USB 3.0 and Faster FireWire in Next Mac Pro, iMac?

[Sweetfeld28]

Its good to see that Apple isn't going to let USB speeds surpass FireWire by to much. I love FireWire, I just hope they come to their senses and use the 3200 spec.

BluRay on the other hand, is not a big loss. I still only have a hand full of friends that even have a BluRay player. It seems I know a lot more people who are streaming HD, than actually renting, or buying BluRays.

 

[fearoftigers]

Will Mac Pro have Sandy Bridge?

 

[kernkraft]

MakeMKV....
MakeMKV....
MakeMKV....
MakeMKV....
MakeMKV....

Oh yea, did I mention?
MakeMKV....

And what was that one other people mentioned?
MakeMKV....

OH right...

Maybe... I don't know...

MakeMKV?

Or he read my reply quote.



MAKEMKV Damn you read! I know its easier to just ignore me but that still isn't an excuse.

OK, so explain this MKV thing...

First, get a Mac. What's next?


What you are suggesting is not a solution - it's an annoying and time-consuming workaround a problem that shouldn't be there in the first place. Besides, spending hours of converting one format into another (on Windows, I suppose) is not "using BR on a Mac".

So, which Mac of mine should I use:

-2.53GHz 15" MBP
-2.53GHz 13" MBP
-1.6GHz first gen MBA

-1.25GHz eMac (2x)
-old 12" PowerBook (not booting up)

I suppose, it's just a simple matter of attaching an external BR drive onto my computer and off I go...

 

[MorphingDragon]

BluRay on the other hand, is not a big loss. I still only have a hand full of friends that even have a BluRay player. It seems I know a lot more people who are streaming HD, than actually renting, or buying BluRays.

Anecdotes mean jack ****.

 

[Lord Vader]

Originally Posted by kernkraft
Maybe you should follow him, the two of you could form a club with other people who put Apple Inc's corporate interest above their own intelligence and self-respect.

Look who's talking about intelligence and self-respect.

 

[MorphingDragon]

OK, so explain this MKV thing...

First, get a Mac. What's next?


What you are suggesting is not a solution - it's an annoying and time-consuming workaround a problem that shouldn't be there in the first place. Besides, spending hours of converting one format into another (on Windows, I suppose) is not "using BR on a Mac".

So, which Mac of mine should I use:

-2.53GHz 15" MBP
-2.53GHz 13" MBP
-1.6GHz first gen MBA

-1.25GHz eMac (2x)
-old 12" PowerBook (not booting up)

I suppose, it's just a simple matter of attaching an external BR drive onto my computer and off I go...

Umm, how is that any different to windows for ripping BDs?

Windows:
Buy drive, install drive, download software, RIP!

Mac OSX:
Buy drive, install drive, download software, RIP!

MakeMKV is Windows and Mac OSX software. Why don't you look at it before spouting more uninformed BS? I'm not going to explain something that you can:

A, Look up yourself
B, Should've looked up yourself already.

http://www.makemkv.com/

 

[Manzanito]

Look who's talking about intelligence and self-respect.

Previously you posted that bluray is a bag of hurt and I asked if you could please explain why. Maybe you overlooked my post, so I'll ask you again.

Why do you consider the possibility of playing back blu ray discs on a Mac a bag of hurt?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Manzanito]

Umm, how is that any different to windows for ripping BDs?

Buy drive, install drive, download software, RIP!

Ripping may be similar.

Playing, on the other hand... I guess that's his/her point.

 

[adztaylor]

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It is a massive waste to have such a beautiful display and not have bluray.

 

[mk_in_mke]

Who needs Blue Ray Anyways?

Movies:
Who needs Blue Ray Support when you can download HD movies?

Backup:
Who needs Blue Ray when you can archive 100's GB on a very cheap portable HD?

This is in my opinion a fake claim (by those who want it) and a weak marketing argument (by those who sell it in their machine HP, Sony, Dell...)

I am certainly wrong for a lot of you on the forum... Just expressing my opinion

 

[kernkraft]

Round and round, like a Blu Ray disk...

kernkraft is on my ignore list. Don't waste your time.

Look who's talking about intelligence and self-respect.

Do the right thing and stick to your lie. You claimed that I was on your ignore list, meaning that you cannot see my posts. Is that right?

Previously you posted that bluray is a bag of hurt and I asked if you could please explain why. Maybe you overlooked my post, so I'll ask you again.

Why do you consider the possibility of playing back blu ray discs on a Mac a bag of hurt?

Thanks in advance.

Don't worry, I asked him the same thing a few times, but it's like talking to:
- the wall
- the hand
- a parrot
- a horse.

Select the right one depending on which part of the World you are in. He might reply that BR is a bag of hurt.

 

[NetScheduler]

Makes no sense, because after all bluray is a bag of hurt.

Oh My.. You've quoted Steve Jobs twice in one thread. You're a real "Big Boy" Apple fanboy aren't you???? I bet you have a really elegant and delicious Mac too, don't you?

Keep skating to where the puck is going to be!!! I'm sure everyone is impressed with you!

 

[Sweetfeld28]

LightPeak may turn out to be the answer...

I agree. It looks to me like it is the future...

Light Peak Demo

 

[50548]

Aw, how cute.

Does Polly want a cracker?

You may give me a cracker as well; Blu-Ray is, as exhaustively explained before, a ridiculous DRM-ridden technology that brings only marginal gains when compared to normal DVDs.

In proportion, very few people own it, and nobody cares...it's almost sad to see how much they are trying to push it, while DVDs continue to represent over 95% of worldwide sales of physical media. In other words, just another example of too little, too late.

Apple is dead right on this one.

MS IS DEAD. AND SO IS DELL.

 

[Lord Vader]

Why do you consider the possibility of playing back blu ray discs on a Mac a bag of hurt?
.

There are no bluray movies to buy or rent where i live. All bluray movies and tv shows i have came from places like ebay and amazon. I don't like optical media in general and barely use superdrive on my iMac and previous PCs i had. I don't want to pay more for hardware i don't use. As i said before i buy blurays only if movie or tv show is very good (IMO) and i ript it anyway for use on WD TV HD (quality is great for my needs). I'm not quality freak running like crazy with magnifying glass.

 

[MacMan67]

no blu-ray, no sale.

how can someone justify getting a 27 inch top of the line iMac and not able to legitimately buy and watch 1080P movies??

hmm, I watch 1080p movies on my iMac... ??? Just not on Blu Ray... I also stream them to my LG390 Blu Ray player on my 60 inch plasma from my NAS on my home network... no need to have a blu ray drive to achieve that...

 

[MorphingDragon]

Ripping may be similar.

Playing, on the other hand... I guess that's his/her point.

Umm, you have to buy software for BD playback on windows too. You can buy (or used to) software for Mac OSX...

Whats the difference here?

Also, makeMKV has beta BD playback, without ripping
Read This People! BDPlayback On Mac OSX and Linux Without Ripping!

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=703

 

[joost538]

SSD ... pretty please

Please Apple, give me an SSD option in the iMac! In fact give me Intel SSD as an option, not the lame samsung from the macbook air.

After installing an X-25 in my mbp I cannot stand the idea of working on a hard drive any more. Especially with my work, which is dealing with a large number of small files, the difference is enormous.

 

[Lord Vader]

You may give me a cracker as well; Blu-Ray is, as exhaustively explained before, a ridiculous DRM-ridden technology that brings only marginal gains when compared to normal DVDs.

In proportion, very few people own it, and nobody cares...it's almost sad to see how much they are trying to push it, while DVDs continue to represent over 95% of worldwide sales of physical media. In other words, just another example of too little, too late.

Apple is dead right on this one.

MS IS DEAD. AND SO IS DELL.

I like the way you handle that

Oh My.. You've quoted Steve Jobs twice in one thread. You're a real "Big Boy" Apple fanboy aren't you???? I bet you have a really elegant and delicious Mac too, don't you?

Keep skating to where the puck is going to be!!! I'm sure everyone is impressed with you!

Thanks, i'm trying my best.

 

[mk_in_mke]

1.) How do you rip them?

2.) How many external HDDs have you got?

3.) What if people have 32, 37, 42" or even larger screens?

4.) What about sound? You lose the quality sound too with your time-consuming/HDD-wasting ripping exercise.

5.) What if people just can't be bothered to rip? The whole point of Blu Ray is that you put it in and you get quality sound with quality picture on a disc.

6.) AND YOU CALL BLU RAY A BAG OF HURT?!

You for real?

 

[niuniu]

SO funny! Apple gets in trouble then we get a whole spat of Apple rumours sneaking out in the same week!

 

[Johns12]

Hdd is even more mechanical and therefore even worse to archive movies in BD quality. Maybe you rip BDs to ssd and your movie shelf is more expensive than your car?
Sadly internet ir today 100x times too slow/expensive for massive movie distribution for masses. And SD cards are 100x more expensive than BD.

Bying windows licence just for ripping BD is also quite expensive and very inconvenient.

I agree with this. If you don't like BD, fine, why trash those that think it a usable product. Let's see, the playbook goes like this:

1. Optical media is mechanical and dead
2. Just rip the BD disk to HDD which is an older mechanical tech
3. Or rip it to SSD, which only my rich uncle could afford to do
4. Just stream 1080 content on the internet, oops, I guess not.
5. Do your back ups to a hard drive (mechanical media), even though some of us would like to use BD as backup (from OSX)
6. Why would you want to watch BD on your 27" or 30" computer? Just use your tv. I know a bunch of people that don't own a tv, and use there computers for all media consumption (not me), but that is the brave new reality

Funny how denying another persons needs or wants is ok. Maybe a good look in the mirror is warranted.

The new Mac Pro looks very promising.

 

[kernkraft]

What it means to me and what it means to you

Umm, you have to buy software for BD playback on windows too. You can buy (or used to) software for Mac OSX...

Whats the difference here?

Also, makeMKV has beta BD playback, just play the disc. No ripping.

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=703

How I like doing it:

- You put your thing in

- Enjoy

- Take it out

- Done.


What you suggest:

- Fiddle with yourself

- Enjoy something that reminds you to the real thing.

 

[Lord Vader]

You for real?

Sadly, yes, he is.

 

[Manzanito]

There are no bluray movies to buy or rent where i live. All bluray movies and tv shows i have came from places like ebay and amazon. I don't like optical media in general and barely use superdrive on my iMac and previous PCs i had. I don't want to pay more for hardware i don't use. As i said before i buy blurays only if movie or tv show is very good (IMO) and i ript it anyway for use on WD TV HD (quality is great for my needs). I'm not quality freak running like crazy with magnifying glass.

So don't buy it. I still fail to see why adding, say, a BTO option would make it a bag of hurt. You don't have to pay for hardware you don't use (and yet you claim to rip blu rays) and the rest of us get what we want. See? No hurt there.

You don't have easy access to Blu Ray discs, and you don't like them. I'm OK with that. But that's a personal preference, not a bag of hurt.

By the way, you don't have to "run like crazy with a magnifying glass" to see the difference between a DVD and a Blu Ray.

But we digress, this is supposed to be about the USB 3.0 and faster firewire. Most welcome improvements. I have the money saved for the Pro for a long time now, I just hope they don't rise the prices ridiculously as they have done with the mini.