Sorry, the best you’re going to get is corporate welfare for defence contractors and anyone who sucks up to Donny enough.
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US Government May Buy a Stake in Intel
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A decade wouldn’t do it. This is just the direct consequence of the Supreme Court handing the presidency to Bush in 2000.
I’m not a fan of government ownership/investing in private companies. However, there is a massive security concern in computing that needs to be addressed. I need to read more about this to understand it better before I come to a conclusion. But my immediate thoughts are that I’m against it.
Interesting development but I am not sure if that is going to help intel get out of the weeds the dug themselves into.
Keep the government out of everything.
I don't think a single one of them has a clue what socialism actually is... being against Trump is socialist, being vegetarian is "socialist", helping the poor is socialist, helping billionaires and Intel is... MAGA!!!
I'm torn on the idea of government supporting industry... the Chinese have managed to get a reasonable balance in cases... look at EVs... we laughed 10 years ago... now US/EU automakers are looking down the barrel of doom.
This is similar to the Obama admin getting deeply involved in the automakers around 2008. These are bad ideas. It is in our national interest to have local chip development (or European) separate from Taiwan and China. However owning a stake in a company creates too many insane complications and problems to name. It's just a bad idea.
Surely, Trump will lose their support after committing a real, actual act of socialism? 🤦♂️
I dont know whether you are joking but absent the nukes that would be a very very real consideration. Europe and the US west need fab plants all over the world as fast as we can build them to prevent disaster if that happens.
the hillbillies keep sinking. they can't count the overwhelming number of submarines in south east asia. china lierally spent 10billion building replicas of aircraft carriers litterally in the middle of the desert. experimenting with fancy methods of vaporizing it. a silent signal, but a fun one. only one lil island that's the center of the universe right now. they won't let the top talent out, to hillbilly arizona, sunny bunny. the hillbillies will self destruct.
Capitalism, huh?
The Trump administration is in preliminary discussions to acquire an equity stake in former Apple chip supplier Intel, a move aimed at accelerating the company's delayed manufacturing expansion in Ohio (via Bloomberg).
The proposal reportedly emerged following a meeting at the White House between President Donald Trump and Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan. The discussions remain at an early stage, and no agreement has been finalized.
Intel's Ohio project was once touted as the world's largest chipmaking facility, but has since faced repeated delays. Production is now scheduled to begin in the next decade. The company has announced major cost reductions, including a 15% workforce cut and the cancellation of planned factories in Germany and Poland.
Intel was once the exclusive supplier of CPUs for the Mac lineup, and maintained a close relationship with Apple for over a decade. The partnership began in 2006 when Apple transitioned from IBM PowerPC processors to Intel's x86 architecture, a shift that allowed Macs to run Windows and benefit from higher performance-per-watt CPUs. The collaboration quickly phased out starting in 2020, when Apple introduced its own Apple silicon chips, beginning with the M1. By 2023, the transition was complete, and Apple no longer sold any Intel-based Macs.
The proposed government stake in Intel comes at a time when the chipmaker is struggling to regain competitiveness in advanced semiconductor manufacturing. While Apple now designs its chips in-house and manufactures them through TSMC, Intel has sought to reestablish itself as a foundry partner for external clients. Earlier this year, officials reportedly floated the idea of TSMC operating Intel's plants in a joint venture.
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The thing is that there’s a very hard limit on building fabs, which is that critical hardware needed can only be built by one company, ASML, and there’s a limit on how fast those systems can be built.
That would be the definition of anarchy. It's terrible, but it's better than what we're calling government now.
I have to say I’m pretty impressed…
Trump is making such awful moves that it’s getting those of us on the forum who usually disagree about everything….to agree on things!
Trump is bringing unity to Macrumors!
Trump is making such awful moves that it’s getting those of us on the forum who usually disagree about everything….to agree on things!
Trump is bringing unity to Macrumors!
The problem with Intel is really that they cannot keep their existing fabs at or near capacity. X86 has been and will continue to decline in both desktop/mobile as well as server/cloud, thus they have overcapacity today.
And then they have expansion plans (Ohio), and at the same time they are outsourcing their own chips to TSMC.
They do not (yet) have any sizeable customer for their new process, they are kinda cancelling 18A and betting on 14A, which, assuming it yields, would be great, but again, need volume customers to keep the fabs full …
Any funding, whether government or private, will not do anything until that customer problem is solved …
And then they have expansion plans (Ohio), and at the same time they are outsourcing their own chips to TSMC.
They do not (yet) have any sizeable customer for their new process, they are kinda cancelling 18A and betting on 14A, which, assuming it yields, would be great, but again, need volume customers to keep the fabs full …
Any funding, whether government or private, will not do anything until that customer problem is solved …
We might think so but nothing about him and his fanatical supporters makes much sense.
On one hand I don't think we should let Intel fail. On the other, they kinda have it coming, don't they?
considering the government level **** intel is bound up in, this was the expected outcome. honestly, you could compare it to the obama admin bailing out GM.....
We totally should make such a comparison
We totally should make such a comparison
Maybe in method, but in sheer dysfunction, it has a certain Soviet flavour…
If we think about it, it makes sense. With over 70% of the chips being made in Chinese factories, it would be logical to have a US-based solution for national security. Why reinvent the wheel when you can invest in one of the largest and secure it as Made in USA?