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Updated iPhone SE Rumored for Early 2018 Launch
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Oh yes, please. An upgraded SE would be my next iPhone; though I'd wait until after I replace my iMac to buy it.
How could you possibly think that Apple treats its iPhone SE as a budget phone?
It’s very simple, there’s only so much you can do in the small form factor of the SE. it’s far from budget with what’s inside in that form factor!
Stop playing the victim
They should never have had 'courage' to create 3D Touch. It's one of their biggest mistakes. The next biggest is the stupid fake menu button. I used to have no problem recommending iPhone to even elderly people. No more. They simply can't use the touch screen if they have to be able to use various levels of pressure doing things they never want the phone to do. Neither do I. I've yet to find a single good reason to justify the existence of 3D Touch.
What comes to the new SE, I really do hope they don't make it bigger - and that they don't have the courage to make it even thinner and screw up the battery life. I've had to move to SE to be able to use iPhone still. I'm soon running out of options.
I believe that by “recycling” iPhone 5-5S design into SE, Cook actually wanted to make more money by offering a cheaper entry into the Apple system, with its App Store, Music, etc.
just give me the SE in the iPhone 4 size. Smaller the better.
The physical home button with the finger print scanner is a super fragile piece of tech and should go away from all the iPhones asap. They just go all clicky & wiggly too soon. If Apple managed to replace it with iPhone 7 style “button area”, it would be great.
With the new SE I just want:
• Either an A10 or A11 processor
• Higher contrast screen
• Touch ID 2
• Better front facing camera
Ever since buying the 6 I've wanted to go back to the 5 in size, but haven't ever matched up with the refresh in the product, I'm not sure if I want to stick with this phone for another half year waiting for a hypothetical iPhone SE update. (I replaced the screen myself with an ifixit one and the quality is junk compared to the old one so I really want to upgrade)
• Either an A10 or A11 processor
• Higher contrast screen
• Touch ID 2
• Better front facing camera
Ever since buying the 6 I've wanted to go back to the 5 in size, but haven't ever matched up with the refresh in the product, I'm not sure if I want to stick with this phone for another half year waiting for a hypothetical iPhone SE update. (I replaced the screen myself with an ifixit one and the quality is junk compared to the old one so I really want to upgrade)
Not necessarily. As hardware gets incorporated in other phones, the large volumes may drive down the costs to include that hardware, while the cost of including older hardware that aren't as frequently produced can go up (or don't decline). So it may well be possilbe to add 3D touch without a significant cost increase (not to mention, the cost of other components are going down, which is how Apple introduces new models at the same price point each year).
Love my SE. I'm not the type to buy a new phone every generation, so I'd definitely pass on a 2018 model, but I'll catch you guys in 2020 for sure.
But I also factor in the situation that Apple developed this iPhone as an entry level market product being affordable that would not incorporate some of the latest hardware specifications from the other models and for India's market. Also, if Apple wanted the iPhone SE to have 3D Touch, they easily could have done so if the device was capable of incorporating that technology.
Either way you look at the iPhone SE, it was never intended to have the latest specifications from the other iPhone models, which I suspect the next iteration of the iPhone SE will also lack certain functionalities retain a similar price point.
Wait, you're ruining my stereotype that SE owners are stuck in the past!
As a current iPhone 4 user, I resemble these remarks.
I'd be highly interested in a new iPhone SE, having completely skipped six, almost seven generations of iPhone.
Since the demise of the Nano and Shuffle, I guess once I upgrade, my iPhone 4 will become a not so skinny 8GB "iPod Touch". I can live with that.
I'm not really interested in the SE but my daughter will be thrilled. She loves the small form factor.
I would definitely consider an upgrade next year if the form factor remains the same but the internals/camera/display got improvements.
The only slight downer for the SE for me was the lack of a 128GB option, which of course was remedied since, but that wasn't enough on its own for me to buy another one.
I still want the headphone jack. I still don't care at all about 3D Touch. I still want a flush camera. I still don't like the rounded edges and humungous sizes of the 6/7 models.
The SE is a classic external design that is internally powerful enough to stay current - that is, to me the essential recipe for its success. If I was Apple I'd be wary about changing that recipe too much for no good reason. Also differentiation from the higher-priced larger models is good for Apple too.
If they turned it into a mini budget iPhone 7 in terms of form factor (a slippery soap bar with no headphone socket), I'd lose a lot of interest, and I don't actually know what my next phone would be.
The only slight downer for the SE for me was the lack of a 128GB option, which of course was remedied since, but that wasn't enough on its own for me to buy another one.
I still want the headphone jack. I still don't care at all about 3D Touch. I still want a flush camera. I still don't like the rounded edges and humungous sizes of the 6/7 models.
The SE is a classic external design that is internally powerful enough to stay current - that is, to me the essential recipe for its success. If I was Apple I'd be wary about changing that recipe too much for no good reason. Also differentiation from the higher-priced larger models is good for Apple too.
If they turned it into a mini budget iPhone 7 in terms of form factor (a slippery soap bar with no headphone socket), I'd lose a lot of interest, and I don't actually know what my next phone would be.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who appreciates the form factor of the SE. That's why I have one! Call me "Apple Old-Fashioned", but I HATE the camera bump on the 6, 6S, and 7 models. Oddly, I'd probably have stuck with one of the newer form-factors if they had just made the devices a slight bit bigger, adding some battery so as to eliminate the stupid bump. I just feel like the bump is a blatant admission that "well, we got everything else to fit in the case, but we failed with the camera, so to get this model out as expediently as possible, we'll just let it stick out a little bit".
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I used to say I "downgraded" from the iPhone 7, but now I consider it an upgrade. Perspective....
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I used to say I "downgraded" from the iPhone 7, but now I consider it an upgrade. Perspective....
It won't be a "key feature" anymore. It's been around a couple years now. Why have to tweak latest iOS to not use that feature on certain models? It should have it in my opinion.
Until they introduce the next "key feature" it will continue to be the latest enhancement in iPhones. Well they have been tweaking the software for 3D touch, so that's definitely something that's been happening.
I think it comes down to product differentiation. Like I said, that's pretty much the only way to differentiate the different lines right now, aside from screen size and casing.
3D touch
Water resistance
OIS
256 GB+
Laminated screen
Inductive charging
They're all important. I want it all equally urgently!
And someday somehow someserious optical zoom and low light photos/videos. And maybe 3D cameras for this AR business.
But gotta keep that SE form factor. Priority #1. As much as I want all these other features, the only feature that frustrates me to no end to not have is one-handed usability. I know this because I tried an iPhone 6s+ for 3 months and kept having dreams about my old 5s.
Water resistance
OIS
256 GB+
Laminated screen
Inductive charging
They're all important. I want it all equally urgently!
And someday somehow someserious optical zoom and low light photos/videos. And maybe 3D cameras for this AR business.
But gotta keep that SE form factor. Priority #1. As much as I want all these other features, the only feature that frustrates me to no end to not have is one-handed usability. I know this because I tried an iPhone 6s+ for 3 months and kept having dreams about my old 5s.
That's simply not true... When the SE was release half a year after the 6S it carried the SoC of the 6S. That said, considering the lower screen resolution, the SE outperformed the flagship in everything GPU/UI related. IIRC if even beats the iPhone 7 in some tests...
OK, it doesn't have a barometer and 3D touch. Although, integrating the latter would have required a completely new designed Screen Assembly.
No matter what Apple releases next year, the SE as currently sold is hard to beat. 300 bucks for an iPhone which basically delivers something between 6S and 7 performance may not result in the "old" SE being replaced. Apple will sell the new SE for 450+at launch which doesn't really put it in direct competition with the old SE. And 150 bucks just for 3D touch and an iphone 8 SoC (if we are lucky) may not be worth that.
Yes, it's a good value. Yes, the SOC and RAM is good. By lower spec I mean front facing cam, display (not just lower res, but it's less vibrant than 6, 6S, or 7), and those small internal bits you mentioned. Not too much sacrifice in the package, which is why I also think it's a great phone. I was very surprised they didn't put 1GB RAM at release.
Agree. Those features would be ok and No.New.Design. This is optimal - even at its age.
(Joni is busy with trees anyway and might get overworked...)
