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Mistakes happen. Everyone makes them including me. I love reading how people feel they are owed something free. Or want a free phone or free case or want someone fired.

It is a phone. Not a kidney. Have you never made a mistake at work before. If you make a mistake does your company Automatically give away free stuff ? Probably not. Is it nice that Apple will offer something for your troubles? Absolutely. Is it nice that most of the time Apple will attempt to make things right with the customer? Absolutely and that is part of the reason most of us buy their products.

But I think that also leads to people losing their minds over not getting a phone.

Even if the store sold the OPs phone to someone else why does he deserve a free phone. Answer is he doesn't. If I were the manager I would offer a free case or something for it honoring the reservation and making him waste his time but they do not have to.

In this day and age people really need to learn patience and humility. Mistakes happen. No one is perfect. Does it suck when the mistake happens to you yes. I have been on the losing end of my share of things but truth is it happens and happens to everyone at one point or another. Just move on. It ok

Making a reservation two weeks ahead, trusting the system to work, driving over after says its here and then having the process fail is certainly a compensation situation. Free phone is a stupid expectation bit 10% off, or a case or free applecare seems very reasonable.

In fact, Apple owes every person whose application was rejected for their payment plan some form of compensation. That's an even worse situation. Removing the the hard credit report inquiry is a start.
 
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Normal people make mistakes and mistakes do happen, But not Apple! The way Apple hires and hand picks employees there should be absolutely NO mistakes period! lol
If the people on here moan about boo hoo you didn't get your phone, put yourself in their shoes you would do the exact same thing, when you expect something and it doesn't go your way, especially if you pre ordered and having the anticipation of knowing that your phone will be there at the store waiting for you when the time comes. I bet 99.9% of the people on here will do exactly the same.
 
MY philosophy with Apple is to EXCEED customer expectations.

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My philosophy with Apple is to manage customer expectations

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It's not the same company with Steve gone.
 
Maybe not the same company, but probably filled with happier, less-stressed employees.

Mind you, this issue has nothing to do with Tim Cook.

It has everything to do with Tim Cook. Steve Jobs drove employees to excellence, and yes, he was a stern taskmaster and a perhaps somewhat of a tyrant, especially early in his career. But that's what it takes to generate the kind of company Apple was. It takes extreme heat and pressure to produce diamonds.

Tim Cook will have less stressed employees defaulting to mediocrity. woo hoo :rolleyes:
 
This happened to me yesterday. I reserved a phone online. Go in and my phone is gone. No real explanation, either glitch or theift and a we'll call you when we get one...

I reserved another at a different Apple Store this morning, we'll see...
 
It has everything to do with Tim Cook. Steve Jobs drove employees to excellence, and yes, he was a stern taskmaster and a perhaps somewhat of a tyrant, especially early in his career. But that's what it takes to generate the kind of company Apple was. It takes extreme heat and pressure to produce diamonds.

Tim Cook will have less stressed employees defaulting to mediocrity. woo hoo :rolleyes:

"Happy employees are good employees"
 
"Happy employees are good employees"

So are you saying that under Steve Jobs employees were unhappy? All the great products produced under Steve Jobs happened because the employees were unhappy? Is that what you're saying?

Are you saying that they weren't there because it was an exciting and challenging place to work? A workplace where they weren't driven to do their best?
 
OMFG

It happens. A busy, busy, busy day.

They will take care of you.

Get over it.

Shame on you.

Time out.

Make sure you remember this when something goes wrong for you.

Made a scene? What are you, five years old? It's a goddamn phone for crying out loud.

Can I have yours then?
 
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So are you saying that under Steve Jobs employees were unhappy? All the great products produced under Steve Jobs happened because the employees were unhappy? Is that what you're saying?

Are you saying that they weren't there because it was an exciting and challenging place to work? A workplace where they weren't driven to do their best?

Are you saying there was never a mistake in any way shape or form by any employee under Steve Jobs?
 
Are you saying there was never a mistake in any way shape or form by any employee under Steve Jobs?

What I'm saying is that Steve Jobs had a talent for driving employees toward excellence.

It doesn't mean he was perfect, it doesn't mean he didn't make mistakes, it doesn't mean he wasn't a flawed human being.
 
What I'm saying is that Steve Jobs had a talent for driving employees toward excellence.

It doesn't mean he was perfect, it doesn't mean he didn't make mistakes, it doesn't mean he wasn't a flawed human being.

In other words....This mistake could quite easily have happened under Steve Jobs and probably would have. Mistakes happen, blaming the CEO for one iPhone not being picked up is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I have read on this forum.
 
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So are you saying that under Steve Jobs employees were unhappy? All the great products produced under Steve Jobs happened because the employees were unhappy? Is that what you're saying?

Are you saying that they weren't there because it was an exciting and challenging place to work? A workplace where they weren't driven to do their best?

If the employees are happy with the rewards, then the stress and challenges are well merited.
 
What happened to the OP is the same thing as if he ordered it to be delivered on launch day then got an email from Apple saying, "Sorry we shipped your phone to someone else, we'll get you one as soon as we can". Reserved phones are not supposed to be used as available stock, period. That store needs new management, simple as that.
 
Mistakes happen. Everyone makes them including me. I love reading how people feel they are owed something free. Or want a free phone or free case or want someone fired.

It is a phone. Not a kidney. Have you never made a mistake at work before. If you make a mistake does your company Automatically give away free stuff ? Probably not. Is it nice that Apple will offer something for your troubles? Absolutely. Is it nice that most of the time Apple will attempt to make things right with the customer? Absolutely and that is part of the reason most of us buy their products.

But I think that also leads to people losing their minds over not getting a phone.

Even if the store sold the OPs phone to someone else why does he deserve a free phone. Answer is he doesn't. If I were the manager I would offer a free case or something for it honoring the reservation and making him waste his time but they do not have to.

In this day and age people really need to learn patience and humility. Mistakes happen. No one is perfect. Does it suck when the mistake happens to you yes. I have been on the losing end of my share of things but truth is it happens and happens to everyone at one point or another. Just move on. It ok

I agree 100%.

People can be so disgusting when it comes to something/someone making a mistake.

I have been in situations where WORSE has happened, and every.single.time I was rewarded ten fold by maintaining HUMILITY and COMPASSION (two words people throw out the window when the unexpected of life happens).

Who knows what the hell could have happened - but ALWAYS look at the positive side: It could have been a defected phone that was not placed in your hands by fate, a new employee could have made an honest mistake, if you were understanding and compassionate; they could have given you an upgraded spec phone, exc. There are an array of possibilities! but people will complain and have the WORST attitude on every outcome.

Now, i'm not saying it is right - but the reaction is wrong. +, this is not an emergency.

I hope your corporate complaint gave you peace of mind.
 
While many people really hate reading the line "this wouldn't have happened under Steve" I think Four oF NINE sort of has a point. I have no personal axe to grind since I came to Apple late in the day, and the first WWDC Keynote I saw was Steve's last, so all I have are anecdotes and my experiences as the company transitioned from Jobs to Cook.

I have noticed a change in Customer Service from Apple as we've moved further into the Tim Cook era. As we've moved from a man with a vision approach to a man who knows how to manage a supply chain approach. There seems to be much more emphasis now on making that extra dollar than keeping that one extra person happy. Now, is that Tim, Wall Street press, or the share holders who after years of badgering now get dividends on their stock? We'll probably never know.

Genius Bar appointments seem harder to get, there seems to be less flexibility or discretion in swapping out equipment and more emphasis on getting us to either fork out even more of our money for AppleCare or pay Out of Warranty repair costs - which are escalating all the time even though the price of the phones is staying the same.

I can't remember who made the point now but the goodwill that could be generated by giving these people a free phone - even if they have to bring it back in October for the model they really wanted - is probably worth more in word of mouth advertising than a slot during the Super Bowl. And certainly a lot more than the $1,000,000 or whatever it would cost them worldwide (460 stores, allowing 2-3 reservation mess ups per store).

It would never happen I agree, but at the very least the OP should have had some respect and humility shown to them not just fobbed off with "oh well, better luck next time". Now, admittedly, we don't know how the OP approached the situation unless I missed it, and it could be that they got a bit.....irate.....from the outset and that set the tone for the interaction.
 
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It has everything to do with Tim Cook. Steve Jobs drove employees to excellence, and yes, he was a stern taskmaster and a perhaps somewhat of a tyrant, especially early in his career. But that's what it takes to generate the kind of company Apple was. It takes extreme heat and pressure to produce diamonds.

Tim Cook will have less stressed employees defaulting to mediocrity. woo hoo :rolleyes:

I think this story of Jobs giving a waitress a hard-time sums it up

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/one-an...steve-jobs-could-absolute-194012372.html?nf=1


On one hand he's correct, one should strive to excel at their job in every aspect. On the other hand, she's earning minimum wage and its obviously not a lifetime career, why be such a dick. Imagine how he treated employees
 
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I think this story of Jobs giving a waitress a hard-time sums it up

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/one-an...steve-jobs-could-absolute-194012372.html?nf=1


On one hand he's correct, one should strive to excel at their job in every aspect. On the other hand, she's earning minimum wage and its obviously not a lifetime career, why be such a dick. Imagine how he treated employees

People that rich and popular can treat people any way they choose to.

It is a right attained at that level. (Note that I'm not saying it is ever right to treat anyone in that manner).

Cash is King... :eek:
 
So you neglect to describe how that customer was treated when they arrived. My experience with Best Buy managers is that they are unavailable and uninterested in customer service (and I am being kind). So we dont really know how they got to the point of an outrageous request from the customer.

In my experience, if you (manager) are ready to offer some compensation that diffuses the customer. Most Best Buy managers come looking for a fight. That is, if you can actually get to the store manager these days.
I'm not sure how they were treated by customer service initially, but I can absolutely tell you that the GM will always take concerns face to face if requested. In the event that the GM is not in (all management already works 50 hour weeks and expecting s GM to be on call at all times would push their weeks well about 90 hours) there is a designated manager on duty that has authorization to take all issues. Generally that manager on duty is one who is being looked at as a potential general manager in the coming years.

I can only go by what my wife tells me. And believe me, I've had bad experiences at Best Buy as well, so I'm speaking against my wife's employer here, but I can guarantee you the customer wasn't treated like trash, at least in the instance. I'm also unsure how poorly one must be treated on a $60 pickup to expect a $400 item to be your compensation. For me to expect $400 "for my time" I would have to be physically and verbally abused, but I guess we are all different in our expectations.

My point was, plenty of people have unreasonable expectations. Expecting a $400 vacuum, which I will repeat, isn't even related to the original product ordered, is simply asinine.

Obviously I'm biased with how my wife treats people because, well, she is my wife, but I do know that she does hand out quite a few courtesy gift cards, and when she tells me at the end of the day how her day was, and shares a problem customer, I often tell her that she was too nice (there have been occasions where I've said "all he wanted was $20 and you didn't give it to him?"). Just this morning she was telling me about a customer who brought in an expired (three months ago) rewards coupon and she honored it no questions asked (and the customer was still pissed off because "they shouldn't expire in the first place")

My wife tends to get moved to "problem stores" that have been managed poorly for a while. This is her second move in three years to help start turning the store around. The last store where she worked went from among the last in the district to literally the top. They actually won a trip to Puerto Rico last year and she was pissed because she had just transferred to her new store and that made her ineligible. So she (and I) completely understand that there can and will be problems with management; her current position place of employment happened because of problems with management.

But, the take home here is, as has been suggested many times in this thread, if you have an issue with a store, a manager, employee, etc. bring it to the top. My wife is always happy with feedback. You know why? Because a crazy customer with asinine requests and remarks is pretty damn transparent. If you leave a ****** review and it's clear you're just hating because you feel you're the most important and most entitled person on earth, the employee you just slammed may get s talking to, but to won't go beyond that. Because consumer relations recognizes that their are tons of idiot customers in existence. On that same token, if an employee is consistently receiving bad feedback, it will absolutely get looked into.

It amazes me how many people (and I'm not implying anything about you here, just the thread in general) jump straight to the conclusion of "you want to get then guy fired?!!??!?" When talking about leaving feedback. Not many companies deal with their employees constantly in the razors edge where sneezing at the wrong time gives you the boot. Best Buy, occurring to my wife, is actually very forgiving, and one of the reasons she hasn't picked up three times the help she has already for the upcoming holiday season, is because hiring an inept fool is easy, firing them, not so much.

In unsure where you shop, but if it's anywhere in the New England area and you have issues I am happy to try and help. Nobody likes to hear that their employer has terrible customer service, and my wife aims to fix that. But these things can't be fixed without good feedback.
 
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I think this story of Jobs giving a waitress a hard-time sums it up

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/one-an...steve-jobs-could-absolute-194012372.html?nf=1


On one hand he's correct, one should strive to excel at their job in every aspect. On the other hand, she's earning minimum wage and its obviously not a lifetime career, why be such a dick. Imagine how he treated employees

This same logic applies to the apple employees. For those who have this idea that Apple and their employees and stores need to be perfect in all situations. They are paid around minimum wage. It is not a career job. So shouldn't people cut them some slack then?

They are not specially picked as one person here suggested. They do not possess "special powers" either if some people believe that. They are just everyday people who wear a blue shirt and who have been shown a set of rules and policies. That's all. Yes there are some specialists there. Some who have more training than others.

Show people respect in that they make mistakes. Just like you. And when you make a mistake at work I hope someone is there to "take your name and move it up the corporate ladder" as some suggested. You do not deserve to be compensated just because a error happened. Is it nice to be compensated. Yes. Does it bring a more loyal customer base. Yes. But it is not required. If you do not like it or the service. Buy something else and let your money speak for itself. No one. I repeat. No one is entitled to anything. That goes for me as well. It is a electronic device. That's all it is.
 
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