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Upgrading from Unofficial iPhone 2.0 Firmware to Official 2.0 Firmware
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but then the developer build 5a345 had tracking too.... Huh... Maybe it's not ready yet?
but then the developer build 5a345 had tracking too.... Huh... Maybe it's not ready yet?
i kept having apps crash on me with the leaked firmware.
just got the official and i'll cross my fingers in hopes that the crashes stop.
just got the official and i'll cross my fingers in hopes that the crashes stop.
Let this be known. I personally am a bit of a risk taker, but if you think about this it makes sense. This Firmware was found yesterday, maybe the day before ? So, how long do you think that pre-packaged new 3G's have been sitting in a warehouse with that same firmware. I'm sure yesterdays leak had 2 of the newest firmware versions, 1 for 1st gen, 1 for 3G. Now considering the small amount of hardware differences, and the same processor, wouldn't it make sense for Apple to hold out on a few key features, while reprimanding Macrumors (i.e. making them remove the link) ? I'm not buying it. Many of the problems I see are from crazy sync problems from the New Mobileme. People with old computers who have been syncing lost and forgotten data from other macs.
Tracking is a 3G only feature, and with good reason.. using it without gps is a HUGE battery drain.. and its not accurate enough to really be all that useful in most places that don't have wifi everywhere.
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huh.. Really? I haven't got a chance to upgrade to the latest version. But I will agree that this firmware I am on now was intended for 3G iPhones. The maps app has a follow me mode which was made specificly for gps. Good point, ol chap!
appleguru1 said:
huh.. Really? I haven't got a chance to upgrade to the latest version. But I will agree that this firmware I am on now was intended for 3G iPhones. The maps app has a follow me mode which was made specificly for gps. Good point, ol chap!
I dont think anyone from apple made macrumors remove the link.. I think arn did that because people were installing the incorrect firmware version on their first gen phones.
In any case, the build that ships with the current iPhone 3G is 5A345. If you do a restore on a 3g iPhone, you get 5A347.. that is iPhone1,2_2.0_5A347_Restore.ipsw.
If you do a restore on an original iPhone you get iPhone1,1_2.0_5A347_Restore.ipsw (Or at least, you did this morning.. it appears apple has pulled the update temporarily to give their activation servers a bit of a break)
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these different builds let me think original iPhones will be left out on features in future updates.
these different builds let me think original iPhones will be left out on features in future updates.
It said in the report, that Apple asked Macrumors to remove the link, it is gone now. Hey everyone - do what you want. I'm keeping my youthful firmware. If you are comfortable with Apples version of what 1 gen owners should receive for free, and you don't want any potential "further" issues..go for it.
But I know for a fact, that what was previously posted was 2 new gen. firmware releases, now there is only 1 - my phone works beautifully, and i love my tracking via Cell/IP tracking...of course, I don't have the GPS radio.
But I know for a fact, that what was previously posted was 2 new gen. firmware releases, now there is only 1 - my phone works beautifully, and i love my tracking via Cell/IP tracking...of course, I don't have the GPS radio.
I have the first (3G) upgrade on my original phone and I don't have the a "follow me" mode that I can find, am I looking in the wrong place? Is it in the settings? I have had a few problems with this version, took twice as long to install on my phone as it did on my sons and I have had sluggishness and wifi issues.
i'm just waiting for the placebo-suckers to tell us that their leaked firmware makes Mobile Safari "Snappier"
downloaded the one yesterday, and just replaced it with this. No problems. Call me crazy, but I'm actually not restoring from backup, so I'll have a nice clean slate.
Downloaded and installed. All looks good. It took about 15 minutes for the update and another 20 minutes to do the restore from backup. I downloaded a the remote (very cool) and cube runner.
This is running very smoothly so far. I got a chance to try the bulk mail delete, works as advertised! Wish this was updated a long time ago!
I'll try bluetooth in the car before I upgrade the wifes phone, but it looks good so far. I had to download the software as the check for updates button did nothing.
Now I have to get the reviews of what App's are worth downloading...
This is running very smoothly so far. I got a chance to try the bulk mail delete, works as advertised! Wish this was updated a long time ago!
I'll try bluetooth in the car before I upgrade the wifes phone, but it looks good so far. I had to download the software as the check for updates button did nothing.
Now I have to get the reviews of what App's are worth downloading...
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You know.. I think it's better to just go official. You'll thank yourself in the long run.
You know.. I think it's better to just go official. You'll thank yourself in the long run.
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these different builds let me think original iPhones will be left out on features in future updates.
Doubt it, since all the main hardware minus the data chipset, and gps is the "same"... Not including "follow me" mode on the original iPhone firmware build makes sense.
I'd tend to agree with this.. the iPhone 3G build has system calls to hardware the original iPhone does not have. So if your running the 3G fw on your 2G iPhone (Which I'm honestly very surprised its possible; apple really ought to add a hardware model check when restoring...), when your OS calls the 3G chipset up and/or calls up the GPS.. it wont respond. This is speculation for the iPhone, but typical os x behavior in the case of calling missing hardware is to retry.. and retry some more.. and eventually time out. As you can imagine, this can add significant sluggishness to the OS and is likely the reason the 1,1 build is faster on the original iPhone.
Under 1,2 firmware I've been experiencing multiple system restarts upon app launch (both 3rd Party and Apple), frequent app crashes, and a 5-10 second "mini-freeze" everytime I try to search Contacts.
The firmware's got issues for 1st Gen owners, no doubt.
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Me too. Hopefully this will be solved when I upgrade to the right firmware.
RidleyGriff said:
Me too. Hopefully this will be solved when I upgrade to the right firmware.
I have the same problems as well. I'm really hoping the proper firmware clears things up, but I'm not counting on it. I think we'll need 2.0.1 for that.
Its certainly faster, and it retains both features. The lag when scrolling contacts, homepages, etc is gone. As well, I found that if you're downloading an app, and lose signal (I was in the subway) it picks up right where it left off.
A good crossgrade.
I'm actually having a pretty big issue with the latest version of the posted firmware (1g phone) - I can't get my Wifi connection to work. I can see my local network just fine and can connect to the AP, but I cannot acquire an IP address from my DHCP server... Of course, when I was using yesterday's firmware, I was unable to get ANY of the applications that I downloaded to send/receive data over an EDGE connection - they only worked with Wifi. They work fine with EDGE now, but of course they can't use my Wifi connection because my phone doesn't have an IP address.
Ugh.
Ugh.
The only reason I did get the official one is that the "pre-release" one did not involve signing an agreement. There's some legalize about using software not "officially agreed" to. This makes me feel legal.
Wait a minute, I'm not sure I want to lose the follow-me mode. I guess I can keep both firmwares and use the one I want. It turns off easy enough (for those confused, follow-me mode works when you tap the target/locate-me button in Maps and then turns off when you tap the button again -- button "dims" to show it's off.)
I used the unofficial, possible 3G-intended 2.0 firmware yesterday, and now I've snagged the official EDGE firmware ipsw file, as others posted, and I'll use it if I have problems -- I certainly won't use it until I'm sure the iTunes store isn't so bogged down with new 3G activations and old EDGE re-activations with firmware updates I can't get my phone to activate. But I LIKE follow-me mode, and it works fine with tower triangulation in my area. As for power drain, I don't have to leave it on all the time (see above about how to turn it off) only when I want/need it.
Also, a few other points: my EDGE iPhone tower triangulation "pseudo-GPS" is FAR MORE accurate than it used to be. Do we know this has been optimized for EDGE iPhones, or is it only part of the optimization included with 3G iPhones since they use both tower triangulation AND bona fide GPS to locate? Also, I have full location services on EDGE iPhone now with the allegedly 3G iPhone firmware 2.0. Can anyone report EDGE iPhones with official EDGE iPhone firmware 2.0 support location-based services via tower triangulation, or are location-based services only officially supported with 3G iPhones. Finally, on my "early-bird" firmware 2.0 EDGE iPhone the App Store works over EDGE as well as WiFi, while the iTunes Store still works only over WiFi (as I expected is true for 3G iPhone as well). Can anyone confirm the App Store allows for purchase, download and install of apps from the App Store over EDGE with the EDGE iPhone firmware 2.0, or is this feature, in the official firmware, reserved for somewhat faster 3G iPhones?
Yeah, I know: Sooner or later there's going to be a feature I want that forces me to the latest official EDGE iPhone firmware, but for now, though I'm predisposed to get all shaky living on the razor's edge and want everything all official and everything, this works, it works great, I've grabbed the official EDGE iPhone firmware 2.0 release and am hanging onto it for safety's sake, but I'm not going to change anything until I have problems.
Speaking of problems: with yesterday's early firmware on an EDGE iPhone, app crashes, no restarts, no freezes, no problems, period, exclamation point. I'd suggest some problems people are having may just be problems unrelated to early firmware, as people today upgrading to official firmware 2.0 for EDGE iPhones, people who were still at the official 1.xx iPhone firmware, have had a slew of errors and problems not even related to failed activations and failed connections to the iTunes Store for verification.
(One thing, though, when I installed firmware 2.0 yesterday, iTunes did think it was an entirely different iPhone; but it gave me the option of just telling iTunes it was indeed the same phone with the same number, not adding a new phoe, so I selected that and it reactivated, no problem. My iTunes iPhone syncing prefs still show the "old" iPhone, though. Not sure if this is expected behavior because Firmware 2.0 is so different iTunes thinks it's a new phone, or because iTunes now thinks I have a 3G iPhone. Locally only, however, because ATT systems shows I only have two active phones on the same old EDGE iPhone family plan, mine and my wife's, which is same as it ever was.)
UPDATE: Follow-me mode turns itself off when you quit Maps anyway (but not when the phone goes to sleep, you have to turn follow-me off or leave Maps, which is the same as quitting it since iPhone apps may seem like more than one run at a time, but that's just UI, they really don't), so I wouldn't sweat battery life unless you stay in Maps all the time. Also tower triangulation not only is far more accurate, but Maps, at least under the "early" firmware, now also zooms you in to street level so you can really see where you are rather than just dropping a circle around a bunch of streets too zoomed out to label with street names. Used to be you had to manually zoom in deep if it you weren't like on some major 8-lane highway when you tower triangulated.
Last thing, is there a setting so you can give blanket permission to use location, and not have to okay it every time you run a location-based app?
I used the unofficial, possible 3G-intended 2.0 firmware yesterday, and now I've snagged the official EDGE firmware ipsw file, as others posted, and I'll use it if I have problems -- I certainly won't use it until I'm sure the iTunes store isn't so bogged down with new 3G activations and old EDGE re-activations with firmware updates I can't get my phone to activate. But I LIKE follow-me mode, and it works fine with tower triangulation in my area. As for power drain, I don't have to leave it on all the time (see above about how to turn it off) only when I want/need it.
Also, a few other points: my EDGE iPhone tower triangulation "pseudo-GPS" is FAR MORE accurate than it used to be. Do we know this has been optimized for EDGE iPhones, or is it only part of the optimization included with 3G iPhones since they use both tower triangulation AND bona fide GPS to locate? Also, I have full location services on EDGE iPhone now with the allegedly 3G iPhone firmware 2.0. Can anyone report EDGE iPhones with official EDGE iPhone firmware 2.0 support location-based services via tower triangulation, or are location-based services only officially supported with 3G iPhones. Finally, on my "early-bird" firmware 2.0 EDGE iPhone the App Store works over EDGE as well as WiFi, while the iTunes Store still works only over WiFi (as I expected is true for 3G iPhone as well). Can anyone confirm the App Store allows for purchase, download and install of apps from the App Store over EDGE with the EDGE iPhone firmware 2.0, or is this feature, in the official firmware, reserved for somewhat faster 3G iPhones?
Yeah, I know: Sooner or later there's going to be a feature I want that forces me to the latest official EDGE iPhone firmware, but for now, though I'm predisposed to get all shaky living on the razor's edge and want everything all official and everything, this works, it works great, I've grabbed the official EDGE iPhone firmware 2.0 release and am hanging onto it for safety's sake, but I'm not going to change anything until I have problems.
Speaking of problems: with yesterday's early firmware on an EDGE iPhone, app crashes, no restarts, no freezes, no problems, period, exclamation point. I'd suggest some problems people are having may just be problems unrelated to early firmware, as people today upgrading to official firmware 2.0 for EDGE iPhones, people who were still at the official 1.xx iPhone firmware, have had a slew of errors and problems not even related to failed activations and failed connections to the iTunes Store for verification.
(One thing, though, when I installed firmware 2.0 yesterday, iTunes did think it was an entirely different iPhone; but it gave me the option of just telling iTunes it was indeed the same phone with the same number, not adding a new phoe, so I selected that and it reactivated, no problem. My iTunes iPhone syncing prefs still show the "old" iPhone, though. Not sure if this is expected behavior because Firmware 2.0 is so different iTunes thinks it's a new phone, or because iTunes now thinks I have a 3G iPhone. Locally only, however, because ATT systems shows I only have two active phones on the same old EDGE iPhone family plan, mine and my wife's, which is same as it ever was.)
UPDATE: Follow-me mode turns itself off when you quit Maps anyway (but not when the phone goes to sleep, you have to turn follow-me off or leave Maps, which is the same as quitting it since iPhone apps may seem like more than one run at a time, but that's just UI, they really don't), so I wouldn't sweat battery life unless you stay in Maps all the time. Also tower triangulation not only is far more accurate, but Maps, at least under the "early" firmware, now also zooms you in to street level so you can really see where you are rather than just dropping a circle around a bunch of streets too zoomed out to label with street names. Used to be you had to manually zoom in deep if it you weren't like on some major 8-lane highway when you tower triangulated.
Last thing, is there a setting so you can give blanket permission to use location, and not have to okay it every time you run a location-based app?