'Upload Video' Screen Suggests Video Capabilities in Next iPhone

[wizard]

Apple has way to much BS with respect to multitasking or back ground apps

So when Macrumors posts something that is not obvious and perhaps a reach (ie. background processes) they are stupid. But when they post something obvious they are also being stupid?

I'm not sure what you are getting at here with the original poster but Mac Rumors should be taken to task for not being more agressive in dealling with Apples official BS.

Background apps on the iphone are not a battery issue. RAM is a bigger issue here.

I like your logic.

They said background processes were a drain on iPhone battery life for the current generations, that does not mean they cannot do a hardware revision to make up for it. It is possible.

It certainly is possible. The problem is Apple is using it's RDF field big time here when they use networking apps as examples of apps that use lots of power. That should result in a big duh from everybody. There are plenty of apps that would greatly benefit from background processing and not require the power drain of a network connection.

On example is already coming from Apple and that is the voice recorder. Especially if that voice recorder comes with a supplemental mic input. I can see plenty of examples where you would want to continue an audio recording while other things are happening on iPhone.

Turn by turn GPS is another example. Do you really want that feature to bug out if you take a ten minute call or do other things? Not to mention that if you are using turn by turn you are likely in a vehical with a power source.

The problem is Apples reasoning about background apps. Appears to be designed to deflect rational discussion. They seem to totally disregard a multitude of ligitimate uses for background apps.

Also, its not entirely obvious a new iPhone is coming out in June/July but it is highly expected, thus the observation by MR.

It wasn't entirely obvious that the Mini was coming out either. It isn't obvious that the new iPhone is coming out in that time frame either but the timing of this software release is very interesting as is reports of it's stability.

Why would you read something you thought was written by a dumb monkey--unless of course it was written by a dumb monkey--which would make it all the more interesting.

Start your own GENIUS Apple Rumors site!

While I don't have the issues with Mac Rumors that I have with some other sites I would hope that I could be free to express displeasure with something MR might have done. The fact that I personally am not alarmed by this report doesn't mean somebody else isn't. Maybe the expression of that Alarm wasn't well done but that is a different issue.


Dave

 

[Goona]

First Tethering, now Video support, Apple aren't doing a good job of keeping the extra features secret until the summer launch.

Still at least they're finally delivering everything the previous iPhones had been woefully missing - as long as they keep the pricing structure the same (UK) I'll be prepared to finally commit to the device.

Dude you have people looking into the code for clues, how can Apple control that?

 

[Goona]

So when Macrumors posts something that is not obvious and perhaps a reach (ie. background processes) they are stupid. But when they post something obvious they are also being stupid?

I like your logic.

They said background processes were a drain on iPhone battery life for the current generations, that does not mean they cannot do a hardware revision to make up for it. It is possible.

Also, its not entirely obvious a new iPhone is coming out in June/July but it is highly expected, thus the observation by MR.

Why would you read something you thought was written by a dumb monkey--unless of course it was written by a dumb monkey--which would make it all the more interesting.

Start your own GENIUS Apple Rumors site!

That was a very insulting post, shame on the person who wrote it.

 

[Powerbooky]

New phone will need huge update for me to buy it. Like this

5 MP+ camera with flash & zoom
At least 256 ram
Record HD video 720p
Run background apps
8+hour battery life
32GB+ flash drive
Sync via Bluetooth

Make this apple

I could do without the camera though, especially if that would result in 24+hr battery life (2 weeks standby with few calls). 64GB+ flash and Sync through whatever connection is available (Bt, wifi, gsm). Oh... wifi at 5GHz!

Plus and most important I think... not chained to one greedy telecom company. Those iPhones would sell like crazy then.

 

[8CoreWhore]

At what point in a 2 year contract does ATT consider one upgradeable? I bought the iPhone 3G the day it came out - I'd sign another 2 year contract for the next iPhone this summer.

 

[3282868]

[sarc] As an iPhone 2G owner this really really really PISSES me off. It's completely unfair of Apple to add video to new hardware and not retroactively add it to older models. I'm just outraged. [/sarc]

lol true dat... However, as Jailbroken iPhone 2G and 3G units have successful video recording applications, I do not understand why Apple is claiming it is a hardware limitation - unless they mean H264 or such video capabilities.

 

[Stewie86]

New phone will need huge update for me to buy it. Like this

5 MP+ camera with flash & zoom
At least 256 ram
Record HD video 720p
Run background apps
8+hour battery life
32GB+ flash drive
Sync via Bluetooth

Make this apple

OK, I don't like to start unfounded rumors, but now we have some pretty solid facts. What I'm talking about is, of course, that the next iPhone, also known as iPhone2,1 will probably have video recording capabilities.

And here are the facts:

1. While many usual criticisms of the iPhone (lack of copy&paste, MMS, Bluetooth) were addressed in the OS 3.0 preview, there was no word about video recording. This might be a clue that this feature will be exclusive to the new iPhone.

2. Ars reported that the OS 3.0 beta contains references to an unknown device with AAC encoding capabilities. AAC is an audio compression standard commonly used in MP4 files together with H.264 video.

3. While this might be purely an error, there's a Publish Video screen in the latest beta.

4. One of the new features briefly mentioned in the keynote was YouTube account support. Of course, it can be useful to sync your bookmarks and subscriptions, but I suspect this is mainly to enable uploading video straight to YouTube.

All the evidence above suggests that the next iPhone will be able to shoot video.

Now, I might be wrong, but I think that it will have the following features:

• 3.2 MP camera with autofocus
• Video recording in 720x480 widescreen resolution, 30 fps (DVD quality)
• H.264 video and AAC audio
• Uploading to YouTube and MobileMe directly from the device
• 16 GB and 32 GB models

Most likely the reason Apple didn't enable video in the existing models is that it's not up to their standards. For example, Cycorder can record only at 384x288 pixels and up to 15 fps, using MJPEG compression.

I like these facts and wishlists. I have my own (link is on signature). Everything on my wishlist is pretty much answered except for larger GB size, slimmer frame and more MP camera.

 

[B2k1977]

I'm really hoping for 32GB storage, two cameras (front and back) with at least 2.3 megapixels and 720x480 video. Oh, and LED flash (if it were possible for programs to turn on the LED flash as a mini-flashlight like many Japanese phones, even better).

More RAM and additional processing power would be great, but I feel like I'd be satisfied without the background processes. Still, if they manage to add these things as well and hit total feature superiority over the Pre, that'd be pretty awesome.

32GB? Please, give us some real storage. I want 64. Apple is selling 256mb ssd's for macbooks, no reason why the tech isn't there to put 64gb in an iphone/touch

 

[diamond.g]

32GB? Please, give us some real storage. I want 64. Apple is selling 256mb ssd's for macbooks, no reason why the tech isn't there to put 64gb in an iphone/touch

Sure there is. The iPhone only has 1 chip for the storage. Most SSDs have at least 8. Because Apple wants our iPhones to be thin and sexy that is what we have to live with.

 

[audioteknika]

MP doesn't mean tihs for christsake!! Better optic will improve the image quality, even on a 3mp picture.. Gosh.. Sometimes some of you just dont listen..

 

[benlee]

While I don't have the issues with Mac Rumors that I have with some other sites I would hope that I could be free to express displeasure with something MR might have done. The fact that I personally am not alarmed by this report doesn't mean somebody else isn't. Maybe the expression of that Alarm wasn't well done but that is a different issue.

I'm not sure I understood your post entirely but I'm not saying you can't disagree with a MR post. I just found his attack on MR somewhat unwarranted and the fact that he called the fine people that put their time into this site stupid monkeys was somewhat off-putting. That's all.
My point was that I didn't find anything in the main thread post anything that could be characterized as stupid.

That was a very insulting post, shame on the person who wrote it.

I hope you were not talking about my post. I'm not sure what was insulting about my post. If you were talking about the post i was replying to, then I agree, but you probably should have quoted that post.

 

[Slurpy2k8]

[sarc] As an iPhone 2G owner this really really really PISSES me off. It's completely unfair of Apple to add video to new hardware and not retroactively add it to older models. I'm just outraged. [/sarc]

You know, good thing you had those sarc tags there. I've seen that same sentiment expressed seriously hundreds of times since the 3.0 reveal. Amazing how people feel entitled to every new feature that will ever be introduced on any new device ever- on their older phones. Its as if they didnt know what features they were getting when they payed for the damn thing.

Apple didn't even NEED to support the 2G iPhone with this update. Its coming to 2 yrs old. The fact that they did is a bonus, that Im thankful for. I say this as a 2G iPhone owner.

 

[8CoreWhore]

The biggest problem with iPhone and it's photo abilities isn't the lack of flash or it's inability to play movies but rather it is the lack of a mechanical shutter release button. This on little item has a bigger impact on a persons ability to frame any capture an image than just about anything else.
Dave

How does lacking a mechanical button affect framing?

 

[8CoreWhore]

Frig.

I'm *such* a geek.

Arrived at the store in Toronto last May early enough to be first in line to get an iPhone (discounted of course with a 3 year contract)....

...and I frikkin well *know* I'll do something like that this year too, and pay full price for the newest iPhone.....

Geeze. Does it never end...

Sell your iPhone 3G now so you can get a good price, put the sim card in a cheap phone.... when the new iPhone comes out this summer, pay full price (but with the funds from the sale to cover a good portion), put the old sim card in that.

 

[MacVixen]

apple loves people like you! full price of the iphone = the cost of a mac mini.

I'm guessing though that the software upgrade should be able to get you most (if not all) of these features. video recording is definitely within the realm of the iphone's processing capability, as is obviously copy/paste.

Oh yes of course. If the new phone does not have video I will be perfectly happy with my existing phones and all of the new features that are coming. I'm just saying that if the new phone has video, then i would consider paying full price for a new model as I am not eligble to upgrade for another 18 months. Under no other circumstances would I be willing to pay full price, lol.

 

[3282868]

I'm not sure I understood your post entirely but I'm not saying you can't disagree with a MR post. I just found his attack on MR somewhat unwarranted and the fact that he called the fine people that put their time into this site stupid monkeys was somewhat off-putting. That's all.
My point was that I didn't find anything in the main thread post anything that could be characterized as stupid.



I hope you were not talking about my post. I'm not sure what was insulting about my post. If you were talking about the post i was replying to, then I agree, but you probably should have quoted that post.

If you think it's bad here, you should visit AppleInsider. Many of the commentators on there make you wonder if some websites should require age verification. It's downright depressing what the anonymity of the internet does to humanity's lack of respect.

 

[jamest71]

Although I don't use my current phones video...

I hope they do have it in the iPhone 3.0

 

[preservative]

If there is no flash. Can we have an IR camera please?

 

[djjclark]

lol true dat... However, as Jailbroken iPhone 2G and 3G units have successful video recording applications, I do not understand why Apple is claiming it is a hardware limitation - unless they mean H264 or such video capabilities.

What you consider acceptable is not the same as what Apple considers acceptable. A 15 fps pixalated video probably doesnt allow for much marketing.

 

[jholzner]

Apple didn't even NEED to support the 2G iPhone with this update. Its coming to 2 yrs old. The fact that they did is a bonus, that Im thankful for. I say this as a 2G iPhone owner.

I'm not complaining about some features not being supported but Apple was still selling the original iPhone at this time last year and continued to do so through June until the 3G was released. Many people have a first Gen that is less than a year old at this point. I have a first Gen and will upgrade this summer if a new phone is released. I'm fine with that.

 

[8CoreWhore]

Someone else said this. But just because the current iPhone can't effectively run background tasks due to battery doesn't mean that future iPhones will never be able to run background tasks.

arn

I fully expect Apple to have a much better battery in the next iPhone....

 

[thisrocks]

Lol....looking forward to a phone with "8+" hours battery life ..no thank you.


I need my phone to last at least 24 hours. Please Apple. I don't care if it requires turning off 3g, wifi and having the brightness all the way down the bottom but for heaven sakes..BATTERY!!

I don't think I have one good video recorded from my phones...since my first camera phone in 2002...7 years later.... Batteryyyyyyy...at least 2 applications open at a time..if only iTunes!...and a non-laggy interface. Thank you.

 

[alawatsakima]

I hope they give the CPU a good upgrade as of the current iPhone processor is somewhat slow compared to the Palm Pre. YOu can see the Pre is significantly faster on those preview videos. And the webbrowser on the Pre is so fast compared to the iPhone. I hope they build Safari 4 into the iPhone to speed it up.

I feel that MMS is proof that major portions of Safari 4 are already in the iPhone. The protocols required for MMS were not previously in the iphone because the iphone relies heavily on pre-existing technologies Apple had at their disposal. Many of those technologies are now part of the SMIL protocol. Now that SMIL is required in Acid3, and safari passes Acid3, it was only logical that MMS would come next. The fact that MMS is in the iphone means that SMIL is too, QED, iPhone has Safari 4.

Now, with that said, I have not seen any evidence that the expected performance improvements are present (Yet). But it is just a beta. I feel strongly that by the time the release comes, Safari Mobile will be fully Safari 4 complient, and the user will reap the benifits.

 

[michael31986]

apple would not go back to background after they said that push saves battery, they would want to get the most battery out of all the iphones no matter what. EVen if the new iphone can handle it better. why hurt a battery when u can make it last longer.

 

[Goona]

I hope you were not talking about my post. I'm not sure what was insulting about my post. If you were talking about the post i was replying to, then I agree, but you probably should have quoted that post.

My bad, meant the other poster.