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I'm not sure what professionals are in the market for an iMac Pro if they need 256 Gig. Until Apple comes out with a revised Mac Pro, I would probably looking at non-Apple solution for a lot less money.
I'm sure that people who can stomach a PC or a hackintosh, thats where they'll go
but for the rest of us Only a mac will do.
 
I am building a PC for everything related to graphics and video, and my Mac Book Pro for music. Macs are not using Nvidia anymore. If you need so much ram and processing power is to do 3D, and Macs do not use Navidia and nobody is going to get an expensive Mac to then get an external eGPU! All those apps run way faster on PC anyway.

So... for daily stuff... I can use the Mac I have and for rendering Adobe Suit, and 3D... a PC. Always upgradable and way cheaper.

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That's a nice looking set up, man.
 
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Dell charges 6500 for 384GB 6x64GB DDR4 2666MHz LRDIMM ECC, that makes ~1100 per stick. Apple charges 1300 per stick.

Dell also ridiculously marks up RAM. I paid $110 (from Crucial) for the exact same RAM stick that Dell wanted $330 for.

Same Micron RAM module, minus the Dell sticker.

wmic reports the two as identical aside from serial number that of course can't be the same.
 
Dell also ridiculously marks up RAM. I paid $110 (from Crucial) for the exact same RAM stick that Dell wanted $330 for.

Same Micron RAM module, minus the Dell sticker.

wmic reports the two as identical aside from serial number that of course can't be the same.

HP charges $19350 for 8x64GB DDR4-2666 ECC LRDIMM...fun...

https://store.hp.com/us/en/Configur...Id=&catEntryId=3074457345618619819&quantity=1

Lenovo price here
ThinkSystem 64GB TruDDR4 2666 MHz (4Rx4 1.2V) LRDIMM 7X77A01305 AUNE $1,249.50
 
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Not sure what is more alarming, you don't understand the benefit of being able to install that much RAM aftermarket, or you think OS X is efficient in using RAM.
I used a Ram Disk to boot the system on a MacPlus, then used the floppy for data. No hard drives.
Some people need more, I did.
 
I have one question
since the main topic or comment is that you need to upgrade your ram when you buy or order to computer
my best guess is that apple solder the ram to the logic board
I don't think they use crazy glue or a piece of bubble gum
:D

so what happens when the ram is faulty or damage
do I have to take the whole computer to the apple store
so they come up with we have to replace the entire logic board
because if they can remove just the ram to replace it
then why can apple let you upgrade the ram module later the same way
in case you decide to upgrade later on

sorry but this is a rip off tactic by apple
just in case since when speaking from the heart is trolling

isn't it really much simple
I got a bad ram module, let me go to my local electronic store and buy a new module
that way I don't have to spent a week without my precious computer

some computers are not just for hobbies and we need them to get our job done
what ever is it that the person do

sorry but this exactly why I don't buy apple computers
is not just because they are over price, yes they look beautiful
but why do I have to take it to an apple store when I can do it myself
I understand there are some people that don't know what they are doing and apple is protecting them against themselves
but is better to let that person screw themselves
because if they open it and they damage the computer
then they should pay for the repair
totally fair
but punishing every one else is not cool
soldering components to the logic board to stop everyone to make a simple upgrade
really
including the ones that know how to change a ram module is not right at least on my eyes

apple if you really wants to make money then let your costumers ruined their own Macs
you will look much better doing it that way
but is all the opposite apple might refused to fix that computer just because you open it

I honestly don't understand the logic behind all this
wait I think I do

even if you buy the computer from apple, I guess apple thinks the computers still belongs to them and not to you
sorry apple but I didn't rent the PC
when the costumer pay the price then is his computer
they bought the hardware

this exactly why I build myself a hackintosh that run circles around anything that apple makes
and I can do whatever I want it with it, upgrade as much as I like
;)

sorry for the long message
 
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Have you ever priced that amount of ECC ram?

I have not. Just incredible to see such a large number from a single upgrade. Just a weird thing of mine. Like pricing out a maxed old cheese grater Mac Pro back in the day and marveling.
 
Dell also ridiculously marks up RAM. I paid $110 (from Crucial) for the exact same RAM stick that Dell wanted $330 for.

Same Micron RAM module, minus the Dell sticker.

wmic reports the two as identical aside from serial number that of course can't be the same.

Well there is a big difference though. One can easily upgrade RAM in Dell or HP machines but not in iMacs. No wonder businesses for the most part avoid Apple hardware.
 
Claim they do? Why would someone say they want 32GB of ram if they wouldn't use it, especially because of the cost. I think its HIGHLY more likely there are MANY people who use their Pro machine to do Pro things. Video editing, image editing, software development, design work are all things that can EASILY use 16GB of ram.

We are not talking about running multiple VMs. It is a pro machine. If you have one? It sounds like you don't use it for pro things, or you would IMMEDIATELY see that you can use all 16GB very quickly.

Yes, claim. Why? Because it's another imaginary problem they can pretend to have so they can bash Apple. It's funny how an issue will come up with an iPhone, iOS or Mac that affects a very small percentage of users, yet online a majority of people will claim to have experienced that exact problem. How do you reconcile an issue that affect 1% of users, yet in an online community 50% or more say they have experienced that issue?
 
For all those questioning why you'd need 256gb of RAM (generally or for your Mac), if you have to ask, then you don't need it. You probably don't need an iMac Pro either (want is a different issue). Congrats on saving all that money.

BTW, Dell charges $4,600 for 256gb of RAM for their Xeon-W workstation (Precision 5820), while HP doesn't even offer that much for their workstation (Z4), but will sell you 128gb for $4,250.
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For all those questioning why you'd need 256gb of RAM (generally or for your Mac), if you have to ask, then you don't need it. You probably don't need an iMac Pro either (want is a different issue). Congrats on saving all that money.
Yeah, seriously. I couldn't take advantage of an iMac Pro even if I had one. Maybe I'd play a game or two? I don't know. Honestly, my regular old 5K iMac is more than fast enough for what I actually use it for. But you won't see me kvetching about how nobody "needs" higher-spec'ed machines than I have. :rolleyes:
 
But only the T2 would stop you upgrading your iMac Pro from before last week to 255GB right? It has the slots, the chipset controller will be the same as is all the rest of the machine, but Apple have locked it down.
The T2 does not regulate the allowable memory configuration as far as I know.

We don’t know why Apple says it’s only possible to have 256GB when ordered at that configuration, but I’m sure we’ll find out; there could be a difference in the hardware. In the past, Apple has said certain (higher) memory configurations aren’t supported, but later we find out from OWC that it is possible to upgrade.
 
You can modify the RAM at an Apple authorized service provider or an Apple store. Not the SSD, though.
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Right?

I am sure there are more technical people on these forums....who could realistically use 256 Gig's of RAM? What kind of jobs? Even 128--who would need that?

Scientific computing (Mathematica, Matlab, etc.). I could easily use a few terabytes, basically the more, the better ;-)
 
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For all those questioning why you'd need 256gb of RAM (generally or for your Mac), if you have to ask, then you don't need it. You probably don't need an iMac Pro either (want is a different issue).

Maya was mentioned https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2019-imacs-with-128-gb-memory.2174811/#post-27223985


The interesting part to me is that these systems are configured at the time of purchase. The customers have a specific plan for how these computers will be used, and know they will need more than 128 GB.

Some people are curious about that sort of thing.


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That's from Jurassic Park. I'm reading Neuromancer at the moment, and at one point early on the story, the main character is trying to sell 32 Megabytes on the black market.
 
I wondered why or what might require such a huge amount of RAM (not SSD). Someone wrote Adobe Premiere needed it, so I check what Adobe officially says.

After reading this I still have no clue, unless one needs to run multiple programs at the same time, why so much?

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/system-requirements.html

Processor

minimum - Intel® Intel 6thGen or newer CPU

recommended - Intel® Intel 6thGen or newer CPU

Operating system
minimum - macOS v10.12 or later (v10.13 or later required for hardware-acceleration)

recommended - macOS v10.12 or later (v10.13 or later required for hardware-acceleration)

RAM
Minimum - 8 GB of RAM

Recommended:
  • 16 GB of RAM for HD media
  • 32 GB for 4K media or higher
GPU
minimum - 2 GB of GPU VRAM

recommended - 4 GB of GPU VRAM

Hard disk space

  • 8 GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (will not install on a volume that uses a case sensitive file system or on removable flash storage devices).
  • Additional high-speed drive for media
  • Fast internal SSD for app installation and cache
  • Additional high-speed drive(s) for media

Adobe AfterEffects. Using 4K or 8K video frames, all the previews are done in RAM. You could easily eat up 256GB of RAM with just a few seconds of multi-layered video previews.
 
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$2,700 for 256GB. 4 64GB modules. Newegg that's after a quick search
OCW has it for $2,799
Buying parts is not the same as upgrading from a manufacturer. Apple has 130,000+ employees and spends over $1.2 billion a month on R&D. Those are the kinds of expenses a NewEgg or OWC doesn’t have, but which have to be covered by Apple’s prices.

Check out Dell, Lenovo and HP if you want to do a fair comparison.
 
For all those questioning why you'd need 256gb of RAM (generally or for your Mac), if you have to ask, then you don't need it. You probably don't need an iMac Pro either (want is a different issue). Congrats on saving all that money.

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You are addressing the wrong issue. Sure Dell charges as much as Apple however they don't prevent you from buying RAM separately and installing it yourself. Which, using Crucial modules (which all of them probably use anyways) would cost you $1944 (instead of $4600).
 
"Pro" stands for "proficient"

Uh-huh, I though Pro meant Profitable when used in conjunction with iMac Pro. Well, in that sense all Apple devices are ”Pro”.

Not that there is a anything wrong with profitability as such, and Apple delivers some seriously good stuff. It’s just that Apple pricing is sometimes a bit hefty... or should I say ”inspired by avarice”.
 
Is there something special and unique about the logic board when you order with 256GB?
My thoughts exactly.

Do they outfit it with a different motherboard? The processor should be capable of addressing 512GB per socket. No reason to use multiple SKUs, unless you really want to penny pinch your pro users.

Has anyone actually tested this? I've seen 256GB ram for $1.8K on Amazon, not $5.2K.

Your move OWC. You guys do your thing, test it out and report your findings.
 
And it's that 17th particle that holds the secrets of the universe... ;)

...kidding because I'm jealous...

This site?
http://hpc.sourceforge.net

I think it's defunct in part because most of these tools are better supported on Mac now, or can be installed easily through Homebrew, etc. This site was really useful when everything had to be hacked from Linux to work.
I think it was macresearch.org
 
640KB of RAM ought to be enough for anyone

Get on with the program. Ram is like good booty. You can never have enough
 
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