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Users Find Some New MacBook Pros Suffer From Major Graphics Issues

CaptRB said:
Okay...I have the new Macbook Pro 13 with Touchbar. It's a STUNNING machine. No issues. My friend is running 4K video via Final Cut with no issues. How many haters here actually OWN one of these? You sound like a bunch of babies. I've got a loaded Macbook Air and the 2014 15" pro and I'm shocked at how much nicer the new machine is. Sure, it should be 200 bucks cheaper, but the screen is the best I've seen. I'm processing Nikon D810 pics and this is really a sweet laptop.

So far so good. Almost everyone here does NOT have a 2016 Macbook Pro, and they are crying the loudest. Get it?


R.
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Well I actually own one, and everything was working great until today when it suddenly wasn't. You have something cute you'd like to say to me?
 
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MH01 said:
To be fair on these forums there are whiners and apologists , many of which do not own the machines, please don't only emphasise the whiners, apologists are just as bad and toxic.

Yes I do own the new machine. I bought a Max 2015 return and 2.7 460 2016 and comparing the two to decide which to keep.

Yes the new model is stunning, though between the 2015 and 2016 is pros/cons....can I ask how your battery is ? That is my biggest concern, I a, yet to also do intensive graphic tests between the two
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Mine is just the 13", but so far battery life has been complete trash to be honest. Even just surfing the web and shooting off emails, I get maybe 4-5 hours of battery life. So far it is my only real gripe with the thing besides the graphical issues that just started popping up today.
 
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I've been using Macs since 2003, first a 12" iBook, then a 13" MacBook 2006 MacBook, a Late 2008 15" MacBook Pro and a 2013 13" MacBook Air.

Those Laptops were the ones that got me through university and my first job as an iOS developer, but you also have to keep in mind, Apple laptops have a history of issues and defects.

My beloved 2003 iBook eventually died the GPU ball-grid soldering death. I tried to revive it using a tea light but haven't had any luck. Also, the palm-rest got cracked under normal use and there was a battery recall.

One of my 2006 MacBook Pro's USB got fried due to a faulty USB-device, yes, I know it's not Apples fault, but in the short time I've used it the palm-rest got all discolored like I've never seen before!

The 2008 MacBook Pro is just genius! A compact profile that hasn't gone down in size that much, HDD, Optical-Drive, RAM, Battery, all user-serviceable.

Over the years I upgraded that laptop from its 250GB HDD to a 1TB SSD, maxed the RAM out from 2GB to 8GB, put a high-capacity battery in it (the old one got bulgy) and swapped the DVD-drive for an internal Blu-Ray Burner. I also installed Sierra (unsupported) on this machine and now call it my beloved "Frankenstein" although it looks as sexy as the first day I got it!

The 2013 Air is nice and compact and the SSD is user-replaceable, but unfortunately the RAM is soldered, which is why I maxed it out to 8GB back then upon purchase. Luckily nothing else has failed in that laptop.

Now the 2008 MacBook Pro and the 2013 Air are truly great machines in their own ways and I think dropping the optical drive in the MacBooks was the right decision. I also think going all in on USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 is the right decision in the end.

I was going to buy a late 2016 15" MacBook Pro as a replacement for my late 2008 MacBook Pro, but rationality and thinking got me back down to earth. The late 2008 15" MacBook Pro was 1380€ when I bought it with edu-discounts. The late 2016 15" MacBook Pro is almost double the price. Not only that: The SSD is soldered and its really expensive. I'd rather have a slower SSD I can replace, service and upgrade. Since I can't do that I'd have to max out the SSD to 2 TB or at least 1 TB. No, a cloud is no alternative and yes, I need that space on the go.

Regarding the Hardware-Choices:
Couldn't they simply have gone with the AMD 460 on every 15" Machine? At this price the performance upgrade in relation to the overall price is just negligible. And why did they go with Skylake CPUs? Seriously? Dell and other competitors are shipping Kaby Lake already. The optimizations for HEVC would make the 13" MacBook Pros suitable for 4K video content de-and encoding. The current 13" MacBook Pros simply are not. Did you notice the mid 2015 15" MacBook Pro blows away the 2016 15" MacBook Pro performance wise? Look at the geekbench results if you don't believe me.

And once they switch to those or Coffee Lake the new 10nm die-shrunk Cannonlake CPUs are on the brink of being released. Taking into consideration die-shrinks nowadays happen every 3-4 years I think it is very well worth it waiting for those CPUs. It'll get you a cooler running, faster, longer lasting machine.

The dongle issue is exaggerated. Just buy some USB-C to what ever USB-standard cables for 5€ and you're good to go, no dongles needed. What also keeps me puzzled: How do I hook up my lightning headphones to a new MacBook Pro? Can't Apple get rid of that plug and go for USB-C on the iPhone too? It'd make things so much easier! One cable to charge iPhones and MacBooks, USB-C headphones could be used on both devices.

I also think it's a shame Apple dropped the MagSafe connector. It is a great life-saver!

The keyboard on the other hand is just pure taste, I guess I can get used to the new butterfly mechanism with time.

But now, to get to the point:
- the new MacBook Pros are unreasonably high priced (almost double the price)
- tiered towards a pro-sumer with a fat wallet (small overpriced SSDs, soldered)
- not well thought and designed (soldered SSD)
- graphic card issues
- inconsistency between Lightning and USB-C connectors across iPhone and MacBook
- no more MagSafe
- obsolete CPUs
- weak performance

Any rational person should skip these and wait for a rev. B and hopefully a big discount.
It's not unusual - It happened with the MacBook Air which became the best value for money MacBook for a long time.

So my motto as a long term Apple user: Keep calm and wait another year for the Cannonlake CPUs and new Macs. If they are just as terrible as the late 2016 MacBook Pros I'll switch to Windows.
 
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I remember when there was a time when Macs not only had style but functionality. When the company wouldn't nickel and dime you on accessories, and everything was meant to exist together in the Apple ecosystem. Those days are dead, now its is about cynically squeezing profits out of the current lines while making marginal innovations, often getting rid of some of the things that gave Macs their identity (magsafe a lifesaver, glowing logo which was just neat, ability to swap out your HD/ram, etc.) Apple has left the enthusiasts behind and is full on pandering to the brand as a style over anything else. Hard to justify the premiums anymore when everything is falling to the wayside.

But hey everything is a little thinner. :toot:
 
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slapple said:
This is what happens when you try to make your laptops paper thin. There's no air circulation inside and the GPUs overheat and die.
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So drill hundreds of holes in the base and elevate it - like I did with my old powerbook g4. It dramatically reduced the temperature.

It wasn't thinness making it hot in that case - the whole thing was too hot no matter how big it was. The main problem was the heat was't getting out quick enough.

So if apple want to make their computers thin and this impacts badly on heat dissipation, we need to go back to basics. If apple won't put hundreds of holes in the base and elevate, then we need to do it for them.

Same goes for the gpu solder balls. Lead-free balls crack more easily, so we need to reball them - WITH LEAD BALLS, just as we had to for the xbox and ps4 (although in those cases I suspect many people would have just gone out an got another xbox or another ps4 and too gutless to reball - by the way lead balls cost a few cents - and a new mbp a few thousand dollars !!!!!!!)
 
CaptRB said:
Okay...I have the new Macbook Pro 13 with Touchbar. It's a STUNNING machine. No issues. My friend is running 4K video via Final Cut with no issues. How many haters here actually OWN one of these? You sound like a bunch of babies. I've got a loaded Macbook Air and the 2014 15" pro and I'm shocked at how much nicer the new machine is. Sure, it should be 200 bucks cheaper, but the screen is the best I've seen. I'm processing Nikon D810 pics and this is really a sweet laptop.

So far so good. Almost everyone here does NOT have a 2016 Macbook Pro, and they are crying the loudest. Get it?


R.
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Get back to us in a month or two. Like all typical self-focused consumers, you're happy with your product until the design flaw actually bites YOU in the ass.
 
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farewelwilliams said:
never said razer was great.
but with that said: I've had 4 friends all with a MacBook Pro 2011 each with a Geforce chip. they all had graphics failures and Apple bar told them that they essentially have to replace the entire logic board at a cost. and this is a few weeks AFTER apple care ended. no joke, all 4 of them experienced the same issue, and no recall was ever done by Apple.
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Not true. Apple did have a free repair program for broken 2011 GPUs/mainboards until February 2016 for that. (it was pretty late, though ... and only after many customers created big pressure)
 
I believe the issues where red squares show up instead of the real content of a window are software issues, saw that on an old Mac Pro running an AMD RX480 using the AMD Pro driver.
The other things look worse, though.
 
I try to stay away from that company who keeps pushing Flash, bloated software and nasty DRM. I know they're standard in the creative industry but do yourself a favour and move to Final Cut, Pixelmator, Sketch, Coda, Espresso... Specially if you bought the new MBP. The hardware is all new, so expect to see many more problems like the ones presented in this article.
 
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Luis Ortega said:
This model should be scrapped like the Note 7.
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Yeah. Can we trust apple for their new products? This thread is terrible for apple.

And their next product to be released? Probably airpods.

If airpods blow up like samsungs phones will tim cook be arrested as a terrorist who created a weapon of mass destruction?

And don't even get me started on apple car.
 
Anyone else notice that the phones do this on shut down? Every time I reboot my iPhone 7 running iOS 10, I have some weird graphic distortion as it shuts down. I've even heard it crackle and pop a few times.
 
I have an old 2009 17" MBP that I was planning on replacing soon with a 15" model but I think I'm going to have to wait and see what's up with this company. If Apple can't get their thing together with their products then I'm going to just wait and see if Android-based machines mature into a laptop alternative.

I haven't been impressed with the performance of this company since the departure of Jobs.
 
Hopefully, this will forever phase J. Ive and his ridiculous design regime out.
Could be just in time before spoiling the iPhone 8
 
diipii said:
Clearly caused by an overheating graphics chip that is unable to cool itself properly in the thin case.
This issue will cause Apple a huge headache until it adopts an engineers attitude to design.
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what the hell? this thing reproduce under no heavy load...so even when the dGPu is at 50C
 
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