[doublepost=1501861366][/doublepost]I imagine the plant will expand in capability going forward - diversifying Apple's manufacturing. Much like China, India has the population to staff plants like this at low cost. Something America for example can not.
I'd be stunned if this is just going to be a small scale SE only plant for the long term.
Gotta say, the keeping the existing design is why we have room for such a relatively big battery and awesome battery life. Keep it, so battery life gets even better again...otherwise they'll make it thin and we'll go down to 4.7 inch battery life or worse....
I want an updated iPhone SE. It should not be treated like a second class citizen or simply a budget phone. Why can't Apple seem to understand there are plenty of us who buy the SE because we don't belong to the phablet craze? We want an updated phone with updated capabilities in the same form factor. I'm not super price sensitive but I don't want large phones. The SE has done well enough, from all appearances, to be treated properly and not as simply a budget phone.
I somewhat agree, but I think a redesign would give it independence in the minds of consumers and a new lease of life, both increasing sales.
I think they might feel they need to in order to remove the headphone jack, otherwise the offering would be a phone on the same level as the 7/7s, but with a headphone jack.
The next SE must have 3D Touch. It's an important feature of iOS 11.
3D Touch is a hardware feature, not a software feature that would need to be included in an iOS update.
And then neutered it somewhat.They understand it, it's the reason for which they launched the SE in the first place.
Congrats on completely missing or ignoring their point.
They were saying that the next SE should have 3D Touch because iOS 11 really needs the device to have it to work well.
Your sarcasm is unnecessary to contribute to the discussion. It wasn't ignored, I addressed the way I interpreted that posters comment. Furthermore, 3D Touch doesn't "need" iOS 11 to work well, that's completely irrevelant, being one is a hardware feature and iOS 11 is software related.
The side bezels specifically are ever-so-slightly smaller on an iPhone 7 compared to current SE's."Mirroring the lessened bezels on the iPhone 7"
Umm.. what lessened bezels on the iPhone 7?
3D Touch will not be making it to the SE until the very last possible year. It's one of their key differentiating features. It's possible with the change from the 8 (the 7S and 7S+ will now be secondary non-flag ship devices) that apple tries to make all features below the iPhone 8, mainstream, but apple tends to like dragging things out to milk features and product lines - therefore I would say at least another year or two until 3D touch reaches the bottom tier SE device.
And you missed my point also.
We are saying that iOS 11 has many features that are dependant on 3D Touch, therefore a new SE should have 3D Touch or it will not be able to use many new features of iOS.
And you missed my point also.
We are saying that iOS 11 has many features that are dependant on 3D Touch, therefore a new SE should have 3D Touch or it will not be able to use many new features of iOS.
I think it's just a misunderstanding and now he's feeling a little miffed at your tone is all and so is defensive about his misread.
To the point itself, I think it's a good one: I've flirted with getting an SE, but if a new model comes out and doesn't have 3D Touch, I may have to pass on it, especially if iOS 11 leverages 3D Touch even more.
Even in iOS 10, I've already become so used to 3D Touch that I find myself fumbling when I use my iPad: sometimes I'm pressing in on a notification and wondering why it isn't doing anything....
Funny thing is, I hated it and disabled it when it was first introduced.![]()
Furthermore, to keep the iPhone SE affordable, 3D Touch would increase likely the price point. The iPhone SE is meant to be is entry-level iPhone, and incorporating that hardware feature would further the overall cost.
And you missed my point also.
We are saying that iOS 11 has many features that are dependant on 3D Touch, therefore a new SE should have 3D Touch or it will not be able to use many new features of iOS.
I disagree with that. It's not a "gee whiz" feature anymore. It's needed to reach core functionality of iOS 11. It's not like a faster processor or more storage space. Anyway, two years after introducing it, and on a smaller screen, it really shouldn't be that difficult or expensive to add it to the SE.
I would agree that it was originally envisioned as a entry-level, low-cost, option, but that many many people are buying them because they prefer the form factor and design of the SE. And if Apple hasn't realized that yet, or ignores it, they are leaving lots of money on the table by artificially gimping it.
I somewhat agree, but I think a redesign would give it independence in the minds of consumers and a new lease of life, both increasing sales.
I think they might feel they need to in order to remove the headphone jack, otherwise the offering would be a phone on the same level as the 7/7s, but with a headphone jack.
To me whether 3D touch hardware is present or not is irrelevant to me. The first thing I would do when I setup iPhone is disable 3D Touch. Very annoying.