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As TenFourTube, TigerTUBE, and YewTubePPC are all now broken thanks to YouTube's UA changes, I figured I would try copying video links from TigerTUBE (as a video search engine), and then just play them via PPC Media Center. This works well enough, but on a 400mhz G3, QuickTime is an absolute sloth.

I think I remember hearing that this can no longer be done, but I wanted to make sure. Can PPC Media Center be relinked in some way to use CorePlayer or VLC instead of QuickTime, or can we at least find a way?

Thanks all.
 
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Does CorePlayer even work for h.264 on a G3? On my clamshell it would always SIGILL when attempting to decode something downloaded from youtube, so unless someone can confirm otherwise I think altivec is a hard requirement. MP3/AAC-encoded audio plays just fine though.

Anyway, I no longer use PPCMC but it's an AppleScript frontend to youtube-dl, so you can always write a new applescript for yt-dl that asks some other movie player to open the stream instead of quicktime. Youtube seems to no longer serve videos over plain http; using coreplayer will require downloading the video using a helper before playing it since https is unsupported.

An mplayer binary compiled without altivec is my best pal on a g3.
 
Can PPC Media Center be relinked in some way to use CorePlayer or VLC instead of QuickTime, or can we at least find a way?

Coreplayer doesn't work on a G3 - no Altivec, your best playback option is MPlayer.

I spoke to the PPC Media Center author a while back and he said the way it was written, it had to use QuickTime for playback - if there was a way to alter this MPlayer is a good candidate for streaming.

This user has coded a script to make Youtube stream directly through Coreplayer (I tried but couldn't get it to work) - I've asked him to share his knowledge but for whatever reason, he won't.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ader-even-for-g3.2031523/page-4#post-25217224

Youtube-dl is no longer as clever as it used to be - it can't discern 3gp files now (which are more forgiving to lower specced hardware) even though they are still there - the devs seem to shrug this off as "Youtube don't use 3gp anymore."
 
As of now (certainly on Tiger) the way to reach Youtube on low end machines is with ArcticFox and it's already installed downloader plugin then change the UA overide for Youtube to:

NokiaN90-1/3.0545.5.1 Series60/2.8 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1

This will force 3gp streaming playback into QuickTime or in my case, RealPlayer which is better (on my G3 600Mhz iBook):

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As of now (certainly on Tiger) the way to reach Youtube on low end machines is with ArcticFox and it's already installed downloader plugin then change the UA overide for Youtube to:

NokiaN90-1/3.0545.5.1 Series60/2.8 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1

This will force 3gp streaming playback into QuickTime or in my case, RealPlayer which is better (on my G3 600Mhz iBook):

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On a G3, like you showed in many threads, Realplayer is the way. Some very old version of VLC seems to be very good at playing back low quality 3gp even on very low end models, but the quality is less than desirable (as using Tiger on those).

btw Ride is great; Seagull has been playing in my mind ever since I was 12.
 
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What about YouTube on Classilla? (10.3.x and earlier but not OS 9)
clicking a video launches Quicktime automatically and plays the video.
And shouldnt the same work for TFF with Classilla UA?
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Is RealPlayer still working with Safari (Nokia UA)?
Any chance of this being an issue with RealPlayer?

No - that's why I said the method is no longer working. It's Youtube changing the way it delivers files - or possibly my ISP blocking them - that's happened before.
ArcticFox and any browser using a UA to reach 3gp files will be effected.
 
For now on my G3 iBook, Youtube comes via Safari with Nokia N90 UA, javascript and styles switched off going to www.tonvid.com, copying the link, then clicking a script shortcut from my old G3 player package which passes the video to youtube-dl/MPlayer.
Safari is superfast searching www.tonvid.com with the options I mentioned and the scripts allow me to either download the video and play/move it separately or download, watch and delete when finished.

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For now on my G3 iBook, Youtube comes via Safari with Nokia N90 UA, javascript and styles switched off going to www.tonvid.com, copying the link, then clicking a script shortcut from my old G3 player package which passes the video to youtube-dl/MPlayer.
Safari is superfast searching www.tonvid.com with the options I mentioned and the scripts allow me to either download the video and play/move it separately or download, watch and delete when finished.

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Is there any streamable option with mplayer on tonvid? Regardless, this is a good option, I really like mplayer and it's what I use if watching video on a G3. Anything I want from youtube, at 360p
 
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