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You're right, I didn't see countless purchases like this as well as systems like the HP Z8 G4 maxed out. Never ever saw that in the research wing of the hospital I worked for. Except I saw that on a regular basis.

I think you underestimate (or are just trolling, likely that) how much money hospitals throw around for doctors and research departments. I've stepped foot in many rooms that had in excess of 50M in mass spec machines alone, $20K in a computer for areas like this is nothing.

Gee, I wonder why it wasn't a maxed out Mac?!
 
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what else is new, apple been doing this for years
so if you don't pull out all your cash at once
you won't be able to upgrade later
nice strategy apple

also there is no point in having all that ram unless you want to create a ramdisk
I preferred less ram but faster speed
I had 128 gigs of ddr4 2133 but now I have 64 gigs ddr4 4000
yes I have less ram but is much faster

one last thing, it doesn't matter what apple does not even a ramdisk will be able to catch me
check this out

https://mega.nz/#!MvRFUK5L!tc1BQgLEARu5F29c_E1g1J5t9_Do3Y9n3LxmIuwMK2c
 
Useless since as a pro gamer and rising Twitch celebrity I cannot speedrun most games. My wife’s lab uses iMac Pros for cancer research but that pisses me off because it’s such a waste of money when they can use that endowment on cheaper and superior machines that run Windows.
 
This sort of thing is slowly going to normalize non-upgradability.

I wonder how long before Apple and even PC manufacturers burn the shipping config into the BIOS and simply refuse to boot with anything other than that configuration. Bought an HP with 4GB of RAM? Even if it has a RAM slot, put an 8GB stick in and it will refuse to boot with a "unsupported configuration" error... It's also easily doable with drive ID strings (Apple actually used to do exactly that back in the 90s - their formatter wouldn't format any SCSI drive without an approved ID string).

That's going to be a sad day, but if I could come up with the idea, I'm sure that major manufacturers are eyeing this idea with juicy chops. As the market slowly further accepts more and more of this crap, "market pressure" is just a hurdle to be overcome.

This is one of those times that I definitely go all environmental - e-waste that is artificially generated for no other reason than driving sales and vendor-lock-in is just ethically and morally wrong.
 
I mac pro: “pro” as in professional spender. Such a lame move on apple part. Try making all macs user upgradable...include ssd.
 
I also have to laugh that people here think 256GB RAM is "a lot" now days.

I sit next to two R620 servers in my home office that are part of my vmware lab, one has 256GB and the other 96GB. While DDR4 is much more expensive it still isn't a boat load of cash if you're doing work that requires it.

weird flex but ok
 
You're not running a server nor are you doing anything serious enough to need server grade memory since you're running OS X!
I didn’t think it was possible to exceed the foolishness of your previous display of ridiculousness (Not a single Apple consumer actually needs SERVER GRADE memory) but it seems you were up to the challenge.

Just how inexperienced are you, that you would post such obviously incorrect proclamations?
 
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AIO and Pro don't belong together, I hope the modular Mac Pro kills this nonsense product.
 
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Oh, I'm quite sure there are users who use all 16GB. Especially developers or those running VMs. However, I don't believe that the vast majority of MBP users all happen to be running multiple VMs. They just claim they do.

Claim they do? Why would someone say they want 32GB of ram if they wouldn't use it, especially because of the cost. I think its HIGHLY more likely there are MANY people who use their Pro machine to do Pro things. Video editing, image editing, software development, design work are all things that can EASILY use 16GB of ram.

We are not talking about running multiple VMs. It is a pro machine. If you have one? It sounds like you don't use it for pro things, or you would IMMEDIATELY see that you can use all 16GB very quickly.
 
AIO and Pro don't belong together, I hope the modular Mac Pro kills this nonsense product.
It seems you don’t understand the market for iMac Pro. Others in this thread don’t understand the market for Mac Pro ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if iMac Pro were to outsell Mac Pro two to one on an ongoing basis.
 
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$569.99 x 4 = $2279.96, or ≈ $3000 less than Apple's 256 GB upgrade.

Took me about a minute to search for that...

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...spd/precision-7920-workstation/XCTOPT7920US_3

Dell charges 6500 for 384GB 6x64GB DDR4 2666MHz LRDIMM ECC, that makes ~1100 per stick. Apple charges 1300 per stick.

Also consider 256GB might need a special motherboard. The price seems not that terrible.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...000006827/boards-and-kits/desktop-boards.html
"Registered or buffered memory doesn't work in a board that isn't designed for it, and vice versa."
 
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Well it restricts you from using anyone else but Apple change components to repair a computer, how long before it blocks you from upgrading ram which is all you can upgrade?


http://www.theverge.com/2018/11/12/18077166/apple-macbook-air-mac-mini-t2-chip-security-repair-replacement-tool
Many components can be repaired without needing to run the verification tool, but that’s beside the point. We weren’t discussing third-party repairability.

OP talked about non-upgradability in a possible future where the computer wouldn’t boot if it had been upgraded from its original shipping configuration. You claimed rhetorically that the T2 already effectively does that; I disagreed.

You’ll notice I did not disagree that soldering components effectively makes upgrading them impossible. That is true.
 
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Many components can be repaired without needing to run the verification tool, but that’s beside the point. We weren’t discussing third-party repairability.

OP talked about non-upgradability in a possible future where the computer wouldn’t boot if it had been upgraded from its original shipping configuration. You claimed rhetorically that the T2 already effectively does that; I disagreed.

You’ll notice I did not disagree that soldering components effectively makes upgrading them impossible. That is true.

But only the T2 would stop you upgrading your iMac Pro from before last week to 255GB right? It has the slots, the chipset controller will be the same as is all the rest of the machine, but Apple have locked it down.
 
It seems you don’t understand the market for iMac Pro. Others in this thread don’t understand the market for Mac Pro ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if iMac Pro were to outsell Mac Pro two to one on an ongoing basis.

The only reason there is a 'market' for an iMac Pro right now is because it's currently Apple's highest end option for running macOS. Give us a viable non-AIO choice, and lets see if that market for the iMac Pro continues to exist, or if it dies. Most pro users would choose non-AIO if a viable alternative existed.
 
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Did Apple allow the iMac Pro to be upgraded at a later time? I thought ever since they released the SSDs in Retina Machines that the parts couldn't be upgraded. Also the hard drives and RAM disappeared from www.apple.com some time ago.
You can modify the RAM at an Apple authorized service provider or an Apple store. Not the SSD, though.
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64GB ought to be enough for anybody.
Right?

I am sure there are more technical people on these forums....who could realistically use 256 Gig's of RAM? What kind of jobs? Even 128--who would need that?
 
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