zchrykng
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If you press harder on the screen some things have secondary functions you can access. The biggest thing is if you push hard on the keyboard you can use it as a trackpad for moving your text insert point around.
Updated iPhone SE Rumored for Early 2018 Launch
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If you press harder on the screen some things have secondary functions you can access. The biggest thing is if you push hard on the keyboard you can use it as a trackpad for moving your text insert point around.
ksnell
macrumors 6502a
Unfortunately for us, this phone is being made generally for boosting market share in India which is why it is destined to be a lower cost option.
Aside from the "Cost cutting" scenario, we don't know the physical limitations of a 4 inch display if 3D Touch is possible. I don't see too many people questioning this, as this very well could be a possibility of why it may not be included in the future SE.
Amazing Iceman
macrumors 603
Come back! Join the Force, Master Yoda! What you thought was R2D2 was in reality a green trashcan.
This. If there was one thing Apple would upgrade, a higher resolution display would be a dramatic improvement. I do believe Apple will at least incrementally improve it over its current 1136-by-640-pixel resolution.
sracer
macrumors G4
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying...
The SE already has an independence. It is separate and distinct from the iPhone 6, 6+, 7, etc. The distinction just happens to be an older design. The SE also enjoys the highest customer satisfaction of ANY smartphone... and the only iPhone with a higher satisfaction than some Samsung phones. (according to a survey posted on MR a few months back)
Obviously those of us who are fans of the current SE were fine breaking away from the pack. But I think the popularity of the SE has caused others who had previously dismissed (or rejected) the concept of the SE to have softened a bit and have come around to their own independence of sorts... looking for an SE model for the iPhone 6/7 set.
In that regard, I'm all for it! (provided that the current SE is updated and remains available) Choice for customers is a good thing.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
I suppose it's possible, though I don't see why that would be an issue. With all of the things Apple has achieved I'd be shocked if this was their limiting factor. Also, doesn't the Apple watch have the force touch feature anyway? Whilst not exactly the same (technology wise), it would give the end user a damn near identical experience.
The Apple Watch uses force touch like you indicated, which is a layer that uses independent sensors to recognize between a touch and a firm press, invoking different actions similar to 3D Touch. But that also incorporates an OLED display, which is something else to factor.
Then if Apple was not to include 3D Touch in a future iPhone SE, then it goes back to my original point of being a cost related factor to retain the entry level price point.
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ActionableMango
macrumors G3
I'm surprised to see that so many people rely on 3D Touch.
I see so much potential in the feature and I really want to like it, but 95% of my apps do nothing other than use it as a way to share the app with my friends. I have so many apps where there are so many obvious uses for 3D Touch, so I try it out... but instead of a delightful result it is almost always a lacking disappointment.
For the 2 or 3 apps where it is implemented and I actually find the feature useful, the absence of 3D Touch on iPad makes for an inconsistent UI experience and so I end up not using it on either device.
If it's really essential to iOS 11, then Apple needs to include it on all iOS devices and encourage developers to implement it. Yes, iPads, and yes the SE. Same as TouchID, it should be across the board.
ignatius345
macrumors G3
I'm stlll rocking the battery case and Apple leather case I bought for my iPhone 5S, so I'm pretty happy with the design staying the same so far. I also love the nice round, easy-to-feel volume buttons and the top placement of the power button.
I also fear they'll pull the headphone jack just to be "consistent" with the other iPhones.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
I guess we will see. I'd be incredibly surprised to see them release another phone without it. Anything is possible, I always say.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
iOS 11, from what I've seen, has users relying much more on the feature than ever before. I don't rely on it, per se, but it does make day to day tasks easier. I don't think I've loaded the target cartwheel app to scan or load the barcode "normally" since tbwas introuced. In also constantly using it to move the cursor and hilight when typing. Again, don't need it for either of those examples. But it makes things easier. I suppose it's a bit like the early introduction to the mouse in a word editor. It absolutely wasn't necessary. But it made selecting and moving and deleting things that much more elegant.
stoopkidblues
macrumors 6502
I’m still skeptical on a 7S/S+, which makes me believe the SE would be released this year as well. Original rumors suggested 3 new phones. I’m thinking an iPhone Pro (8), iPhone (7 update) and iPhone Mini (SE update), much in line with their iPad lineup (and at this point the only thing that makes sense marketing wise in regards to the naming of the devices).
Like some members mentioned earlier, SE doesn’t mean budget (like 5C didn’t mean cheap lol) so it’s weird if you want to keep that market to also short them maybe not all, but most of the latest features. I get that it won’t be comparable to the flagship but if you don’t even get close what’s the point of creating one?
I think 3D Touch could be included in them all because it’s now not the differentiating selling point like how Touch ID was adopted into the entire iPad lineup. I could even see the pricing going to around $449-$549 (since we’re to believe the “8” will go above $1000). That keeps the middle tier, 7S/S+, still within the $649/$749 the 7 is sold for now.
Really the only problem I could see with this is having to manufacture two sizes for both the 7S and 8, so I think (again like the iPads) that the middle iPhone would just be one size (like the iPad vs. the iPad Pro).
Problem solved?
Like some members mentioned earlier, SE doesn’t mean budget (like 5C didn’t mean cheap lol) so it’s weird if you want to keep that market to also short them maybe not all, but most of the latest features. I get that it won’t be comparable to the flagship but if you don’t even get close what’s the point of creating one?
I think 3D Touch could be included in them all because it’s now not the differentiating selling point like how Touch ID was adopted into the entire iPad lineup. I could even see the pricing going to around $449-$549 (since we’re to believe the “8” will go above $1000). That keeps the middle tier, 7S/S+, still within the $649/$749 the 7 is sold for now.
Really the only problem I could see with this is having to manufacture two sizes for both the 7S and 8, so I think (again like the iPads) that the middle iPhone would just be one size (like the iPad vs. the iPad Pro).
Problem solved?
All I meant was that it's separate from the 5/5S in design, so instantly to anybody seeing someone with it, it will seem like the SE, or if they don't know what it is, it would intrigue them as it'll be a small iPhone 7(S). For us, the difference is obvious as soon as we see the matte chamfered edges. And a new design always helps sales.
I'm not saying it should be done, but it is more than likely in a new iPhone design, especially one of this size. It is a shame, although I don't understand how the physical home button (vs taptic) is a selling point? I wouldn't say that it is a big selling point at all.
If Apple wants to provide a low cost option, I'm ok with it. Just don't assume that because I like the form factor that I like it because that is all I can afford.
This is the big question. I think it would be a Poor reflection of Apple if they retained the 3.5 Jack, but then the iPhone 7 and future iPhones won't include it. It would be a poor business practice to have one model have the Jack. Apple's focus is on the Airpods and they made that clear in September 2016 with Bluetooth expanding.
My thinking is Apple will not include the Jack on the updated SE. I would like to see it retained, but in all likeliness, it won't return for the future iPhone SE and uniformity across the iPhone line is more consistent as it should be with Apple.
