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Updated MacBook Pros, iPads, and Mac Pro All Reportedly Expected by Mid-November
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I'm going to disagree (sort of). We already know from the Apple site that it's a single core machine and it will have "up to 12 cores of processing power." We also know that on September 27th, Geekbench reported scores from what they claimed were a legitimate 8 core machine. The current Mac Pro has a 4 core base with a 6 and 12 core upgrade.
The fact that the iMac is a quad core machine I think Apple will want to put more perceived separation between the two desktops. I think at a minimum they'll offer a six core base with an 8 and 12 core upgrade. What's odd about 6, 8 and 12 core line-up is that while we've seen some scores and log files show up for 8 and 12 core machines, we've seen nothing for a six core variant. The other interesting thing to note is that we've heard absolutely nothing about a Mac Pro Server version...
I'm planning to get a new Mac Pro. I only won't do it if the price hike over the old generation is ridiculous. As has been stated elsewhere, it's really difficult to predict prices because everything - right down to assembly - is different from previous models.
My gut feeling on this latest rumour after a quick glance at the calendar and a count up of how long it is until November 15 was to be annoyed. I was hoping the October 22 gig would announce immediate Mac Pro availability.
Then I reminded myself that I've been waiting years (yes YEARS!) for this update so another month really shouldn't be such a big hassle. My Mac Pro 1,1 should last another few weeks.
My gut feeling on this latest rumour after a quick glance at the calendar and a count up of how long it is until November 15 was to be annoyed. I was hoping the October 22 gig would announce immediate Mac Pro availability.
Then I reminded myself that I've been waiting years (yes YEARS!) for this update so another month really shouldn't be such a big hassle. My Mac Pro 1,1 should last another few weeks.
Obviously. Do you ever comment anything other than the obvious? It seems you always rush to post whatever comment as long as you're first.
battery life, PCIe connection for SSD, Intel Iris Pro integrated graphics which means pretty much unless you are a gamer you can go with integrated graphics which feeds back into more battery life, I think they give off less heat at same Ghz so that leads to less heat from the machine and the components not getting baked as much which means the machine may last longer.
The MacBook Pro update is way too late. Unless they have a completely redesigned laptop, or some revolutionary new features, I'm done with them.
At the very least, apple needs to announce these new laptops. I've been needing to replace my aging MacBook Pro but I'm not going to wait for apple to just announce a haswell refresh.
At the very least, apple needs to announce these new laptops. I've been needing to replace my aging MacBook Pro but I'm not going to wait for apple to just announce a haswell refresh.
How can they release it (Mac Pro) 11/15 if they are only hiring at Flextronics now? (See story posted immediately above this one). Even for Apple this seems like a reach.
Let's hope, though, I've been waiting a long time for this!
Let's hope, though, I've been waiting a long time for this!
Many potential Mac Pro customers have little use for more than 4 cores, but have a lot of use for the fastest clock speed possible. The 4-core option gives this and also lets Apple start at a lower price. From a customer perspective a 4 core option is a definite want. Nearly all Mac Pros sold were 4 core models over the past few years too.
It's kind of sickening how much money this event is going to make me spend, the best case scenario is "way too much" money and the worst case scenario is "WTF is wrong with you!?!?!?!" money
I really wish Apple would go back to spacing this stuff out through out of the year.
I agree but can you imagine it if they threw in a really great display refresh as well?
If it's a 4K I'll be eating nothing but potatoes for the next year.
My 2010 MacBook is waaaay overdue for a replacement. I see one in the near future.
Same here. I'm still using my white 13in Macbook with an SSD and replaced the optical drive with HDD.
Looking forward to this last quarter of the year. So many new gadgets coming out.
You have several flawed notions going here.
1. It is single CPU package ( not core). The Xeon E5 models that are designed for single package systems are the E5 1600 series. Apple is probably going with the newest ones so that E5 1600 v2 ( "Ivy Bridge).
Those models come in 4-6 core configurations.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/..._E5-1600_v2_and_E5-2600_v2_CPUs_launched.html
Apple will use some E5 2600 v2 processor packages also ( it is only way to 12 cores) but those will be far, far, far above the entry level configuration price points. Apples first two configurations in 2009-2012 used around $300-600 processors. If aiming at the same price points they likely still use exactly that price range for components in this 2013 Mac Pro.
2. The E5 1680v2 that "leaked" in benchmarks isn't just north of $1,000, it is pretty close to $2k ( $1723).
http://ark.intel.com/products/77912/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1680-v2-25M-Cache-3_00-GHz
By the time Apple adds their 30% mark-up that will be about $2,239. That is just for the CPU package itself! The completed system with RAM, 2 GPUs , etc is likely in the $4-5K range for that configuration.
There are more to these systems than just CPU cores. The Mac Pro will have two GPUs (likely midrange and fully clocked ). The iMac typically has mobile GPU and even top end GPU is a significantly underclocked desktop GPU. The Mac Pro has 6 Thunderbolt v2 sockets. The iMac 2 "last generation" Thunderbolt sockets. The Mac Pro has SSD by default. The iMac nominally has a HDD. The Mac Pro's E5 has twice as much memory bandwidth (and twice as many memory channels ). The iMac has two.
On "horsepower" , multiple core, workloads the 4 core E5 1620 v2 will be highly competitive with anything the iMac can bring to the table. It is only on single core drag racing benchmarks/apps that there will be an edge for the top end iMac BTO option.
In short, they are differentiated.
13" rMBP is basically garbage with HD4000 graphics. (IMO of course). A haswell graphics bump is much needed. And better battery will be awesome.
if that is true then im selling my 15" and getting 17". Apple got me upset about the 17" as that was the only machine I was comfortable with. The 15" rmbp is a beast in terms of perfomance but the screen bothers me every day
iPad in Nov? That is far away....I thought iPads will be available for shipment immediately after 22nd Oct announcements. I already sold my iPad 3.
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I still using my 2008 first aluminum Macbook. Going great and serves my needs. Only battery capacity has fallen to 59%.
I rarely use it anyway when I have iPad for most of my daily tasks.
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I still using my 2008 first aluminum Macbook. Going great and serves my needs. Only battery capacity has fallen to 59%.
I rarely use it anyway when I have iPad for most of my daily tasks.
You may be right, but I don't think that just because we haven't seen geekbench scores doesn't mean it won't be an option. However, I was arguing more that an 8-core variant wouldn't come in at that $2500 price point most are hoping for. I know we can't do a straight up comparison, but just look at what a company like Boxx offers for their thunderbolt 2 workstation. Quad-core, single k600 GPU, 4GB RAM, and a 500gb non-SSD for $3300.
I am waiting for a
- 13" with a quad core CPU and 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD
- Aperture X
- iWork X
- iPad 5 w/ 64GB RAM
Thats all. Apple - please introduce that stuff next week Tuesday !!!
- 13" with a quad core CPU and 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD
- Aperture X
- iWork X
- iPad 5 w/ 64GB RAM
Thats all. Apple - please introduce that stuff next week Tuesday !!!
the same prices for the mac pro as the current mac pros will be applied , obviously.
I am waiting so long for a macbook pro, and i'm only surviving on an ipad and iphone, I start to wonder if I NEED a macbook pro haha.
On the other hand, the screen and bezel of the macbook air I bought was so annoying and below expectations, that I returned the macbook air.
I don't need a retina, but the bezel of the mba is big enough to put post it's on it, if these post its don't get lost between the low pixel density <_<.
I am waiting so long for a macbook pro, and i'm only surviving on an ipad and iphone, I start to wonder if I NEED a macbook pro haha.
On the other hand, the screen and bezel of the macbook air I bought was so annoying and below expectations, that I returned the macbook air.
I don't need a retina, but the bezel of the mba is big enough to put post it's on it, if these post its don't get lost between the low pixel density <_<.
Most likely scenario:
10/22 - Run a big new ad for Mac Pro (no more tech or price details). Lots of gushing about how cool it is going to be (but please keep waiting).
11/15 - Mac Pro pops up for Pre Orders on Apple Store (all tech and price details finally available)
12/20 - Mac Pro actual availability (limited supplies only).
2/1 - Wait down to reasonable time (earlier if too expensive)
Look!!! Its a glacier!!! Its a turtle!!! Its a snail!! ... NO!!! ... IT'S A NEW APPLE PRODUCT!!!
It is Xeon E5 v2 processors. All the Xeons have an "Ex" in the name.
https://communities.intel.com/commu...n-processor-numbering-more-than-just-a-number
Just throwing 'E' out there without the product line number only clouds the description. If there is an "Xeon" present there is an 'E'. E what brings clarification not redundancy.
"Ivy Bridge E" codename tag isn't even Xeon. It is the core i7-49xx range of processors. ( a derivative of the E5 1600 implementations but diferent product name and enabled functionality. )