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I did find one possible difference between yesterday's 1,2 software, and the official 1,1 software. Yesterday, when I curled up the map in google maps, the button under "Drop Pin" said something along the lines of "Traffic not available in this area" (sorry I am not sure about the actual wording). After using arn's instructions to install the official version of 2.0, the button now says Hide Traffic/Show Traffic. I've never seen the button say "Traffic not available in this area" in any 1.x version. I'm not 100% sure that this has to do with the firmware, but maybe someone with the unofficial version can check theirs?

I still have unofficial version installed. I am in LA area. Last time I used the Map application, it was set to some driving directions in New England. When I launched Map, it provided my last screen in New England. I clicked the curled page and received the same message that you reported.

However, then I performed a find for Home and when the screen returned to the LA area, traffic data was displayed.

Therefore, you may have had your Map screen set to an area that truly did not have traffic data.
 
I wish someone could laundry list follow-me, more accurate tower triangulation, location services, etc. with the official upgrade firmware. I would but I don't want to smack my phone waiting for reactivation or otherwise waffle up a perfectly working situation. Cause I have my doubts that's 3G iPhone firmware only. I think some evidence of that is the lack of a click-sign agreement. That firmware update, I think, was probably for stores to update their demo iPhones to the latest firmware. Thus no click-sign, since store demo units don't belong to end users. Of course it's only "3G firmware" because Apple doesn't sell EDGE iPhones anymore, so there were none in the stores to upgrade.

The only reason I did get the official one is that the "pre-release" one did not involve signing an agreement. There's some legalize about using software not "officially agreed" to. This makes me feel legal.
 
so after updating from leaked to official 2.0, my AIM app can't connect to server.

i deleted and redownloaded it, rebooted, and still no dice.
i hope its just their servers.
 
Confirmed. Unofficial firmware here. Right near major freeways and roads in DFW, very large metro area in north Texas. Traffic data in Maps works fine. Agree, you probably were either in an area for which no traffic data was available, or box(es) that serves traffic data to Maps was wonky at the moment.

And, O.P. is also right, this probably has nothing to do with GPS vs. tower-tri; traffic data is just data sucked off a Google server somewhere -- laptops with no cell modems, tower-tri or GPS will show traffic data in google maps, no problem. It's not a individual device location-based service.

I still have unofficial version installed. I am in LA area. Last time I used the Map application, it was set to some driving directions in New England. When I launched Map, it provided my last screen in New England. I clicked the curled page and received the same message that you reported.

However, then I performed a find for Home and when the screen returned to the LA area, traffic data was displayed.

Therefore, you may have had your Map screen set to an area that truly did not have traffic data.
 
yup, using yesterday's 3G restore and the phone now has super enhanced location ability on EDGE in maps, also camera now asks to use my location. Before the phone maps give me a 10+ block radius where I was, now it's pinpointing the exact building i'm in!:D Noticed some slow down in a few apps initially, Monkeyball crashed once but nothing that would make me upgrade to the official unless that enhanced location ability is still available.

Official upgraders: how's the location ability in maps?
 
yup, using yesterday's 3G restore and the phone now has super enhanced location ability on EDGE in maps, also camera now asks to use my location. Before the phone maps give me a 10+ block radius where I was, now it's pinpointing the exact building i'm in!:D Noticed some slow down in a few apps initially, Monkeyball crashed once but nothing that would make me upgrade to the official unless that enhanced location ability is still available.

Official upgraders: how's the location ability in maps?

I noticed this too, but I thought it was just me. Nice to know I'm not the only one. :)

Maybe the original iPhone has GPS and we just don't know about it.. ;)
 
yup, using yesterday's 3G restore and the phone now has super enhanced location ability on EDGE in maps, also camera now asks to use my location. Before the phone maps give me a 10+ block radius where I was, now it's pinpointing the exact building i'm in!:D Noticed some slow down in a few apps initially, Monkeyball crashed once but nothing that would make me upgrade to the official unless that enhanced location ability is still available.

Official upgraders: how's the location ability in maps?

Pretty so-so... tapping the locate me button initially gives you a HUGE circle that throbs.. then it zooms in closer if it can based on wifi data and/or additional triangulation presumably... still a big circle though.
 
so after updating from leaked to official 2.0, my AIM app can't connect to server.

i deleted and redownloaded it, rebooted, and still no dice.
i hope its just their servers.

Mine is fine, with early firmware. (I don't know if you can call putting it on a wide-open public server actually AT apple.com, with not so much as a generic user/pass, and LEAVING IT THERE freaking all day long a leak, per se.)

Frankly, I don't buy SPX is anything but a fake. Come on. The "I work for Apple innuendo"? Please. He writes things about it being a dev build for dev units that only someone on the iPhone team at Apple should know. And the first rule of fight club is you don't talk about fight club. And he just registered yesterday, and his first post, and subsequent posts, were all during his "busy day", so would have very likely been posted from a Cupertino Mac on a Cupertino network on an Apple IP. Can you say, Please fire me now and sue me for violating my NDA in a huge way?

Seriously, I was once in a medical forum debate, with a bunch of smarmy, foul-mouthed, egregiously pompous and very, very wrong, third and fourth year med students. About 80 posts total, I posted 20 - 25. It wasn't sweet of me, I admit, but they were buttheads and refused to even LOOK UP the data to see they were wrong, so about post 5 I identified myself as a fellow in neurology in the Johns Hopkins hospital systems. The HOPKINS, for God's sake. And all about 12 of them bought it. One of them, one of them who was no being a complete dolt and jerk on top of it, she sent me a PM and asked, "You're not really a fellow are you? You're just like maybe four years or so into some kind of neurology residency at JH, right?" Ha. I was a pre-med student and I took the MCAT but I never even applied to med school. They definitely should have caught me out SOMEWHERE, but they didn't. Because everything I wrote was fact, or I opined based entirely on fact, and I didn't overreach beyond my knowledge, granted it's a kind of deep knowledge in the field for a person who is officially a layman. But a fourth year med student has done clinical work dealing with neurology. SOMEBODY should have figured it out. (And, no, not one of them did, or they would have shredded me; you have to know how med students are).

The point being everything SPX wrote sounds reasonable enough, it's just not true. Why is my debug firmware iPhone NEVER slowing down or restarting? Maybe it's just that the debug firmware is, ah, really buggy right, and doesn't make 3G calls or debug data dumps like it's supposed to? Seriously, how many of you who did an early upgrade had jailbroken and/or unlocked iPhones? Mine was clean, clean, clean.

SPX is a fake. I have no confirmation what that early firmware was for, but I again say I suspect it was for the STORES to have the latest firmware on the demo units, and Apple didn't take it down right away because it would work, it wasn't going to hurt anyone, and they needed the stores to have access to it. In fact, I don't know they ever took it down; they just asked arn to remove the link. They didn't C&D him; apparently they just asked nicely and he politely complied.
 
Pretty so-so... tapping the locate me button initially gives you a HUGE circle that throbs.. then it zooms in closer if it can based on wifi data and/or additional triangulation presumably... still a big circle though.

Oh then forget it. I used to get the half or quarter block. Now I get the building, too.

(bear in mind, though, folks, this could be the kind of coverage you have in your area, all EDGE iPhone tower-triangulation could be optimized just like the alleged 3G iPhone firmware locate-me function, but it will only work as well as it can with the signal coverage in your immediate vicinity).

Oh, also, that first, huge circle lasting about a second? That's just UI for "locating you", rather than giving you a spinning dial or something. I suspect it does the same thing with GPS on the 3G iPhone. Still takes a second to lock you in, even with GPS.

I would however like to hear from 3G owners how the GPS is. It may be that iPhone GPS in an area with good cell tower coverage for triangulation is no better than tower triangulation. Now out of range of all towers, are in really weak signal coverage, GPS will work far better than tower-tri, or tower-tri won't work at all while GPS will keeping working.
 
clarification: it seems only when wi-fi is on that the "enhanced" (knowing the exact building i'm in) location ability in maps works, on EDGE it's still a big "circle".
 
Last thing, is there a setting so you can give blanket permission to use location, and not have to okay it every time you run a location-based app?

In theory, turning location services "On" in general settings should do this.. but it doesn't.. apps seem to prompt regardless of the setting. odd.
 
clarification: it seems only when wi-fi is on that the "enhanced" (knowing the exact building i'm in) location ability in maps works, on EDGE it's still a big "circle".

Confirmed. I just shut off WiFi and tried. Although I did this near my wife's office, no WiFi available, EDGE only, and it knew the exact building I was in, even follow-me'd me into it. I think great signal coverage, it can get that close; with so-so signal coverage, it needs the WiFi to peg it down closer.
 
I just updated. It'll be interesting to see if I notice any difference with this 2.0 vs the one I installed yesterday.
 
So I finally got my old iPhone working on the proper 2.0 software. :) I guess I was a little bit upset like the rest of you; not so much because servers were down or whatever was going on and updates weren't available, but I feel it would have been nice to give 2.0 to those of us who over-paid for the first gen iPhone, but whatever. I love the new software and 3rd party apps!!!!

One unexpected but very very welcome bonus is the .wav files that Vonage emails me of my voicemail can now finally be played back by the iPhone!!! So now I have something like visual voicemail for my home phone!!!!!! :) :apple: :cool: :D
 
is it really worth it to upgrade? i dont have any issues with this firmware so why should i go through all that work for no payoff, plus my laptop takes forever to sync all my data (damn ibook FSB)
 
Mine is fine, with early firmware. (I don't know if you can call putting it on a wide-open public server actually AT apple.com, with not so much as a generic user/pass, and LEAVING IT THERE freaking all day long a leak, per se.)

Frankly, I don't buy SPX is anything but a fake. Come on. The "I work for Apple innuendo"? Please. He writes things about it being a dev build for dev units that only someone on the iPhone team at Apple should know. And the first rule of fight club is you don't talk about fight club. And he just registered yesterday, and his first post, and subsequent posts, were all during his "busy day", so would have very likely been posted from a Cupertino Mac on a Cupertino network on an Apple IP. Can you say, Please fire me now and sue me for violating my NDA in a huge way?

Seriously, I was once in a medical forum debate, with a bunch of smarmy, foul-mouthed, egregiously pompous and very, very wrong, third and fourth year med students. About 80 posts total, I posted 20 - 25. It wasn't sweet of me, I admit, but they were buttheads and refused to even LOOK UP the data to see they were wrong, so about post 5 I identified myself as a fellow in neurology in the Johns Hopkins hospital systems. The HOPKINS, for God's sake. And all about 12 of them bought it. One of them, one of them who was no being a complete dolt and jerk on top of it, she sent me a PM and asked, "You're not really a fellow are you? You're just like maybe four years or so into some kind of neurology residency at JH, right?" Ha. I was a pre-med student and I took the MCAT but I never even applied to med school. They definitely should have caught me out SOMEWHERE, but they didn't. Because everything I wrote was fact, or I opined based entirely on fact, and I didn't overreach beyond my knowledge, granted it's a kind of deep knowledge in the field for a person who is officially a layman. But a fourth year med student has done clinical work dealing with neurology. SOMEBODY should have figured it out. (And, no, not one of them did, or they would have shredded me; you have to know how med students are).

The point being everything SPX wrote sounds reasonable enough, it's just not true. Why is my debug firmware iPhone NEVER slowing down or restarting? Maybe it's just that the debug firmware is, ah, really buggy right, and doesn't make 3G calls or debug data dumps like it's supposed to? Seriously, how many of you who did an early upgrade had jailbroken and/or unlocked iPhones? Mine was clean, clean, clean.

SPX is a fake. I have no confirmation what that early firmware was for, but I again say I suspect it was for the STORES to have the latest firmware on the demo units, and Apple didn't take it down right away because it would work, it wasn't going to hurt anyone, and they needed the stores to have access to it. In fact, I don't know they ever took it down; they just asked arn to remove the link. They didn't C&D him; apparently they just asked nicely and he politely complied.

At present, both firmware files are still up on apples servers, same links as before. Both appear to be legitimate release images, one for the iPhone 2G and one for the iPhone 3G. Apple likely requesting the link(s) be removed to help avoid confusion/users installing the incorrect version on their devices, as well as to alleviate some burden on their activation servers which went down for a good chunk of the day today (but seem to be back up now). Apple themselves pulled the 2.0 update during the day today, and I'm not sure they've put it back yet (That is, the ipsw is still online, but iTunes will say 1.1.4 is current)
 
At present, both firmware files are still up on apples servers, same links as before. Both appear to be legitimate release images, one for the iPhone 2G and one for the iPhone 3G. Apple likely requesting the link(s) be removed to help avoid confusion/users installing the incorrect version on their devices, as well as to alleviate some burden on their activation servers which went down for a good chunk of the day today (but seem to be back up now). Apple themselves pulled the 2.0 update during the day today, and I'm not sure they've put it back yet (That is, the ipsw is still online, but iTunes will say 1.1.4 is current)

Agreed. It's not a debug build. Likely it supports EDGE and 3G iPhones whereas today's official upgrade from today supports only EDGE phones, might run on 3G iPhones, but you'd lose some features.

Oh, first bit of suck I've noticed: Location-based uploads to me gallery from an EDGE phone: No GPS data. Well, duh, but I mean it doesn't even try, like an estimated L&L from the tower-triangulation results and an altitude for that estimated L&L pulled from an online database. Not even trying to provide location-based services to EDGE iPhones that can easily do it, but just to a lesser degree of accuracy -- not all that much lesser, really, in good signal coverage -- is lame. First negative thing I have to say about firmware 2.0.
 
Just wanted to confirm that installing the correct firmware update for the original iPhone does seem to help its responsiveness. I just completed restoring the firmware and software and it only took a second attempt to finally activate my phone again. I love this thing! It's like a brand new phone every time a new firmware gets released. My guilty pleasure download is the Phonesaber App. Brilliant idea, however, I wonder if that dude will get a cease and desist order from Lucuasfilm. Sure is fun though.
 
I can confirm i had firmware 1,2 on my 2G phone and SMS chat typing was soooo sluggish. To the point where I didn't want to txt. I upgraded to 1,1 and everything is ok.

iPhone 2G (old) users SHOULD use the new new 1,1 firmware

Thank you. I have that problem now and you gave me enough motivation to "downgrade" to the correct firmware.
 
I have a 2G iphone, I had installed the 3G firmware yesterday. Yes it mostly worked fine.

I have 2 confirmed features that now work correctly on the 1,1 firmware that did not work right on the 1,2 one.


1.) The contacts search was really slow to pull up.

2.) Saving pictures from an email did NOT work at all on the 1,2 firmware. They locked up both the camera and photo apps after saved and would not let me use them anymore until I actually deleted the photos from the iphone with iphoto.

On the correct firmware, Search pulls up really snappy and I can sucessfully save pictures from Email now, although they aren't available immediately. I think the iphone processes and optimizes in the background and does the process that the sync would do because a couple minutes later they were sucessfully imported.

So yes, it is a fact that the official firmware works better on the phone it was designed for.
 
Me too!

Hard to tell how desperate I am with this iPod Touch?
I restored my ipod with the slight glimmer of hope that it would suddenly say there's new software available.
And now, it's forgotten about the software upgrade I put in back in January,
which MEANS, that i no longer have weather, stocks and all that stuff. SOMEHOW though, my ipod touch still has web clips, and can flick through the different home screens, but i cant rearrange the icons. Which now means there are gaps where the old apps were, all scattered around the home screen, but i cant re-arrange them.
Can you imagine what it looks like?!?!?!?!?!
and now it wont let me put the upgrade back in cos there's some "error". Brilliant. This new software better be worth the freakin hassle.

I am in the same position.. I do notice that there is a link posted on Apple's website stating that you can purchase the new software update. However, when trying to access the store, it leads nowhere. And, when trying to select "Check For Update," it tells me my version is the most current one. Sigh.
 
1,1_2.0 DOES retain the "follow me" function

I just went on a drive for the benefit of Macrumors. I installed the "wrong" firmware on my 2g iPhone yesterday. No problems. I played with my apps. All I noticed was a bit of "stickiness" with touch keyboards in email, sms, etc.
Today I changed to the "correct" firmware. I hadn't noticed the Map app's "follow me" feature with yesterday's firmware, but allow me to assure you:
It DOES in fact work with the "official" release firmware contrary to what has been said. When you push the "locate" button it stays "lit" and continually updates. I'm sure it's not as instantaneous as it would be if I had real GPS, but it does track you as you move. I left the Map app running and checked it at each major intersection, and the crosshairs had me pegged correctly every time. It also seems that the longer it's on the smaller the circle gets, but that may just be my imagination
 
my EDGE iPhone tower triangulation "pseudo-GPS" is FAR MORE accurate than it used to be. Do we know this has been optimized for EDGE iPhones, or is it only part of the optimization included with 3G iPhones since they use both tower triangulation AND bona fide GPS to locate? Also, I have full location services on EDGE iPhone now with the allegedly 3G iPhone firmware 2.0. Can anyone report EDGE iPhones with official EDGE iPhone firmware 2.0 support location-based services via tower triangulation, or are location-based services only officially supported with 3G iPhones.

Nope, I'm afraid you're probably just sitting in a particularly nice spot for triangulation.

I've tried the 1,2 and now 1,1 firmware on an EDGE handset and it thinks I'm about half a mile away from where I should be (both selected the same spot).
 
Actually, Phil, yep. It's dependent on WiFi access and tower coverage, but it definitely was NOT this good in either of my test locations, one EDGE-only, one EDGE+WiFi, just the day before yesterday. Unless they threw up a dozen new towers night before last, it's better.

Nope, I'm afraid you're probably just sitting in a particularly nice spot for triangulation.

I've tried the 1,2 and now 1,1 firmware on an EDGE handset and it thinks I'm about half a mile away from where I should be (both selected the same spot).
 
I updated using the iPhone1,2 update yesterday and everything appears to be working fine, the geo-location works fine, nothing seems sluggish to me at all, all the apps run fine, contact search is somewhat slow but I don't use that anyway due to the small size of my phonebook. All I want to know is what is there in the iphone1,1 version that will work better that I need, or what is there that is bad for me in iphone1,2? Thanks in advance.
 
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