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USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter for New MacBook Includes HDMI and USB 3.1 Connectors

So I believe Microsoft fitted a magnetic charger to its Surface Pro, and the then Apple goes and removes it.....

And that's a ridiculous price for what should be included as standard. Apple sure are adding to the price gouging today.. They must be poor.
 
iVoid said:
It would have been nice to have at least one more USB port on the adapter.
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It would be nice to have the ports built right into the new laptop. Is "thinner" so important (to us consumers) that we really want things so thin that the fundamental ports have to be ejected... and then sold separately in an adapter? Was the Air really "too thick"? is the Macbook Pro "too thick"?

Is a computer that really needs accessories purchased to make it fully compatible with typical-use cases really "thinner" or is that an illusion by simply moving hardware out to external devices? Why not just kick the battery and circuit board to an external accessory too to thin the keyboard section that much more? Obviously, I'm not a fan of "thinner" at the expense of hardware utility but I'm sure others who never need such ports could passionately argue against having to buy port hardware they'll never use.
 
I haven't seen anyone mention an Ethernet cable. They don't show a USB-C to Ethernet, and that scares me a little.
 
Everyone is missing the point. If you need all the things they took off, get the MacBook Air. This machine was designed with specific goals in mind, it's not like the Air is a hulking beast.
 
You might as well buy an Apple TV if you need an external display. It's $10 cheaper than the dongles.
 
This should be included with all MacBook purchases.

I remember my first Mac product, the PowerBook G4 1.67Ghz back in 2005.
That computer came with a few adapters:
- VGA to DVI
- phone cable for the built in modem (omg, built in modems!)
- S-video out cable

What's going on, Apple? Can't afford to make life easier for your customers? Maybe if we speak out loud enough, they will be included in the box come April 10th.

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shenan1982 said:
I haven't seen anyone mention an Ethernet cable. They don't show a USB-C to Ethernet, and that scares me a little.
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Meh, there are USB 3.0 to Ethernet dongles available.
So MB>USB-C adapter>USB 3.0 to Ethernet>cable.

Didn't make me feel easy about that, either.
 
anthorumor said:
Meh, there are USB 3.0 to Ethernet dongles available.
So MB>USB-C adapter>USB 3.0 to Ethernet>cable.

Didn't make me feel easy about that, either.
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Does Apple travel? Many hotels around the world have ethernet, not WiFi.

What nobody seems to have pointed out yet is the power adaptor issue...

So most of you probably haven't noticed this yet.

You're going to basically get what you get with an iPad... the unit... a AC brick, and a USB cable to charge the device... but wait, there's one more thing....

- Every laptop Apple has ever sold comes with a wall plug to go from the wall to the brick as an extension. Not anymore. That'll cost you extra ($19 more)

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...137941b098a&fs=f=12inchmacbook&fh=4098%2B44c7

- Every replacement power cable Apple has ever sold has come with the above extension, and the ability to at least get you power from the wall to your laptop. Not anymore. That'll cost you an extra $19 for the extension, and another $29 for the USB-C to get you from the wall to the power brick...

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...137941b098a&fs=f=12inchmacbook&fh=4098%2B44c7

and

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...137941b098a&fs=f=12inchmacbook&fh=4098%2B44c7

and

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...137941b098a&fs=f=12inchmacbook&fh=4098%2B44c7

I can't believe that for $49, they make you buy a $29 and a $19 adaptor to make a complete power cord. I get customization, but don't you think if they're selling a "power adaptor" it should at least be able to power the laptop?

This is great for the stock price... not so great for overall user experience when they think they're getting everything they need from some of these accessories.
 
Reason077 said:
First, they came for our USB ports, and we did not speak out, for we had Bluetooth mice.

Then, they came for our Displayport connectors, and we did not speak out, for we rarely used external monitors anyway.

Then, they came for our Magsafe, and we did not speak out, for none of our friends or family would ever be so clumsy as to trip over our 2m power cable.

Then, they charged us $79 for a dongle which added these things back -- but there was nothing left to connect.
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"Backward compatible" adapters were common when USB first came on the scene, too. I recall having a USB-to-SCSI adapter so I could connect an old SCSI scanner, a USB-to-parallel-port adapter so I could connect my printer, and a USB-to-serial adapter so I could connect my Palm Pilot.

You'll notice that the primary adapters are for connecting to projectors - they are "power business user" adapters. The only other adapter is a plain USB type C to USB type A adapter. I'm surprised there isn't a USB type C to DisplayPort-and-MagSafe adapter to connect to an Apple display. (Of course, the fact that the current display is Thunderbolt doesn't help there.)
 
shenan1982 said:
Does Apple travel? Many hotels around the world have ethernet, not WiFi.

What nobody seems to have pointed out yet is the power adaptor issue...

So most of you probably haven't noticed this yet.

You're going to basically get what you get with an iPad... the unit... a AC brick, and a USB cable to charge the device... but wait, there's one more thing....

- Every laptop Apple has ever sold comes with a wall plug to go from the wall to the brick as an extension. Not anymore. That'll cost you extra ($19 more)

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...137941b098a&fs=f=12inchmacbook&fh=4098%2B44c7

- Every replacement power cable Apple has ever sold has come with the above extension, and the ability to at least get you power from the wall to your laptop. Not anymore. That'll cost you an extra $19 for the extension, and another $29 for the USB-C to get you from the wall to the power brick...

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...137941b098a&fs=f=12inchmacbook&fh=4098%2B44c7

and

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...137941b098a&fs=f=12inchmacbook&fh=4098%2B44c7

and

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...137941b098a&fs=f=12inchmacbook&fh=4098%2B44c7

I can't believe that for $49, they make you buy a $29 and a $19 adaptor to make a complete power cord. I get customization, but don't you think if they're selling a "power adaptor" it should at least be able to power the laptop?

This is great for the stock price... not so great for overall user experience when they think they're getting everything they need from some of these accessories.
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Thankfully, USB type C is a 100% industry standard. Apple is just one of the first to get it to market - and apparently the first to put it in a "full feature" laptop. (Thus needing a high-power brick/adapter.)

USB type C cords are already available from third parties, and higher-power bricks/adapters should be available soon. No need to buy an Apple-branded MagSafe brick, or risk a patent-violating Chinese knock-off, when you can get fully standards-compliant third party devices from reputable companies.

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anthorumor said:
This should be included with all MacBook purchases.

I remember my first Mac product, the PowerBook G4 1.67Ghz back in 2005.
That computer came with a few adapters:
- VGA to DVI
- phone cable for the built in modem (omg, built in modems!)
- S-video out cable

What's going on, Apple? Can't afford to make life easier for your customers? Maybe if we speak out loud enough, they will be included in the box come April 10th.

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Meh, there are USB 3.0 to Ethernet dongles available.
So MB>USB-C adapter>USB 3.0 to Ethernet>cable.

Didn't make me feel easy about that, either.
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I'm sure they will come out. This is the first mass-market product to have the new Type C connector - but many more are coming this year. We'll see plenty of Type C connector devices - especially with Apple having gone whole-hog on the MacBook, making it the only connector. (Much as how USB existed before the original iMac, but the iMac moving to just USB helped spur USB peripherals.
 
Seriously, what the ****. Its like a new connection standard every year now… So the adapter to connect your macbook actually costs more than an apple ****ing TV!
 
Which will we see first ... ?

The Sonnet Thunderbolt Docking Station or a USB Type-C dock?

Just because USB Type-C is a standard is no guarantee that vendors are going to RUSH to produce products (just like they did(not) for Thunderbolt - perhaps you have forgotten the w......a.............i....................t

Anyway, only one I/O port and $79 for an UGLY dongle kills this new MacBook for me.
 
Reason077 said:
First, they came for our USB ports, and we did not speak out, for we had Bluetooth mice.

Then, they came for our Displayport connectors, and we did not speak out, for we rarely used external monitors anyway.

Then, they came for our Magsafe, and we did not speak out, for none of our friends or family would ever be so clumsy as to trip over our 2m power cable.

Then, they charged us $79 for a dongle which added these things back -- but there was nothing left to connect.
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LOL at this.
And LOL at the people that want to buy a 2 pound ultra-portable device, and want to be able to connect a second display, a mouse, a printer, an iPhone, an iPad, a trackpad, and... what else?

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Wild-Bill said:
Agreed.

This new Macbook is just a steaming pile of adapter-required FAIL.
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It is a fail for all these so-called hardcore-power-users that seem to think they need to be able to connect fourteen devices to a 2 pound ultra-portable device. I'm sure Apple knows quite well that is not who is going to buy this device.

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marty11 said:
No SD card slot is a major turnoff at least for me. I can live with the other connectivity issues.

Very bizarre day for apple.
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The SD card slot is why I opted for the 13" MBA instead of the 11". Guess they have the same difficulty fitting it in this as they did with the 11".

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HobeSoundDarryl said:
It would be nice to have the ports built right into the new laptop. Is "thinner" so important (to us consumers) that we really want things so thin that the fundamental ports have to be ejected... and then sold separately in an adapter? Was the Air really "too thick"? is the Macbook Pro "too thick"?
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You are correct in that to some people "thinner" is NOT more important. Hence, in case you missed it, they still make the MBA, as well as the rMBP. Is it really really so bad to add another option of ultra-portable, for the people to whom it IS so important to have thinner and lighter? Does giving them an option somehow make the other existing options that better meet your needs less appealing to you?
 
Anonymous Freak said:
Thankfully, USB type C is a 100% industry standard. Apple is just one of the first to get it to market - and apparently the first to put it in a "full feature" laptop. (Thus needing a high-power brick/adapter.)
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I am banking on this as well. How many non-Apple-branded MacBook power bricks can you buy today? Answer - zero. The reason for that is MagSafe, and the fact that Apple doesn't license MagSafe to 3rd-parties.

USB 3.1 is an open standard, and I expect to see various docks and adapters popping up later this year.

The fact that new MacBook 12" power brick is a plug with a female USB port is a huge plus. We are no longer stuck with buying Apple adapters and accessories. Just give it a bit of time for 3rd-party USB-C accessories to hit the market.
 
Well the whole laptop is really pathetic and overpriced, so who's surprised that the adapter is similarly lacking and similarly too expensive?

A single HDMI port and a single USB 3.1 connector for $79. Wow.

And that HDMI port will only go up to 1080p. On your $1300 laptop. Wow.

I get that they wanted to strip the product down, but the prices haven't gone down enough to make it a reasonable value proposition. I think Tim Cook is taking that "you see Macs everywhere these days" thing for granted.
 
So, I'm sorry, I'm still confused here. Help me out, please.

The new Macbook 12" has only 1 USB-C port. This adapter converts that single port into: USB-C, USB 3.0, and HDMI for 1080p displays.

This adapter does not have Thunderbolt port, and the new Macbook doesn't list Thunderbolt capability.

Apply only sells a 27" Thunderbolt display, the same display they've had for a few years and that they've been pushing for all their laptops. So.....Apple doesn't actually sell a display (any display at all) that this new Macbook can be attached to for external monitor? Is that correct?

I have a Thunderbolt display that I use in my office, but I'm guessing this new Macbook isn't for me if I can't actually use it with my Thunderbolt monitor. Can someone help confirm? :confused:
 
cjdshaw said:
I was expecting the power supply to have at least 1 USB port on it, maybe 2 and a mini Displayport. Make it a mini-dock. Do we know that's not the case?
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Actually that wouldve been a great solution.

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The description of the charge cable scares me a little -

USB-C Charge Cable (2m) from the Official Apple Store - http://www.apple.com/s/aR9t4B9r2Y


Isnt it possible to use the full bandwidth of USB3 or 3.1 while supplying enough current to charge a laptop? If not, then the type of dock I'd like to use will never be.
 
APlotdevice said:
Yes, because connecting your notebook to an ultrahigh resolution external display or superfast SSD is sooooo 2000s!
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It's not like Apple gave up on external expansion. The Macbook Pro got an update, the Airs got Thunderbolt 2, etc. Remember the original Macbook Air? The biggest complaints were: too few ports, no optical drive, dongle for additional connectivity. Have they gone a step too far with the new Macbook? Considering the fact that they're still selling the Air with a few extra ports, and the MBP with even more ports... I'd say they're going to see if people are willing to give up the ports in exchange for a smaller, thinner, lighter device.
 
Please, don't buy this MacBook...

I'd like to know just who it is at Apple, that's projecting their unhealthy body image issues onto these devices.

But, seriously. Was it REALLY that important to make it exactly so much thinner that they HAD to eliminate Magsafe and Thunderbolt? Really? Was there a single request from any customer on this planet or any other to make it that thin?

As far as I'm concerned the lack of both (and a ridiculous 8GB ram limit) make this MacBook a non-starter. I wouldn't pay HALF of what they're charging. Am I really the only one?

I'd love a sample of whatever the people at Apple are smoking these days. The least they could do, after charging so much, for so little.

My Macs used to feel like erector sets. I could make them do just about anything I could ever imagine wanting to do with them. These days, new Macs, all I see is limitations before I ever think of buying them. Non-upgradable ram, storage, battery... Eliminating great software, Hypercard, QTVR, now Aperture...

Apple used to seem to want their consumer customers to become prosumers, and maybe even pros... These days, the new Apple seems to want prosumers to drop to their knees and submit to being lowly consumer drones and all the ridiculous limitations that go along with that.

Apple used to encourage their customers to want more, to do more, not less...


I miss the old Apple...


Don't buy this MacBook, tell your family members not to buy this MacBook.. Enough is enough of this god damned downgrades disguised as upgrades.

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alvindarkness said:
Actually that wouldve been a great solution.

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The description of the charge cable scares me a little -

USB-C Charge Cable (2m) from the Official Apple Store - http://www.apple.com/s/aR9t4B9r2Y


Isnt it possible to use the full bandwidth of USB3 or 3.1 while supplying enough current to charge a laptop? If not, then the type of dock I'd like to use will never be.
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USB needs to be killed, with fire, then napalm, then more fire... then perhaps battery acid?

Can't imagine why Apple couldn't make the new MacBook with MagSafe and Thunderbolt.. Why artificially cripple the MacBook so damn much?
 
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