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Whatever I wanted to say about the matter, I've already done pages ago.

Many of us would like to use BR as a backup solution just as we do it with DVDs. None of the current workarounds provide a convenient solution to combine the speed, reliability, all-round software support that makes BR possible on a Mac-based environment.

What I'd rather associate with desperation is the urge to prove that Apple Inc's omission of supporting Blu Ray can be justified. Because it cannot.

If I've followed correctly, people have indicated that there is authoring support for Blu-ray right? Does this not include writing data during back ups?

Meanwhile, anything Apple Inc does CAN be justified by whether its in Apple Inc's best business interest. Since none of us are Apple Inc management, we have no idea whats in their best interest. Apple is not here to placate users or even to create the best, most complete products. They are here to make a profit. What CAN'T be justified is Apple NOT nickel-and-diming consumers for 720p downloads if there is a market that will go for it. Additionally, its unjustifiable that Apple would include a technology in its product matrix that wouldn't contribute enough to the bottom line to offset the cost, according to Apple Inc's standards, not forum thread CEO's.

In the end, Apple is a for-profit corporation, ultimately justified by their balance sheet, income statement, and stock price. (None of which are currently a bag of hurt.)
 
Many of us would like to use BR as a backup solution just as we do it with DVDs. None of the current workarounds provide a convenient solution to combine the speed, reliability, all-round software support that makes BR possible on a Mac-based environment.

What's so inconvenient about having an external drive if you've got a MacBook/iMac?

For people with Mac Pros, theres this: http://www.mcetech.com/blu-ray/

One way or another, you just need to plug it in - and it just works. I can't imagine sweating blood just to do that.

And you just use Toast Titanium to burn your data blu-ray discs.

I'm sure everyone already uses Toast Titanium as well?

So what's the big deal?
 
Yay! Yet again a new FireWire port that is incompatible with everything!

I want Apple to bring back FireWire 400: Digital medium format cameras, pro camcorders and tape decks all use 400. Having to use an expensive adapter for everything is a pain, and finding out that your entire university is filled with macs but you can't download the pictures from the medium format camera because you forgot your freaking adapter at home makes me really angry!
Hmm I got my adapters for less than 20 bucks each.
 
What's so inconvenient about having an external drive if you've got a MacBook/iMac?

For people with Mac Pros, theres this: http://www.mcetech.com/blu-ray/

One way or another, you just need to plug it in - and it just works. I can't imagine sweating blood just to do that.

And you just use Toast Titanium to burn your data blu-ray discs.

I'm sure everyone already uses Toast Titanium as well?

So what's the big deal?

There is no way to watch Blu Ray movies in Mac OS.
Apple have not built the software and nobody else has or appears to be interested in it.
 
In the end, Apple is a for-profit corporation, ultimately justified by their balance sheet, income statement, and stock price. (None of which are currently a bag of hurt.)

Well said, this covers it's all. Blu-Ray will never be added because it's hurting their own business. It's simple as that and same is valid for Flash on iPhone. They don't care about what some consumers want. They want to make maximum profits. They are no different than any other company like Microsoft, Dell, HP or Acer. Only difference is that unlike other hardware manufacturers they are also in the content business. And damn, these interests might bite each other.
 
There is no way to watch Blu Ray movies in Mac OS.
Apple have not built the software and nobody else has or appears to be interested in it.

We've already gone over that, and I wasn't even responding to that issue.

(Even if you can't watch them on Mac OS X so easily, you can still back them up fine)
 
I just love the mysterious ways of Apple. Adding FW 32, a standard that almost no device uses (at least I can't find them, surely not for the consumermarket). Could make sense for the MacPro but for the iMac???

And then the stubbornness of not adding BluRay. Say what you want but at this moment nothing even comes close in terms of quality of video and audio. Sure you can download 1080 movies but it takes a loooong time, a very, very good broadband connection. It's typically Apple, if they can't make a profit with it they won't use it.

I still like Apple products a lot and Steve did a great job for Apple but it's time he retires. Without Steve I'm pretty sure the Macs would be awesome today (after he got them on track) and they would be over that 10% marketshare already.

Trust me, Acer, HP and all the rest of them aren't going to include Blu-Ray if they don't make a profit either.
 
No kidding. I had been waiting for an iPhone4 for months...when it was oringally released I opted to wait a few weeks to make sure there were no issues...and what do you know...it is full of problems - all things that Apple either refuses to acknowledge or says are a non issue. I love the design but also want things like a mobile hot-spot, more memory than 32 Gb, the ability to hook up to a TV or other monitor via HDMI and of course to hold it any way I choose...so I am left thinking that maybe I should get a DroidX.

Apple has limited themselves by hitching their wagon to AT&T. I think the mobile hotspot could have easily been incorporated but AT&T didn't want the iPhone to hurt iPad 3G sales or overwhelm their already strained network...so the iPhone gets screwed there. As far as memory...it is anyone's guess why we are still limited to 32 gb.

I see some of the similar issues plaguing the iMac. I want a blu-ray capable drive. At this point...unlike the iPhone4 I still see myself getting the next generation iMac when it is finally released. By the way - I appreciate all the field testers that have helped Apple find out all the crappy issues they have going on with the iPhone4 and first generation 27" iMac. Will make my purchasing decision easier.

Why do you want to hook up over HDMI if it only outputs 960 x 640, ie: VGA resolution?

The Droid X only can get up to 32gb aswell remember. That's the maximum memory card size it will take.

But it sounds like you want a Droid X. I'd advise for you to buy one of them if you want it. If not, see how this press conference goes today, and if you are still not satisfied look elsewhere.
 
So makeMKV's stream feature and my signature are a mass hallucination?

That's a workaround that might work. Some Blu-ray discs won't play for me and the quality is not always that good. About 80% of my discs play fine though. Not as elegant as putting a disc in your mac and play the movie.
 
Trust me, Acer, HP and all the rest of them aren't going to include Blu-Ray if they don't make a profit either.

In the PC OEM world, they have to compete based on spec sheets and prices. Since they all run windows they cant really compete on things like software. BluRay makes them perceived as better, even if the person buying it wont even use it.


That's a workaround that might work. Some Blu-ray discs won't play for me and the quality is not always that good. About 80% of my discs play fine though. Not as elegant as putting a disc in your mac and play the movie.

I'm considering making a script or a VLC plugin, that connects the two together without the user noticing.

Sell it for bucks!
 
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10456593/
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We didn’t think we’d do well in the cellphone business.
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I’m not convinced people want to watch movies on a tiny little screen."

This is what now makes Apple Apple. "You don't need that feature until we offer it and then you need it more than anything else."
MMS, copy&paste, multitasking, (front) camera, good reception, etc...

Good reminder that Steve Jobs isn't always right...and in fact often as you say - dictates what we need. Don't forget that he has also indicated we don't need Flash on our mobile devices. Also on the first couple of generations of iPhone it was decided that you didn't need to be able to record video.

As to the Blu-Ray issue. The market data shows that blu-ray is off to a strong start and is gaining a market penetration faster than DVD did back in its infancy. To those that say they don't see the point of blu-ray and are satisfied with DVD - clearly they either 1) don't have a 1080P TV and 2) don't have a high end home theater/audio system. I am running a 7.1 surround set up on Definitive speakers and the lossless audio on blu-ray makes it worth it. When you download high definition content you aren't getting the lossless audio. Granted - on an iMac or other computer you don't have a high end surround sound set up - but if you had a MacMini hooked up to your home theater set up...you might.

Either way - Jobs is mistaken here (just like Flash and the first couple generations of iPhone lacking MMS, video recording, cut and paste, multitasking, etc. and the current iPhone lacking a Wi-Fi hot spot option) and needs to see the opportunity to not just offer the best looking devices with the most downloadable applications - but the best featured ones as well.

The Mac and iPhone platforms could be (and arguably should be given their premium price) the best featured technology products on the market. A $4,000 Mac Pro computer should have no excuses just like a $3,000 iMac. To be a no excuses computer - they need to offer blu-ray drives.

Same goes for the iPhone/iPad. To be a no excuses mobile product they need to support Flash and offer wi-fi hot spot functionality - AT&T be damned. Android devices will soon offer a similar number of applications and Apple will no longer have that advantage over their fastest growing competitors.
 
Why do you want to hook up over HDMI if it only outputs 960 x 640, ie: VGA resolution?

The Droid X only can get up to 32gb aswell remember. That's the maximum memory card size it will take.

But it sounds like you want a Droid X. I'd advise for you to buy one of them if you want it. If not, see how this press conference goes today, and if you are still not satisfied look elsewhere.

The Droid X can play back 720P resolution over the HDMI out put - not bad for a home movie off your phone.

As to the memory...the phone has 8gb of internal memory which can be supplemented by either a 16 bg or 32 gb microsd card. That means the phone has either 24gb or 40 gb of storage if my math is correct.

As to a smart phone purchase...I have been waiting for weeks to see what Apple is going to do with the iP4. I won't make a decision until 1) I see what Jobs has to say and 2) to see how the "fix" proposed (whatever that may be hardware or software) helps the issue.
 
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