloud for Xbox (One S and One X might benefit from that for next gen), it will be blocked when accessing through an iOS device.
 
For the next year or two with this pandemic, does this kind of technology make the Nintendo Switch a poor choice for a new purchase? I’m looking into either the Switch or one of the next gen consoles (I know, weird comparison), and since their isn’t a lot of outside travelling these days outside of work, you can get significantly better graphics and gameplay gaming on your phone around the house. Leave the PS5 or XB in the TV stand and game on the couch!

I’ve tried the cloud gaming services as well, and they are really hit and miss and usually have a lot of compression and lag.
 
These apps suck, so much latency to be useful even if your devices are hardwired on your network
Found the person who never bothered with the beta.

it worked great. Stadia works great and Microsoft got it down even more. Stop hating.
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So this is just to stream locally from your Xbox right? Non xcloud yet
 
I've streamed games from my Xbox to my PC over WiFi and played them smoothly without any issues. This is a very welcome addition, especially that you can power up your Xbox and download games to it before you even get home.
 
Apple is frustrating users more and more. Just stay out of the apps! Sell your hardware and shut up. Pisses me off that I bought a 12" iPad Pro and yet Apple deems it necessary to meddle with what apps I can and can't use. Apple is becoming to look at its users as the enemy.

Then get an Android tablet. Oh wait, apps suck on there because Google doesn't control the quality.
 
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In fact - If I were a developer, I would attempt to steer clear of making any apps for their platform. The public spat between Epic Games and Apple is another example. Both are in the wrong but I would tend to agree with Epic since their stance was to save users money.

In order to create a health app store, Apple needs control.

Good luck developing for an unhealthy platform.
 
What is the latency?


the time from which something happens to the time you see it or hear it. example, you press A to jump, character on screen jumps 100ms later. latency can be introduced at different points, like communication to the device from the controller to the console/computer/server; the tv/screen can introduce latency to actually display it; if on a server the server introduces latency to receive input and send back the rendered image; etc
 
In fact - If I were a developer, I would attempt to steer clear of making any apps for their platform. The public spat between Epic Games and Apple is another example. Both are in the wrong but I would tend to agree with Epic since their stance was to save users money.

if Apple were to remove the 30% Epic would still charge you the exact same amount of money. Epic couldnt care less about you or any of its other users.

What limits what Epic charges is what people are willing to pay, and that would not change if Epic’s costs went down. And why should it? Epic is a business, not a charity.

Want proof? Epic netted over $4 billion last year.
 
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Huh, so funny. So iOS will stream from you local XBox and your local XBox streams from xCloud. Apples head will explode 🤯
You don’t stream from xcloud on your local Xbox, the xbox downloads, installs and plays the game, then streams to your device.
 
Funny isn't it.
Apple does not need to check a game is acceptable if it's streamed from your console.
But says it needs to check if the same game is acceptable if streamed from a Msoft server.

Funny that..... almost as is there is some financial reason they don't allow this..... LOL ;)
As opposed to the story they are telling us......
It's funny isn't it, when Apple knows the real reason, the Media know the real reason, most tech savy customers know the real reason, but we have to play this game of pretend....

It is different because it is your content/library. Where as Game Streaming from Microsoft servers can add/remove games at any time. And rules need to be fair for any developer, not just unique to Microsoft because they are Microsoft. I can certainly understand their situation as this could lead to apps that steam other apps just to bypass Apple's review process. If it is even a semi-opened hole in the iOS walled garden, hackers will be ALL OVER IT.

Just like if you built a website that is only intended to be used for employees of the company. Do you prevent SQL injection? But you trust all the employees! Yes, you should still assume some malicious input could be entered in the text boxes. Maybe the employee was just fired and wants to cause damage.

You want to make sure your environment is locked down. I can see Apple's position here as it could lead to hacker streaming apps. Unless people DO want Apple to play favorites here.
 
I wonder if this is Apple testing the water before unleashing a really powerful ATV gaming monster ??

One can only hope I guess
 
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