No speed bumps on the Powerbooks means they are first off the new Intel line.
I'd wait a couple months and you will see them..
I'd wait a couple months and you will see them..
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mnkeybsness said:
I was expecting a moderate jump up from iPhoto, not a black box Pro app for $500! From the very, very little I've read about it, Aperture looks pretty good for a v1.0 program. I can't wait to get to an Apple store to try it out. $500 is a bit stiff, but I at least can get a student discount to $250. That's not so bad if it is good at what it does. The system requirements are steep, so I might have to give in and get a new PowerBook. Hard drive and screen upgrades alone are tempting, plus i can get one for under $2000 with all I need (want). I should wait for Intel, but i can't help myself.
actionslacks said:
I dont think i can help you out, i talked to a regular tech guy, i have had 5 other repairs, and he sent me to a specialist, and hes now walking me through my replacement. And unfortunately I cant give out his name. But i wonder what im going to get,?? although i dont think these new machines would take my ram (1 gig) from this model whiele the the one they were sedning me did
Powerbooks look pathetic i will say, Powermacs didnt do much except for the top model in my view. A Real Quadra! Im happy for Steve but ill even be happier once they start the switch next year. This is nice for the Pro's but isnt much there for the consumer except again the Quad.
FreeScale is still.......................Motorola
IBM still dreams of the 3.0 CPU
FreeScale is still.......................Motorola
IBM still dreams of the 3.0 CPU
awrc said:
I couldn't agree with you more. I've been in this waiting game for over two years now. I have a very tired upgraded Sawtooth that barely gets by, so its been time to buy a new machine for a while. The last round of updates were irrelevant (other than the DL burners), and this update is starting to piss me off. Only the high end got a decent performance boost (the Quad), but the other two didn't really change. Now, there is a single dual core instead of two single cores. Other than memory, what was upgraded?
Granted, it would be a whole new world leaving my G4 behind, but I want a machine that will keep me happy for a while. And spending $3300 will not make me happy.
I'm glad they updated the std. vram and put in DL drives - the optical audio is nice on the 15" and DDR2 ram is faster...high res screens are nice too but we should've gotton 7448.ca_graphics said:
Complaint and question
Complaint:
I really wish they had added the might mouse sensors to the PBs, so we could have at least a facsimile of a real right-click.
Question:
The 12" native res is 1024x768, but can span video to the 23" cinema display. Does that mean the 23" would run at the same resolution or its optimum 1920 x 1200 pixels? And if the video card can support higher resolutions, why not put a better display in the 12"?
Complaint:
I really wish they had added the might mouse sensors to the PBs, so we could have at least a facsimile of a real right-click.
Question:
The 12" native res is 1024x768, but can span video to the 23" cinema display. Does that mean the 23" would run at the same resolution or its optimum 1920 x 1200 pixels? And if the video card can support higher resolutions, why not put a better display in the 12"?
I noticed that on the powermac spec sheet it lists the Nvidia 7800 GT with 256mb of GDDR3 SDRAM but does not offer it as an upgrade on any of the powermacs nor does it sell it seperately.
Yes
Yes, that came to my attention too. I guess Apple is no longer making intel seem slow compared to G5 since they will switch to intel soon or a more simple explanation is that intel is now faster than g5. But still, the quad core machine now looks as fast as intel workstations. I don't know how fast LighthWave was rendering on 2.7 but now it's 60% faster so it should make it as fast as AMD or intel ones right?
deputy_doofy said:Also fascinating is that the dual 2.7GHz is now the baseline for hardware speed comparisons. I don't see a Pentium reference anywhere....
Yes, that came to my attention too. I guess Apple is no longer making intel seem slow compared to G5 since they will switch to intel soon or a more simple explanation is that intel is now faster than g5. But still, the quad core machine now looks as fast as intel workstations. I don't know how fast LighthWave was rendering on 2.7 but now it's 60% faster so it should make it as fast as AMD or intel ones right?
Decent PM updates, I'd have to say but I'm a little disturbed about the ridiculous prices. I'm a gamer, but I also do some design work so my needs are definitely for a pro computer and not an iMac. I was looking forward to PCI Express and dual cores and I was certainly not disappointed.
But I'm forced to either choose between a middle of the line nVidia graphics card in the 6600, or an "over the top" workstation card for an extra $1650 Are you kidding me? Not to mention that the Quad starts out at $3300.
I'm not some rampant whiner, I happily toss over my $3000-3500 every few years for a shiny new machine with the latest of everything, but these prices are just too much. I can make due with my Dual G4 wind tunnel for another year.
But I'm forced to either choose between a middle of the line nVidia graphics card in the 6600, or an "over the top" workstation card for an extra $1650
Are you kidding me? Not to mention that the Quad starts out at $3300. I'm not some rampant whiner, I happily toss over my $3000-3500 every few years for a shiny new machine with the latest of everything, but these prices are just too much. I can make due with my Dual G4 wind tunnel for another year.
Abercrombieboy said:
What?
Dual 2.5 = single core P4 at 4.4 Ghz.
http://www.systemshootouts.org/processors.html
So Quad 2.5 =P4 at [x]
Fastest P4 dual is 3.2 Ghz.
Dell wants $2,949 for a pro system with this chip.
Just doing linear reasoning,
A Quad 2.5 is giving you the equivalent of
2 single core P4's at 4.4 Ghz.
so the Quad 2.5 easliy beats the Dual core P4 at 3.2 Ghz.
djkny said:
Yep! My words man!
Apple could've left the PB G4 scene with a bang, put in that 7448 which IS available now, give us those 200 MHz FSB and a decent x700 GPU and I would've bought it immediately. Now I'm thinking of buying the cheapest iBook (just to make Apple bleed) or even switch back to a modern! x86 Laptop with Linux on top.
Just order my GFizzle!!!
I just ordered my Quad GFizzle with 8Gb of RAM. God i'm such a Macintosh WHORE!
I just ordered my Quad GFizzle with 8Gb of RAM. God i'm such a Macintosh WHORE!
right...........lets get this straight.... everyone slammed Apple the last time they updated PowerMacs for not including dual core chips....... now they have been updated with the dual core chip including one PM with 2 dual core chips (4 cores), and everyones unhappy because they're crap?
Again...Apple expects the pro users who buy a machine at this level will want to spec, buy, and install their own RAM. 512 is enough to boot Tiger or Leopard, that's it. Anyone who can change the paper in a copy machine can add RAM to a PowerMac in a few minutes.xli_ne said:
Is this new? Looks neat.
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/images/portables_comparison_chart_con.html
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/images/portables_comparison_chart_con.html
I guess Apple didn't deem any of these new products worthy of a front page update on their site. Anywhere I can get info on Aperture? I cant find it on the site. just the store.
metrocon said:
15" and 17" come with DL Superdrives. Can also get 7200rpm 100GB hard drive
Dual-Dual look nice
Still gonna wait for the Mactel Powerbooks, probably Rev 2.
Where is 10.4.3!!!!
Where's front row?
Even though I know it's not a Pro app, I would have been nice to see Front Row with remote included on the "updated" PBs. Especially with the HD screens and all.
Even though I know it's not a Pro app, I would have been nice to see Front Row with remote included on the "updated" PBs. Especially with the HD screens and all.