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Use the Original iPhone as a Wifi iPod
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Why are people upset by this and posting negative reactions
? All this is doing is giving us a much higher re-sale value to our no longer used 1.0 iPhone. Mr. or Mrs. Consumer could either buy a $299/399 Touch or buy our old iPhone with much more functionality. Nothing but good news to me!
? All this is doing is giving us a much higher re-sale value to our no longer used 1.0 iPhone. Mr. or Mrs. Consumer could either buy a $299/399 Touch or buy our old iPhone with much more functionality. Nothing but good news to me!3g iphone
What I'd like to be able to do is buy the 3g iphone at full price without a contract and use it as a wifi ipod touch with gps capabilities for mapping. Why does apple even need an ipod touch.. just sell the 3g without a contract at full price and let us use it for wifi.. with the ability to enable the 3g chip with at&t if we decide we want to use it as a phone later..
What I'd like to be able to do is buy the 3g iphone at full price without a contract and use it as a wifi ipod touch with gps capabilities for mapping. Why does apple even need an ipod touch.. just sell the 3g without a contract at full price and let us use it for wifi.. with the ability to enable the 3g chip with at&t if we decide we want to use it as a phone later..
>>>that an AT&T spokesperson has informed them that customers upgrading to the iPhone 3G could continue to use their original iPhone as a Wi-Fi iPod:This would replicate the functionality of the iPod touch, with the additional ability to record audio and take photographs. If it can be successfully upgraded to 2.0 firmware without service, the original iPhone could also be used to run 3rd party apps and <<<
I think AT&T is trying to mislead customers to a certain direction on purpose.
1st generation iphone work great as it is even with out 2g or 3g plan. With all the features it comes with WIFI, IPOD, Phone, some apps, there is no need to suggest using it as an ipod touch. There are so many ways to unlock the 1st gen iphones that anyone who use it as an ipod touch is plain dumb. SUPER DUMB.
Want a way to get rid of the 1st gen iphone (if u are super rich to buy the 3rd gen one), put it on ebay and let the market decide how much it's worth.
I think AT&T is trying to mislead customers to a certain direction on purpose.
1st generation iphone work great as it is even with out 2g or 3g plan. With all the features it comes with WIFI, IPOD, Phone, some apps, there is no need to suggest using it as an ipod touch. There are so many ways to unlock the 1st gen iphones that anyone who use it as an ipod touch is plain dumb. SUPER DUMB.
Want a way to get rid of the 1st gen iphone (if u are super rich to buy the 3rd gen one), put it on ebay and let the market decide how much it's worth.
Wait a minute... i'm ALLOWED to use MY iphone?
Damn straight i can still use it... this isn't a gift from ATT. What, i should expect that they'll brick my iphone just because i bought a new one?
This post treats that fact that they "remain functional" as some sort of special present. it's MY electronic device... just because i'm not signed up with ATT sure BETTER NOT mean it's a paperweight.
of course, ATT probably WANTS to brick all the old ones. I'm sure it's counting on those (ridiculous, insulting, idiotic) extra text messaging fees.
But giving me permission to use my own device is just plain insulting. screw you, ATT... worst (american) cell phone company ever.
Damn straight i can still use it... this isn't a gift from ATT. What, i should expect that they'll brick my iphone just because i bought a new one?
This post treats that fact that they "remain functional" as some sort of special present. it's MY electronic device... just because i'm not signed up with ATT sure BETTER NOT mean it's a paperweight.
of course, ATT probably WANTS to brick all the old ones. I'm sure it's counting on those (ridiculous, insulting, idiotic) extra text messaging fees.
But giving me permission to use my own device is just plain insulting. screw you, ATT... worst (american) cell phone company ever.
Why are people upset by this and posting negative reactions
iphone 1.0 worths way more then 399. that's why it's not a good news when comparing with ipod touch.
It's just plain stupid idea.
right on with wat i was thinking. will be great to keep it for a dedicated remote and back up. will it be able to control
TV?I'm going to use my original iPhone as. . .
an iPhone! At least until Sept '09 when my contract ends.
Given that my antique version sports the sensuous brushed aluminum back only to be replaced by plastic (I'm sure Apple will do a lovely job with that -- hell, they make cardboard sexy!), I'm giving it the nickname "Sexy Back." I have no idea what Justin Timberlake is referring to in his song, but I am applying it to my iPhone the way I want!
an iPhone! At least until Sept '09 when my contract ends.
Given that my antique version sports the sensuous brushed aluminum back only to be replaced by plastic (I'm sure Apple will do a lovely job with that -- hell, they make cardboard sexy!), I'm giving it the nickname "Sexy Back." I have no idea what Justin Timberlake is referring to in his song, but I am applying it to my iPhone the way I want!
I have no idea if you are downing my opinion or supporting it. Can you articulate your idea a bit more?
I think if AT&T wanted to mislead customers they would just remain mum on the issue, and hope new iPhone buyers just toss their old iPhones or stick them in a drawer as a backup.
Remember that 95% of iPhone users aren't going to know about jaibreaking, unlocking, iWinPwnage or some relatively obscure software to hack their phones. And even if they conceptually knew it was possible, they wouldn't do it anyway.
So this is just a reminder to people that the non-phone functions of old iPhones will work just fine.
Correct me if I'm wrong...
With all my other phones in the past, if I paid FULL price I could actually demand that phone to be unlocked regardless of service contract (did this once). Phones that I bought with a SUBSIDY were tied to the contract, but once the contract was fulfilled, I could request that phone be unlocked. I believe this is law in most places, just not widely known. Again, out-of-contract, I could use these phone with any compatible carrier.
The original iPhone was NOT subsidized that I know of. Those of us that bought one paid full retail cost. While under your AT&T 2-year contract, the iPhone remains locked (aside from jailbreaking it) to AT&T.
I'm no lawyer, but if you upgrade to a 3G and enter into a new 2-year contract, according to what I've seen, the original contract is then fulfilled by the power of AT&T.
So, at the end of my contract, shouldn't both AT&T and Apple be required to fully & legally unlock these iPhones and it is now your's to take elsewhere?
I can see that Apple would no longer have to provide FREE software upgrades for them, you would pay just as an iPod touch user does.
If Apple is wise, they should unlock after contract to gain further iTunes and App Store sales. Plus it would be environmentally responsible to keep functional product in use. Yes, they want you to buy the "latest & greatest" which you most likely will, but you'll sell it to someone that may not be a consumer of their iTS or App Store. Their original hardware & plan profits have already been achieved. An officially unlocked iPhone out-of-contract will become a revenue generator for Apple until it dies.
Like I said, I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but as I understand it and have experience with my previous phones, AT&T and Apple have to officially unlock these when we complete our contracts.
With all my other phones in the past, if I paid FULL price I could actually demand that phone to be unlocked regardless of service contract (did this once). Phones that I bought with a SUBSIDY were tied to the contract, but once the contract was fulfilled, I could request that phone be unlocked. I believe this is law in most places, just not widely known. Again, out-of-contract, I could use these phone with any compatible carrier.
The original iPhone was NOT subsidized that I know of. Those of us that bought one paid full retail cost. While under your AT&T 2-year contract, the iPhone remains locked (aside from jailbreaking it) to AT&T.
I'm no lawyer, but if you upgrade to a 3G and enter into a new 2-year contract, according to what I've seen, the original contract is then fulfilled by the power of AT&T.
So, at the end of my contract, shouldn't both AT&T and Apple be required to fully & legally unlock these iPhones and it is now your's to take elsewhere?
I can see that Apple would no longer have to provide FREE software upgrades for them, you would pay just as an iPod touch user does.
If Apple is wise, they should unlock after contract to gain further iTunes and App Store sales. Plus it would be environmentally responsible to keep functional product in use. Yes, they want you to buy the "latest & greatest" which you most likely will, but you'll sell it to someone that may not be a consumer of their iTS or App Store. Their original hardware & plan profits have already been achieved. An officially unlocked iPhone out-of-contract will become a revenue generator for Apple until it dies.
Like I said, I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but as I understand it and have experience with my previous phones, AT&T and Apple have to officially unlock these when we complete our contracts.
What if you don't want to pay another monthly fee? And use it like an ipod touch?
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Gen 1 dock will not fit the 3G iPhone.
Which is lame - especially considering they are not including a dock with the 3G iPhone.
I too have the Apple BT ear piece, gen 1 iPhone and both docks (dock that came with phone and with the ear piece - yeah, lots o' docks).
I use my iPhone as my alarm and LOVE the dual docking station.
Both devices charge whilst I do the same.
Wake, grab devices and roll.
That said, Apple's BT ear piece comes with a USB cable that includes a slot for connecting & charging said ear piece. Not as elegant as the docking solution, but still enables both syncing and pairing of BT & iPhone.
It would be quite Apple of Apple to separately sell a new 3G iPhone compatible dock for $49.99. And make separate BT ear pieces but with 3G iPhone compatible docks included.
Grumble...
Are people really that stupid?
Man, I'm going to start checking those "recycle your old cell phones here" bins!!!
As you said, you're no lawyer. If you upgrade to 3G, and sign a new 2 year contract, AT&T relieves you of the obligations of your old 2 year contract if you sign a new one, but you have not "fulfilled them." You simply enter into a new one, and it says nothing about being entitled to unlocking. Interestingly, no 3G iPhone is available without a new 2 year contract (unlike upgrading to a 16 GB EDGE iPhone, which allowed you to step into old contract). They're on solid legal ground.
As someone noted, existing iPhone works well without SIM. iPhone with 2.0 should also, but it would be nice to have someone confirm that asap on July 11. If so, anyone switching to 3G clearly should upgrade to 2.0 first to increase value. If not, might want to hold back from 2.0 upgrade. In any case, doubt that will be able to upgrade to 2.0 if not presently activated.
No Dock?
This has been reported several places. Here's a PDF comparison chart that AT&T has on their website, which also states no dock.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/en/2G3Gcomparison.pdf
This has been reported several places. Here's a PDF comparison chart that AT&T has on their website, which also states no dock.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/en/2G3Gcomparison.pdf
I'll buy it from you for $100. Ever since the annoucement of the 3g iPhone, I have been looking at upgrading my 8gig 1st gen iPhone to a 16gig 1st gen iPhone.