I don´t think iPhone 2.0 owners should be thankful that Apple made OS 3.0 available to them too. I really think it´s a given. The only reason why they would not get 3.0 would be if the hardware is not capable of running the software. Any other case would just mean Apple witholding software in order to sell new hardware, which is what they might try to do with the video capability feature. I for one would find that very disturbing. I have not even had my iPhone 3G for 12 months, so I think it would be way too early for a new model to be introduced....
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But ALL cell phone makers release new models on a continuous basis. I'm not sure why it would be so horrible if Apple did release an iPhoneVideo - I just bought my 3G less than 6 months ago, but I understand that my new tech purchases become outdated fairly quickly. I bought my MBP in November 2007 and of course new models were released in February 08 - oh well. It just happens like that sometimes.
Based upon usage of my Blackberry Curve and Motorola Q prior to that, I disagree. Indoor pictures are most definitely better with the flash, provided that you're within a decent range. Flash should be optional, but then again I've yet to see a camera phone that made flash mandatory.
I think it would be so terrible because the iPhone, more than any other phone in the market, relies heavily on the wonderful OS running on it. This has enabled people to make of the iPhone whatever they want with the appstore apps for example. This has never happened to any phone before. So now Apple has the great opportunity of providing software updates which can radically change the iPhone capabilities, without the need of an hardware upgrade. I would certainly welcome a new iPhone hardware, whenever new features will require it, but I certainly do not believe video recording is one of those features. It is already done by third party apps, so the current iPhone could run it no problem...
Never understood...
I've never understood this logic. I did "dive" in 18 months ago and couldn't have been happier with my experience using the iPhone all this time. So it didn't have MMS, video recording, A2DP bluetooth support, but neither did the phone I had before. And besides that, just the pleasure of using a mobile device that was actually usable was well worth the price. The reason for buying the iPhone was to replace my cell phone, iPod and laptop (for internet use) and the iPhone was more than capable, especially after the App Store opened; now I use my "cell phone" for stuff I never would've guessed it could be used for. When the contract runs out on this phone in 6 months, I'll upgrade to a newer model.
I've never understood this logic. I did "dive" in 18 months ago and couldn't have been happier with my experience using the iPhone all this time. So it didn't have MMS, video recording, A2DP bluetooth support, but neither did the phone I had before. And besides that, just the pleasure of using a mobile device that was actually usable was well worth the price. The reason for buying the iPhone was to replace my cell phone, iPod and laptop (for internet use) and the iPhone was more than capable, especially after the App Store opened; now I use my "cell phone" for stuff I never would've guessed it could be used for. When the contract runs out on this phone in 6 months, I'll upgrade to a newer model.
Battery life refers to TALK TIME. that's what he means by 8+ hours. And that will not happen this summer. Maybe 6-7 though
i expect them to take the battery technology from the 17" macbook pro and apply it to the iphone. add more ram and you have background apps.
the only thing that worries me is that apple seemed really emphatic about not having background apps. hopefully they are talking about current generation harware.
Well, there are features of the new OS that won't work on the original iPhone, but Apple still offers the upgrade to us. Apple has always stopped supporting certain hardware, even though they may be capable of making it work, especially if they determine that hardware will hold back the platform and keep it from moving forward.
The video recording on current models of the iPhone is awful, just look at any jailbroken iPhone. Apple would be wise to limit video recording to devices that can truly support it at a respectable quality; at full iPhone resolution. Take iChat video, Apple didn't release anything until they could make it work at full screen, meanwhile all other video chatting applications had postage stamp size images or got really jerky and blocky when you tried to make it larger. Being capable isn't enough when the experience is total crap.
That's not the attitude! Far too reasonable
It seems people forget that Apple are out to make money... if they release a new phone every year, great. That's less than Nokia and SE. If they just waited until every 24 or 18 month contract was over, people would sit out the 2 month lead-up times. As it stands we don't know when the next is coming. It's all good. I prefer my MBP to the new ones... I might prefer the 3G to the next iPhone.
Why should it be a given, when you buy a new mac and they bring out a new
OS, should you be given the new OS for free?
Explain to me then (since Apple does *NOT* give app writers full access to the camera), how normal camera users, like myself, can take pictures at a restaurant with my friends where the environment has low light? Right now, if I try, I get nothing: complete BLACK.
Explain to me how a flash wouldn't help?
Again, app writers cannot write a camera app where the user can control fstops, shutter speeds, etc.
w00master
Dont know what is the story in US but here in UK with O2 you can just upgrade anytime by simply extending your existing contract for next 18 months and pay full price for iPhone. Thats what I am planning to do anyway in june/july. Old 3G iPhone I will pass to my wife.
Someone else on another board mentioned this...
He felt Apple will hold back multitasking until they get their developers to support the Push Notification System. Once that happens, then they may slowly allow 3rd party applications to run in the background.
Whether the application is open or not, you'll still be able to receive notifications. Why is this a big deal? Imagine you "subscribe" to about ten different services that you need to stay up-to-date on... without PNS, you'll need to have all those services open and running in the background. Apple's PNS will offer a much more elegant method of handling notifications... you can "subscribe" to 100 different services and not need to have a single application running in the background and you'll still receive message and updates.
Now, once you have the PNS service available for developers to use and they all get used to it, you can start to allow 3rd party applications to run in the background that truly need to continue processing while in the background, such as web browser, music streaming, etc...
This also happens to be Apple's M.O. of how they direct users and developers into a certain direction.
Now I can see video recording and new hardware iPhone. Especially after announcement of personalized youtube accounts. Is obvious that you could use that for recording and uploading short movies straight to your youtube account.
Also after officials pattents of front camera hiden behind screen it will be iChat AV there too. Well...I would call next iPhone ...an IPHONE AV
Also after officials pattents of front camera hiden behind screen it will be iChat AV there too. Well...I would call next iPhone ...an IPHONE AV
Dont know what is the story in US but here in UK with O2 you can just upgrade anytime by simply extending your existing contract for next 18 months and pay full price for iPhone. Thats what I am planning to do anyway in june/july. Old 3G iPhone I will pass to my wife.
Same here with AT&T, but I'm still happy with my original iPhone. I don't necessarily feel the need to upgrade just because I can; the hardware would need to be extremely compelling. And besides, by some act of God, Apple may decide to offer the iPhone on another carrier, and I'd rather not be stuck to AT&T for an additional 2 years, if I didn't have to.
love the thought of new hardware, but before this one is even a year old?
Kinda screws those att customers who would want to upgrade right away.
whatever, make money spend money, make products buy products......
Kinda screws those att customers who would want to upgrade right away.
whatever, make money spend money, make products buy products......
You're assuming that is the quality of the video, when in reality it's over 20 fps. It's not fantastic but far from the abysmal quality some claim. Further, if it is simply quality could that not be remedied by proper codecs?
My god does anybody here have memory that goes back further than a year anymore?
The first iPhone was released in June 07 and you had to buy it with a 2 year contract. The iPhone 3G came out before the end of the 2 year contract, but existing iPhone users could still buy the 3G at the low prices by extending their, by then, 1 year contract another 2 years.
If a new iPhone comes out this summer, they'll do the exact same thing, no one gets screwed.
hopefully it happens like this. the main problem i foresee is if you have 100 different services giving you notifications they had better come up with something better than the alert screen. otherwise you'll be getting pop-ups all day long (it'll be like you hit a xxx site). i would like to see something like what android or the pre does.
with the pns all i want from a background app is the ability to stream radio. that's all.
My god does anybody here have memory that goes back further than a year anymore?
The first iPhone was released in June 07 and you had to buy it with a 2 year contract. The iPhone 3G came out before the end of the 2 year contract, but existing iPhone users could still buy the 3G at the low prices by extending their, by then, 1 year contract another 2 years.
If a new iPhone comes out this summer, they'll do the exact same thing, no one gets screwed.
Well said DJ88. You can be sure that there will be an upgrade path of some kind for existing customers. It's both in Apple's best interest *and* AT&T.
I know I'll be in line for the next one.
w00master
The upgrade path will be that you pay full unsubsidized price, or wait another year for your contract to roll over. ATT were pretty clear that the way they handled it last time was a one-shot deal.Well said DJ88. You can be sure that there will be an upgrade path of some kind for existing customers. It's both in Apple's best interest *and* AT&T.
I know I'll be in line for the next one.
w00master
Well, I know many many original iPhone users who upgrade to the iPhone 3G *with* the subsidized price. The ones who couldn't, I'm betting purchased their original iPhone within 6 months of the iPhone 3G release.
w00master
My god does anybody here have memory that goes back further than a year anymore?
The first iPhone was released in June 07 and you had to buy it with a 2 year contract. The iPhone 3G came out before the end of the 2 year contract, but existing iPhone users could still buy the 3G at the low prices by extending their, by then, 1 year contract another 2 years.
If a new iPhone comes out this summer, they'll do the exact same thing, no one gets screwed.
I think the reason people were allowed to upgrade from the original iphone to the 3g before their contract ran out was because the first iphone sold at full price. The 3g sold at subsidised prices so they will probably be held to that. If your in good standing with AT&T you can upgrade after 18 months on a 2 year contract.