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I am canceling mine this crap is getting crazy.

Glad I went with the 13". Never really liked dedicated GPUs in laptops. Not only does it drain the battery and generates too much heat and you have issues like this.

Is this something a software update can fix or is it a flaw in hardware design?
 
It's a relevant comment as 30 year loyalty (which I also share, Macintosh 512Ke since you're interested) says an awful lot about a company, especially one with as chequered a past as Apple. It takes a lot to make us waver but we seem to be entering that moment.
I think "loyalty" is kind of an odd thing. I guess you could say when a company does right by you you tend to buy their products you stick by them. But I tend to use whatever tool is right for the job without really thinking about branding too much.

But yeah. I've been pretty put off by apple lately too. My next laptop will probably be a windows
 
Ouch! Word of the day is "kernel panic". Gotta laugh at that one. Def makes me want to rethink the whole early adopter posture. We're living in a world where eager consumers are turning into ....poof.... guinea pigs.
 
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I have had two screen failures on mine.
Second one was just out of warranty and they had me send video and pictures said we are sending a tag and I emailed them saying cool. I asked the next day if they are going to warranty it and they told me NO so screw razer.

uh no.

razer blade pro
0.88" thick and 7.8 pounds (note the 17" screen). oh and it has 32gb and a GTX 1080.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro
 
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This almost certainly affects a tiny, tiny minority of people. Probably less than 0.01% of all purchases. Let's not blow things out of proportion, and we all know Apple will make things right for the unlucky few.
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A few defective MacBook Pros doesn't change a single thing.

You'd say the same thing even if every one was defective.
 
I specifically remember when NVidia cards use to cause issues in Mac's. So this is not a case of bad brand of GPU. Its just one of those things when it comes to Rev A.
 
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Apple is still an incredible company making the very best products. A fact underlined by the fact there are huge waiting lists for the new MacBook Pros, iPhones are still on 2-3 week waits for shipments, etc. Apple cannot make their products quickly enough to fulfil demand. This is not evidence of a company in trouble.

Anyone who's still waiting for an iPhone 7/7+ to be shipped needs to just go buy one at a store. They're in plentiful supply at every Apple Store and probably just about every Best Buy within a 50 mile radius of me.

Secondly, Apple prices a lot of people out of the market by selling a laptop that starts at $2,200. That's Apple's choice and they have every right to price their products however they choose. However, Apple will cause people to abandon their product who would otherwise spend $2,200+ for a laptop when said laptops have major flaws that prevent people from getting work done.

The people I know who buy these $2,200+ laptops (myself included) only do so because of the amazing ecosystem that allows to work seamlessly with Mac software, other Apple hardware, and other operating systems all on one machine that fits nicely into a small backpack. Apple's obsession on making everything smaller, though, is really starting to hurt the user experience.

Form over function seems to be Apple's ever-present mantra of late. Dongles everywhere -- and duplicate dongles if, God forbid, you're on a trip and forget one of your dongles at home so you have to buy another. And now, let's add graphics card problems to the growing list of reasons not to consider buying this machine. This is just one more nail in the coffin for this iteration of the MacBook Pro. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I think this MacBook Pro will go down in history right next to the third-gen iPad.
 
And Tim is the new Steve Ballmer...but more annoying cause not only is he jsut as greedy but preaches social issues .... maybe just maybe he should spend sometime asking his management about product development and not just proift margins.
I agree. I see issues that should not be possible.
 
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Yeah I'd be willing to bet my left nut that this is a thermal management issue... the GPU or the logic board getting too hot and something is failing under the temperature...

I just don't know what was wrong with the thickness of the previous design? It was already the thinnest, or at least one of the few thinnest 15" laptops with dedicated graphics... They could have redesigned it to the new style, kept some extra flippin' legacy ports, put some DDR4 memory, you know, for "Pro Performance", had better cooling and just as good or better battery life because the battery could be bigger...

You're thinking too logically. When one has a reality distortion field around one's eyes, one doesn't think logically.

I have this theory that Jony Ive and Tim Cook just stand at the top of a huge Scrooge McDuck-like money bin and j*** o** onto it. I mean. They can't honestly be thinking this garbage they are releasing is quality, right?
 
The news just gets worse and worse.

There is something very wrong inside Apple.


I agree. I have noticed primarily the politicalization going on at Apple, I believe spearheaded by its CEO. Thats only one symptom to a larger issue at Apple...loss of direction and focus. And I'm not trying to be negative, its just seems to be fact.
 
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And this is why you never buy the first generation of a redesign.

:(

I would've waited but after a year of waiting, I couldn't wait anymore. Besides at the rate they update the Pros now, it might be another 500 days before the 2nd gen comes out.

But I certainly don't think it's an excuse. 1st gen doesn't mean Apple can give us buggy crap.
 
This whole 'first gen' thing makes no sense. Is last years corvette 'first gen' since they changed the body style a bit?!?
Apple has been making MacBook pros and 'pro' laptops,for decades now. There's no 'first gen' about it - by now they should be able to redesign a product without it sucking.
If that were true we wouldn't see defects like this.
 
Returned my base 13 inch to Amazon today. I had tearing and other graphical glitches while watching video. Not worth the risk. Went right back for a full refund. What a shame.

Yes I understand this is mostly related to higher end models with dedicated graphics, but in my experience integrated graphics can also have issues. I saw enough screen tearing and glitching so I bailed.
 
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Welp - I just upgraded my early 2011 MacBook Pro plagued with graphics problems to this brand new touch bar model and I think you can see where I'm going with this...

Apple - this is just getting ridiculous.



What a pathetic company.
 
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Too thin for a powerful GPU, form over function, Apple of 2016. Which is why I switched to Windows 10 a while back.

Unfortunately. I have the same problems with dell on win10. Fan is always on and GPU is too hot. Replace motherboard and it doesn't help.
 
I think this has convinced me to buy a current generation iMac 21.5". I'll get 16gb RAM and SSD and it will be good enough for next 6 years or so.
I was tempted by the 15" model but realized it's just too damn expensive and would probably have first generation issues. Then I was hopeful for an iMac with the faster SSD (NVMe) and touch ID (don't really care about the touch bar). But it's not worth it. It's still just a computer.

Had I not ordered a MBP (minus the BS Pro) BTO that's now somewhere in production I would most certainly cancel it! I really was debating the MS Surface Studio but I went for the Mac, and boy do I ever have a case of buyer remorse! what a complete POS!!!!
 
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