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'Upload Video' Screen Suggests Video Capabilities in Next iPhone

Wow, bringing MMS and CCP to the next OS, and then throw in a real hardware Video Camera (not like 15fps Cycorder, which is still great) and I'm getting real stoked for the next iPhone. I've jailbroken my phone mainly for Video, categories and sometime soon expect to use tethering. I'd love to not have to jailbreak as it does make the phone lag more than I like.

BUT... ATT likes to charge for tethering. ATT sucks.
 
w00master said:
Well said DJ88. You can be sure that there will be an upgrade path of some kind for existing customers. It's both in Apple's best interest *and* AT&T.

I know I'll be in line for the next one. :D

w00master
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Exactly. It's not in either company's interest to have tons of upset customers due to not allowing them to upgrade from the 3g phone to the new model at a reduced price. That's what they've previously done, ATT gets a new 2 year contract, and Apple's customers stay happy. Changing that system would create big problems for both companies imo.

Especially considering the types of customers that upgrade Day 1.
 
mjtomlin said:
Same here with AT&T, but I'm still happy with my original iPhone. I don't necessarily feel the need to upgrade just because I can; the hardware would need to be extremely compelling. And besides, by some act of God, Apple may decide to offer the iPhone on another carrier, and I'd rather not be stuck to AT&T for an additional 2 years, if I didn't have to.
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O2 in UK from my point of view doing good job anyway to compare to any other carriers. They got pretty good signal all over UK and trying to get the best cover for 3G too (they should start thinking about 4G; should be standardized by 2014 anyway). Their tariffs are ok'ish; but not rip off so I will stick to them for sure since I have never had any problems with them so far. Plus if you order their broadband you got £5 off every month and seems to be the best quality ( by reviewers) in UK.
One thing which worries me is the day when iPhone will lunch; last time O2 system crushed so hopefully they learn a lesson (NOT).
 
Goona said:
So you've actually used a Pre?
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No, of course I don't have one, no one does. But, there are videos of the Pre browser loading webpages and it's fast. I can say it does seems a lot faster than the current iPhone 3G (it can possibly be the network too).

I love my iPhone big time, and I'm simply saying what I think it can improve on. And hope they do come out with the new and improved iphone, which I will get my hands on it as soon as it comes out. :D
 
The original iPhone seemed to load webpages faster on edge than 3G does in real life when Steve Jobs was doing the demo. You never see that 2 second delay when opening up calender or contacts in the Apple videos either. They optimize the hell out of what they're showing you.
 
I remember last year before the 3G iPhone came out there was a rumor on this site showing patents for a front facing camera and describing how ichat would work.I usually do not comment on this forum, just read.
But this is my prediction:
1. low end iPhone (For those that cannot afford or even want a fully featured iPhone).
2. iPhone Pro - With an abundance of features and possibly the edition of a front facing camera for iChat (Which I think Apple has been waiting to release on previous firmwares , so that they can get it right).
Oddly enough there has not been any tangible rumors running around, but last year it was the same thing. This year might be the same thing.I think something will arise within the next month if not before, to let the rumor mills get blowing full blown.
 
There may never be camera flash on iPhones

I don't think the iPhone will have a flash.

Why?

Because - they're just opened up the connector and the phone via Bluetooth.

This phone, can now wirelessly interact with a slaved flash.
This is pretty useful, as having the flash not physically attached to the camera can give you options.

There was no typo about video - since when did photos get titles and descriptions? Don't see it on my camera roll currently - iPhoto 09 didn't show that. But iLife didn't deal with video being geo-tagged.

Awesome potential would be for iPhoto's facial recognition to be run through every frame of a video, to then ID people in the background. Would be intensive computationally, but doable.

With the voice recorder showing that it can edit - it's possible the video option will do on-phone editing too. Or maybe they'll leave that for another day - but if they're bringing video, why not?

To Youtube, to MobileMe. To sync with iTunes.
 
MacVixen said:
I will be THRILLED if the next phone has video recording! I only bought my phone in November but if video along with these other great features are on the new phone, then it may be worth it to me to pay full price :)eek:) for the newest model
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And that's why Apple has the big bucks, kids!


Haha, a total hypocritical thing for me to say, actually. I bought my first iPhone last year (3G) on launch day, hope to do the same for this one.
 
Rychiar said:
then how could my verizon LG phone circa 2004 handle video perfectly fine? Were not askin for HD movies. I just want a basic 15 sec clip ******** kinda video recorder for mms like most phones :rolleyes:
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reubs said:
Exactly. To be able to pull out the phone to take pics of the kids doing something funny or a quick commentary on a ridiculous bumper sticker or something would be great. I don't need to shoot a feature film on an iPhone.
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You just addressed the problem. Apple DOESN'T want a bullshee video recorder- It wants to put on the real shabang. You get me? Not motion picture quality, but something above the rest. That's why they've never released video over the years- because the quality's just too crappy to bear. You could agree that Apple crippled the iPhone.





ghettochris said:
if you look at the video off most phones on youtube it sucks. That combined with the potential life shortening or flash memory that is too slow to properly record, I see no problem with apple not offering it. If you really need it, jailbreak and enjoy the low quality and potentially harming your iphone long term if you use it a lot. While that is unlikely, just a possibility of that prevents product wide rollout, especially when you know some tool is going to record lots of long videos each day. Just because your jailbreak phone can do it doesn't mean apple can roll it out for everyone without looking like d-bags that were just cramming buggy features in the phone.

As far as a new camera, my first point and shoot was 2mp and took great pictures, i'd rather see improved optics and 2 mp camera than another 5 mp phone. the sensor only has to be 1mp to do 720p hd video, 2mp can do 1080p but I doubt it can process and store that kind of data.
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Precisely. :)
 
michael31986 said:
apple would not go back to background after they said that push saves battery, they would want to get the most battery out of all the iphones no matter what. EVen if the new iphone can handle it better. why hurt a battery when u can make it last longer.
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If I remember they said they tried it on the iPhone and it got horrible results. That doesn't mean that can't optimize a new hardware/software integration. I for one don't think this will happen in 3.0 but it is possible.

I read a comment somewhere that ways saying how Apple is in a way training us with the iPhone. Getting used to the additional gestures and overall experience. I like that approach to thinking about it.

People will complain that this or that should have been in 1st Generation. But the fact of the matter this is a learning experience for Apple. Sure, they make decisions that we as consumers don't want them to make. But we must understand that they are also a business.

Anyways, back on topic. Apple wants to reinvent. They don't want to be a razor, with video that you can hardly make out who the people are or what they are saying. So they leave it out, cut costs and stand out where when it matters. They set the bar once and they set it high. After seeing this, I'm thinking we are going to see a "iPhone Video"--main feature is going to be a high quality video recording camera (most likely a front facing Camera so you can send Video Messages in the new Messages App). Uploading to Youtube and Mobileme...that would be the selling point, with better hardware so your phone runs even faster.

What is the New York and Chicago thing?
 
t0mat0 said:
I don't think the iPhone will have a flash.

Why?

Because - they're just opened up the connector and the phone via Bluetooth.

This phone, can now wirelessly interact with a slaved flash.
This is pretty useful, as having the flash not physically attached to the camera can give you options.
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I don't know about you but I would have saved that pocket space for a real stand-alone camera instead of lugging around a slave flash. If you are concerned about picture quality, I would suggest looking elsewhere.
 
All of it makes sense. New hardware will address the issues that have kept the iPhone from producing video today. Apple has a lot more to say about iPhone software than hardware.
 
So, hopefully the new iPhone can do video, but I forgot about the accessory via the dock connector option now. Someone could make a very decent optic camera that is tethered into the iPhone for storage, complete with real optical zoom and a decent stereo mic. Then, you don't have to rely on a 1/8" plastic lens to capture the video.

Someone mentioned a flash - you could just make a dock-plug sized flash that syncs to the camera - full power awesome brightness flash.

Someone's bound to make a box for High performance cars where you can tune and adjust your motor via a dock connector interface and an iPhone app.

Man... with that connector, the possibilities are endless.
 
Tussen69 said:
the next iPhone wont have background processing. Its more important to save any power for longer standby-time .. background processing wont happen . period. but video will ...
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BenRoethig said:
Video (and a better camera with flash) would make me very happy.
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I have been predicting this for a while now and restated after the 3.0 announcement that although Apple did not announce video, the new iPhone will do video.

It will have a better camera and probably a flash, but the bigger improvement will be the camera software, with auto focus etc.

Background will NOT happen. Did you people not see the presentation Tuesday? The new iPhone will have a better high tech MacBook Pro style battery but it will need it because of the new CPU and GPU chips etc.

My hope is that it will also finally get the front camera and iChat, but I am not holding my breath.
 
Most ridiculous suggestions in this post:

1) An iPhone released in June 09 with a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor. There hasn't even been a phone released on the market with a (single-core) Cortex-A8, which is pretty much a full generation back from the A9. Not to mention dual-core A9 silicon is not even in production from any manufacturer.

2) More ridiculous is the idea that the iPhone would require a dual-core processor to record video! My 4 yr old POS phone can record video! This was clearly an intentional decision on Apples part not to include the feature on the current iPhone 3G.
 
Donz0r said:
Battery life refers to TALK TIME. that's what he means by 8+ hours. And that will not happen this summer. Maybe 6-7 though
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Good to hear. I have a friend who's iPhone 3g can't last more than 4 hours. He needs a new battery but can't be fagged dealing with Apple to go through the whole process.

Would be another great feature of the new iPhone...self replaceable batteries. That's one feature I've found the most useful with all of my phones. When the phone dies. Just take the battery out and it resets beautifully.
 
zakfox1986 said:
Another thing that is interesting is Apple's added YouTube features for the iPhone 3.0 OS. They've added subscriptions, user profiles, and maybe one or two other things (?) to iPhone 3.0 OS. That along with the ESPN app video feature that was announced on Tuesday, definitely makes you think that iPhone 3.0 could easily have more video features in store, when coupled with new hardware (iPhone 3).

If they added those couple features to the YouTube app, I'd have to ask if direct YT video upload will be added for iPhone 3 hardware. It's interesting that they're beefing up the YT app in general, along with this screenshot hinting (?) at MobileMe video upload.
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Good point and very interesting.

nathanj.massey said:
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Apple today announced the next generation of it's popular iPhone mobile handset at it's annual WWDC developers conference. The new device dubbed 'iPhone Video', was unveiled by Apple CEO Steve Jobs (his first appearance after a 6-month leave of absence on medical grounds) at the conferences keynote presentation.

The device features both a high resolution 5 mega-pixel camera for taking photos and video, and a smaller front-facing 2 mega-pixel camera for video-calls to both other phones and computers (using the included iChat Mobile software).

Also included is the 'Photo Booth' software that has become popular on it's desktop and laptop products, and a application titled 'Barcode' that can scan product barcodes using the new high resolution camera, and find online retailers selling that product (comparing the prices between them).

The new iPhone comes in both 16GB and 32GB models, and also features a more powerful CPU and GPU, which will allow developers to create better games and applications for the device.

The launch of the new iPhone Video also brings with it the general release of the iPhone 3.0 software which allows users to connect their laptop the Internet via tethering and use the iPhone as a satellite navigation device, by downloading a application from TomTom, who showcased their software during the keynote.
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Sounds good to me! :D

3goldens said:
love the thought of new hardware, but before this one is even a year old?

Kinda screws those att customers who would want to upgrade right away.

whatever, make money spend money, make products buy products......
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I can't imagine they would upgrade from the first version to the 3G within a year and then wait another 2 years before upgrading from 3G to whatever's next, WWDC '10? Nah, we'll more than likely see something this time around.

Now will it be what everyone's been DREAMING of? That could be hit or miss.

Doesn't really matter to me as I'm waiting to see what's coming in June and I'll be purchasing my first iPhone shortly thereafter, even if it's the current model. There's not much that can ruin my excitement. :D

iMacoo7 said:
I remember last year before the 3G iPhone came out there was a rumor on this site showing patents for a front facing camera and describing how ichat would work.I usually do not comment on this forum, just read.
But this is my prediction:
1. low end iPhone (For those that cannot afford or even want a fully featured iPhone).
2. iPhone Pro - With an abundance of features and possibly the edition of a front facing camera for iChat (Which I think Apple has been waiting to release on previous firmwares , so that they can get it right).
Oddly enough there has not been any tangible rumors running around, but last year it was the same thing. This year might be the same thing.I think something will arise within the next month if not before, to let the rumor mills get blowing full blown.
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Oh dear Lord, yes, I remember rumor after rumor of the front facing camera last year, seems it's never gonna die! LoL.

A lot of folks don't believe we'll see one because video-chat isnt' up to speed yet but how about this, if a new front facing camera was introduced on the next model, who's to say it would only have to be used for video "chat"? It could be used simply for recording some video of yourself for upload to youtube, mobileme or whatever. Ya know, if your gonna stream to Qik or something like that or just record, let's say, a little virtual tour of your house with 'you' as the host (haha), you're gonna wanna see yourself on the screen to make sure your in the shot...etc for things like that. Unless they are gonna put one of those mirror bubbles by the cam on the back so you can half-@ss see yourself in the frame.

Anyways....we'll see.

t0mat0 said:
I don't think the iPhone will have a flash.

Why?

Because - they're just opened up the connector and the phone via Bluetooth.

This phone, can now wirelessly interact with a slaved flash.
This is pretty useful, as having the flash not physically attached to the camera can give you options.

There was no typo about video - since when did photos get titles and descriptions? Don't see it on my camera roll currently - iPhoto 09 didn't show that. But iLife didn't deal with video being geo-tagged.

Awesome potential would be for iPhoto's facial recognition to be run through every frame of a video, to then ID people in the background. Would be intensive computationally, but doable.

With the voice recorder showing that it can edit - it's possible the video option will do on-phone editing too. Or maybe they'll leave that for another day - but if they're bringing video, why not?

To Youtube, to MobileMe. To sync with iTunes.
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As always, good post by t0mat0.
 
All phones from this point on must have multi tasking. I mean we are basically trying to create as experience as close to that on a desktop PC. Imagine using windows without alt-tab because theres nothing to alt-tab to.
 
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