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I love these threads, they always end up filled with 4-5 die hard fanboys circle jerking each other. The new iPhone does have serious problems, accept it. I find it hilarious that NOW you want to compare Apple to other products.

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In less than ideal coverage, other phones held in "wrong" position will also drop calls. I hope the upcoming software update will make the phone choose stronger signal rather than spectrum with higher signal to noise ratio, which may not have the strongest signal.

No they don't. It's been established that the iPhone 4 attenuates worse than other iPhones and other popular phones.
 
Precisely. Who has a phone conversation using the death grip???

It's how I naturally hold the phone to my left ear and use data on the touch screen. Believe it or not, I didn't figure this whole left corner thing out by randomly looking for weaknesses. It's how I always use the damn phone.
 
Great thread! This must pain all of the trolls that seem to have flooded these forums lately. I guess they are going to find something else to complain about. Look out for a lot of proximity sensor sux! threads soon haha
 
Let's see the videos of these devices dropping bars when touched with one finger.

Oh, that's right, there aren't any because the iPhone 4 was designed poorly...

I was able to get my iPhone 3GS to also drop to 0 bars and lose internet connectivity by holding it in my left hand just like on my iPhone 4.

I wonder why it wasn't as big of a deal as now? I know some people complained by why so much now?
 
All phones have this signal issue. However, the iPhone 4 has its antenna in a less convenient place. This is a big deal for some people, and a complete non-issue for others. Maybe Apple will be able to do some software magic to either fix or help the issue, maybe they can't.

It's dumb to keep bitching at each other. Just wait for the update. If it doesn't fix your problem, get a different phone. It's really that simple.
 
All phones have this signal issue. However, the iPhone 4 has its antenna in a less convenient place. This is a big deal for some people, and a complete non-issue for others. Maybe Apple will be able to do some software magic to either fix or help the issue, maybe they can't.

It's dumb to keep bitching at each other. Just wait for the update. If it doesn't fix your problem, get a different phone. It's really that simple.

QFT!
 
It's how I naturally hold the phone to my left ear and use data on the touch screen. Believe it or not, I didn't figure this whole left corner thing out by randomly looking for weaknesses. It's how I always use the damn phone.

If you seriously talk on the phone using the death grip, you obviously haven't fully developed your motor skills yet.
 
Hey, look man. I'm just keeping it real. There's no way that anybody is holding there phone like that while on a call.

Please get it into your head, NO DEATH GRIP IS REQUIRED. The only thing necessary to make the IP4 drop it's signal strength is to touch the black band on the lower left of the phone.

Firstly, nearly all left-handed users will touch this spot with their palm when holding the phone to their ear. Some right handed users will touch this spot with their pinky when holding the phone to their ear.

In the picture below, note that the vast majority of the antenna IS NOT BEING COVERED UP.

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Secondly, nearly all right handed people (including Steve Jobs and many of the people in Apple's own advertising pictures) will touch this spot when holding the hand in their left hand to browse the web/text so that their dominant right hand is free to click/type - this will make their data signal drop drastically.

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Please stop spreading false information by saying all phones do this. Sure, it is true that all phones drop signal if you cover up their antenna BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE IP4. The problem the IP4 has is not due to covering the antenna, it is due to bridging 2 different antennas by touching a particular spot that just happens to be where most people naturally touch it. This problem is unique to the IP4, because only the IP4 has 2 external antennas that can be bridged by touch in this way.

I really hope you've got it now because people like you are just clouding the issue and are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
 
Hey, look man. I'm just keeping it real. There's no way that anybody is holding there phone like that while on a call.

Like I said, you've got something in your head that doesn't represent what's occurring. The vast number of people having issues should tell you a common grip causes loss of data and calls. The problem is not with the people, it's with the phone.
 
not to defend the promo stuff but the deathgrip only works with 3G not wifi all of the things they show in the promos being held the wrong way aren't influenced by deathgrip

with that aside lol uhh yah it's ****** to demo it being held the wrong way
 
Please stop spreading false information by saying all phones do this. Sure, it is true that all phones drop signal if you cover up their antenna BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE IP4. The problem the IP4 has is not due to covering the antenna, it is due to bridging 2 different antennas by touching a particular spot that just happens to be where most people naturally touch it. This problem is unique to the IP4, because only the IP4 has 2 external antennas that can be bridged by touch in this way.

I really hope you've got it now because people like you are just clouding the issue and are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Hmmm....must I bring up this video again? Seems like bridging the two antennas seems to be working out just fine for me :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0bd6ZNUP0

Btw, there are videos of the iP4 dropping bars without touching both the antenna. Read your instruction manual: BRIDGING NOT REQUIRED.
 
Let's see the videos of these devices dropping bars when touched with one finger.

Oh, that's right, there aren't any because the iPhone 4 was designed poorly...

Uh, I've still yet to see my iphone drop any connectivity from one finger. I've been able to replicate it sometimes (not to the point of dropping calls) but I have to cover it with my palm to get it to do it. Touching it with one finger does absolutely *nothing* to my phone.

So yes, I believe that holding that corner does make signal go down (and depending on how bad your connection is it may cause you to lose calls). I have a hard time believing that just one finger does it caues even when I have an easier time of replicating it (I can't get it to do it all the time), one finger does *nothing*. Maybe if your signal is very teneous and all it takes is something small to make it break (and this is what I think Apple is saying, that they have to admit they made the phone trick you into thinking you had great connection even when it's pretty weak. I do think Apple did the "error" they claim is what is causing people to think the antenna is unusually sensitive on purpose to make the phone look like it got better connection then it did).

And I'm supposed to give a flying **** what a blogger says? lol, no

Accept it or not, when my iPhone's antennas get connected by a finger, palm, penny, paperclip, soda can, you name it, it stops working. You're just so high and mighty you don't realize there is a major flaw with the antenna layout.

So you go around holding metal objects to your phone in your everyday use of it? Really?!

And honestly, if it's just one small corner, that's easy to avoid. I was more worried about not being able to hold that whole side. I can easily avoid that one corner.
 
Hmmm....must I bring up this video again? Seems like bridging the two antennas seems to be working out just fine for me :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0bd6ZNUP0

Btw, there are videos of the iP4 dropping bars without touching both the antenna. Read your instruction manual: BRIDGING NOT REQUIRED.

Read the Anandtech article for a good explanation of what you're seeing at five bars. Bars are meaningless by Apple's own words.
 
I have a hard time believing that just one finger does it caues even when I have an easier time of replicating it (I can't get it to do it all the time), one finger does *nothing*.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzn8QhrYIvI&

Maybe if your signal is very teneous and all it takes is something small to make it break (and this is what I think Apple is saying, that they have to admit they made the phone trick you into thinking you had great connection even when it's pretty weak.

The signal is so weak only the original iPhone, 3G, and 3GS can function, but not the iPhone 4?
 
Apple could have just used this thread for the first 10 minutes of their press conference today.
 
This thread is laughable at best. Most of them are holding their phones in contrived or totally abnormal ways. The iPhone ***** itself during normal holding and usage.

The press conference today was appalling, and because of Apple's denial of the issue, I will not be getting an iPhone 4, which I had planned on doing.
 
This thread is laughable at best. Most of them are holding their phones in contrived or totally abnormal ways. The iPhone ***** itself during normal holding and usage.

The press conference today was appalling, and because of Apple's denial of the issue, I will not be getting an iPhone 4, which I had planned on doing.

That's a shame. For you. The iPhone 4 is fantastic. I've owned a heck of a lot of cell phones including all generations of the IP and this thing just blows them all away. This signal issue is so frickin minor and doesn't have any practical impact on most users.

My home is in an AT&T death zone. No AT&T phone gets more than 3 bars on a good day here and usual only 1. Call dropping is a fact of life for use. True across an incredible number of phones including 8 different iPhones of all generations that have been in our household. Then came the 2 IP4s we have so far. They acquire and hold signal better than any previous phone here in our house. Love it.

I love when people let the internet decide things for them. Go get one and see if it works for you. If not, just return it. No big deal.
 
This thread is laughable at best. Most of them are holding their phones in contrived or totally abnormal ways. The iPhone ***** itself during normal holding and usage.

The press conference today was appalling, and because of Apple's denial of the issue, I will not be getting an iPhone 4, which I had planned on doing.

Brand new Droid X loses all bars held normally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFc9vnocIzQ

You is liar :D
 
iPhone fan boys you are so funny!

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You are so funny fanboys! Thanks for your free show! :D
 
I love these threads, they always end up filled with 4-5 die hard fanboys circle jerking each other. The new iPhone does have serious problems, accept it. I find it hilarious that NOW you want to compare Apple to other products.

I'm not a smart man but I know what a good phone is. The facts just don't back up your statement. I'm not a "die hard fanboy" and I'm certainly not circle jerking any one. I however have 0 issues with my i4. Let me say it again for those that are hard of reading..... I have 0 issues with my i4.
The fact that you and others like you keep slamming your head against the wall trying to convince us that it's a wide spread issue is the really funny part of this thread.
I can death grip my phone, touch it in "the spot" with no loss of signal pretty much 99% of the time. The other 1% was an issue for my 3g and 3gs so I'm not gonna hate on the 4, it's nothing new. I in fact get better service in many places.
If you and other "haters" in this thread can't understand that it's not a wide spread issue, then those, with no problems will never be able to convince you.

Hmmm....must I bring up this video again? Seems like bridging the two antennas seems to be working out just fine for me
You're a liar!! No way that video is real! We all know that if you hold the phone like that it doesn't work.... I smell fanboy!! :rolleyes:
I can death grip my phone all day without issue, nice to see you put the vid up.... now what are they gonna say when there is video PROOF?
 
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