Verizon and Google Working on Android Based Tablet

[Sasha-1]

You are arguing a developer problem, not an OS problem. The OS is plenty capable to do everything the iPhone OS can, its just that some apps are not up to the standard that the iPhone's are. Apps like "Shazam" should be identical though. Not sure if iPhone has "Where" or not either.

There is a UPS mobile App. I'm sure there is a FedEx one as well.

I think they both have really good apps. Obviously there are going to be some differences there. I do everything that I need/want to do on my Droid everyday, so I don't have much to worry about. I'm pleased with the browsing experience, speed, etc...

I know the App Store has more apps...probably has a lot to do with it.

Deliveries supports more than 30 carriers in one app. And since it runs iPhone os they have it for both iPhone and the iPad in hd. Ever play plants vs zombies? Where is that?

I'm sure it's capable of doing the same thing but it doesn't. You have no one watching over it and demanding high quality from the developers. So what you get is a ton of garbage.

No thanks.

I'll stick with the quality platform.

 

[macsmurf]

They are saying more competition is good. Yeah right, we have suffered thru MSDOS/Win for so long. Same case with IE after netscape's failure.

Netscape was killed by MS => for years IE was the de facto standard on the internet. This causes a lot of problems even today. In other words, competition is good. No competition is bad.

You're right about Android overtaking iPhone OS. In fact, it has already happened.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20100510005773&newsLang=en

 

[Lord Vader]

iPad killer - maybe third times the charm?

Unlikely.

 

[dukebound85]

How long until these tablets are refereed to as the "iPad killer"?

iPod killer - still waiting

I think we are past the ipod era as phones are now one's music players but yes, as dedicated players you are right

iPhone killer - still waiting

Maybe you are but in case you haven't noticed, android is outperforming iphone sales according to latest figures

iPad killer - maybe third times the charm?

Considering the ipad just launched, hard to say it has cemented its place as number one

 

[Tofaa]

You're right about Android overtaking iPhone OS. In fact, it has already happened.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20100510005773&newsLang=en

Apples reply to the NPD report casts doubt on that

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...es_says_npd_data_doesnt_tell_whole_story.html

 

[Lord Vader]

I think we are past the ipod era as phones are now one's music players but yes, as dedicated players you are right

You think wrong. Apple still sells millions of iPods.

Maybe you are but in case you haven't noticed, android is outperforming iphone sales according to latest figures

And it's indication of what? Killer should be a superior experience which Android is not.

Considering the ipad just launched, hard to say it has cemented its place as number one

A tip for you is that it launched and Apple is having hard time meeting the demand.

 

[macsmurf]

Apples reply to the NPD report casts doubt on that

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...es_says_npd_data_doesnt_tell_whole_story.html

Fair enough, I don't think it makes sense arguing one way or the other. Android will in all probability overtake iPhone OS if it hasn't already happened.

 

[dukebound85]

You think wrong. Apple still sells millions of iPods.

ok? Do you disagree that the industry is moving to the merging of phones and mp3 players? You know...since that was my point lol

And it's indication of what? Killer should be a superior experience which Android is not.

That is debatable. The Android OS is a great alternative

Funny how you mention sales amount in the first point (ipod) but then try to downplay it with this one lol

A tip for you is that it launched and Apple is having hard time meeting the demand.

And a tip for you....it is currently the only viable game in town. How about we wait until the android option comes into play before we say Apple "won"

 

[Lord Vader]

ok? Do you disagree that the industry is moving to the merging of phones and mp3 players? You know...since that was my point lol

Don't lol me. iPod sales are still strong and even going up few percent every year. You are right about phones, but people pretty much still want mp3 players.

That is debatable. The Android OS is a great alternative
Funny how you mention sales amount in the first point (ipod) but then try to downplay it with this one lol

Downplay? These are two different things.

And a tip for you....it is currently the only viable game in town. How about we wait until the android option comes into play before we say Apple "won"

Right and android tablet will change nothing because essiantially we are talking OS here.

 

[ranReloaded]

Google: "We weren't the First to this party and we won't be the Best either".

 

[dukebound85]

Don't lol me. iPod sales are still strong and even going up few percent every year. You are right about phones, but people pretty much still want mp3 players.

iPod sales are, in fact, declining.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/168798/apple_ipod_sales_slow_but_iphone_makes_up_for_it.html

The industry is moving away from dedicated music players to devices that incorporate that functionality ala smart phones

I think it is safe to say that the golden age of the iPod has passed

Downplay? These are two different things.

How so? You say the ipod is the dominant player due to sales but dismiss sales figures for the android os? How is that consistent?

Right and android tablet will change nothing because essiantially we are talking OS here.

Exactly...the same android os that is selling more than the iphone platform

I gather you prefer the iphone os but that fact doesn't make it "better", not by a long shot

Don't get me wrong, I like the apple solution. However to say that apple has "won" the phone and tablet platform is extremely premature at this point

Seems familiar to the OS wars of the 80s/90s imo

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

I'm sure it's capable of doing the same thing but it doesn't. You have no one watching over it and demanding high quality from the developers. So what you get is a ton of garbage.

No thanks.

I'll stick with the quality platform.

Would that be the quality Fart apps, or the quality flickering lighter ones?

You don't have to look too far to find issues with quality elsewhere as well. That being said, I do think Apple has the far superior product and way of doing things. I know some people hate iTunes, but I like using it. A lot actually. Combined with the iPad, it just makes a nice seamless experience to have all your apps in one place for your various devices.

 

[lazyrighteye]

I dunno, i still have a problem with Google being on Apple's board and then popping out the Android and now a tablet. And now Verizon wants the iPhone after turning it down. They can't have it and so they are determined to destroy it along with Google. These are not the kinds of people I'd want as my partners.

Plus. One.

 

[kdarling]

Apples reply to the NPD report casts doubt on that

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...es_says_npd_data_doesnt_tell_whole_story.html

Apple's PR department simply tried to redirect the discussion away from the USA where Apple was falling behind, to worldwide sales where Apple still has the lead. But as Intomobile put it:

With that being said, let’s hope that Apple is just blustering for the public’s sake and doesn’t truly believe the competition isn’t catching up.

I have news for you Steve Jobs: there are handsets out there that are just as good, if not better than the iPhone (some even look better than next-gen iPhone).

I’m talking about handsets like the EVO 4G, Droid Incredible and some of Dell’s upcoming smartphones are downright lust-worthy.

It'll be interesting to see what happens at WWDC.

 

[shervieux]

I had been a long time PC user, and got totally fedup in 2008. Now I hate MS with the exception of a few things (MS Office and MS OneNote). I have a Lenovo table, but it is running Vista Home Premium, and I hate that OS. Win 7 is not much better either (maybe a little faster and a little more stable - but it still has its issues). I now have a macbook and would not go back.

I had many cell phones from many different companies (sprint, alltel, nextel, AT&T, Celluar One, etc). My best dumbphone was the old bag phones. my best smartphone is the iphone.

I had many PDA's from Palm, and other companies. Like I said I also had many touch type computers (or ones that had it in the OS, but was a real computer), also have a lenovo tablet. so far my best one to combine mobilecomputing, PDA, etc has been the ipad.

I heard from a few people I know who bought droid, yeah it has apps - but they been far from happy with the quality of them. Also some told me the handsets feel really cheap like they could break.

As for a droid tablet, It may have initial success - but what I do not like about Google - Gmail seems to not want to work very often and google docs have been less than impressive. Also they killed google notebook which was ok. Plus I do not like how google parses your email and displays adds based on your email content.

I seriously think many people will try it, but will find the google experience rather disappointing. Also verizon is not known for good customer service of it's existing customers. I know many family that has dropped them over billing issues and them being unwilling to port phone numbers to/from other networks. Also I had one family member move. She went to change her address and her phone number to a new local number to the area she was living. they tried to make her sign a new 2 year contract, and also tried to charge her an early termination fee. give me a break - she was not breaking her contract. She just wanted to change her address and get a new number. She was staying with them, and was not even asking for a new phone.

 

[kyleh613]

MS have been trying tablet for 10+ years, now once Apple introduces everyone wants to join in. Same story with Mac, IBM was sleeping till Apple come up with a personal computer. Then IBM+MS took over the market.

Actually a news article posted on this very website a few weeks back, points to companies deciding to drop out of the tablet market. Microsoft and HP (also Dell I believe?) so far have bowed out. HP had the most promising tablet by far.

 

[LagunaSol]

I can't stand using my wife's Android phone. It's buggy, slow, freezes, and feels cheap.

But it was $29 with contract so she got it. This is EXACTLY what killed off the Apple back in the 80's: cheap.

Android is pretty crap, but it is cheap and it is "good enough".

I also have an Android product in addition to my iPhone 3GS. It's awful. I don't know people can stand the software on the thing. Android is truly a hype machine.

Shhh, you guys are going to anger the Android Army.

Coattail ride much? I mean if Apple just announced the iCar, we would be sure to hear from Google a month later about how they are working on the Cardroid.

No surprise, really. Google has their destination on Google Maps Navigation set to "Apple."

 

[fifthworld]

Doesn't matter. Nothing can really compete with the App Store.

 

[kas23]

Apples reply to the NPD report casts doubt on that

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...es_says_npd_data_doesnt_tell_whole_story.html

Of course Apple would try to spin it like this. What did you really expect them to say? I especially love how they say the competition is not catching up. If that is true, what did they even bother to respond to this report?

 

[RHatton]

Deliveries supports more than 30 carriers in one app. And since it runs iPhone os they have it for both iPhone and the iPad in hd. Ever play plants vs zombies? Where is that?

I'm sure it's capable of doing the same thing but it doesn't. You have no one watching over it and demanding high quality from the developers. So what you get is a ton of garbage.

No thanks.

I'll stick with the quality platform.

Exactly. Google's biggest problem is their happy go lucky open platform idea. Similar to the business model of microsoft they allow multiple manufacturers to produce phones with various versions of their OS. The problem with this is it also opens the door to malware, crappy development/platform optimization and no quality control. When someones apps don't work they blame the phone, not the developer. This is for the general public of course. Everyone here is likely educated enough to know the difference. If you don't keep a tight lid on your product the quality slips and so does sales.

 

[doubchoc]

no way! NO WAY!

....

 

[Wampahoofus]

The droid is nice but I wish people would stop saying it's on the better network. No network is the best everywhere and it all depends on where you are.

Thank you! I agree. I live in Wisconsin and had AT&T for a while before switching back to Verizon. Since then, I haven't had nearly as many problems as I did with AT&T, and no, I don't live in the middle of nowhere. Voice+data simultaneously is nice, but doesn't make one bit of difference if your coverage sucks. If I drove 3 minutes outside of my city (did a lot for work), I'd lose reception. Simply put, it depends where you live, and how much of an iPhone fanboy you are.

I'll stick with my network that actually works.

 

[Winni]

MS have been trying tablet for 10+ years, now once Apple introduces everyone wants to join in. Same story with Mac, IBM was sleeping till Apple come up with a personal computer. Then IBM+MS took over the market.

Same story with Google and android after the introduction of iPhone.

Oh well, apple will always be sidelined with bigger players. They are saying more competition is good. Yeah right, we have suffered thru MSDOS/Win for so long. Same case with IE after netscape's failure.

But google is better than MS, so won't mind using a google phone once apple get sidelined again.

The real message here is that Apple's proprietary closed shop and walled garden business model has always failed and the open platform has always won. And compared to the Mac and the iPhone, Windows -is- an open (enough) platform: Everybody can build computers that run it without having to pay license fees. Everybody can build a mobile device that runs Android without having to pay a special license fee to Google.

Steve Jobs still dreams of this IBM-style monopoly where everybody is using exclusively his products. It's never going to happen.

In two years from now, Apple will start playing its "underdog" charade again and they will be repeating their "everybody stole this idea from us" marketing strategy.

The funny thing is, Apple could own the market for mobile platforms if they just licensed iPhone OS to everybody else. Heck, if Apple had done this from the very beginning there wouldn't have been a need for Android in the first place.

But, just like with the Mac and Windows, history is going to repeat itself.

And the platform that everybody can use will win.

 

[BaldiMac]

Exactly...the same android os that is selling more than the iphone platform

The android OS is not selling more than the iPhone OS. One survey found evidence that all Android devices have outsold iPhones only (no iPod touches or iPads) in the US market for one quarter.

 

[Lord Vader]

The real message here is that Apple's proprietary closed shop and walled garden business model has always failed and the open platform has always won. And compared to the Mac and the iPhone, Windows -is- an open (enough) platform: Everybody can build computers that run it without having to pay license fees. Everybody can build a mobile device that runs Android without having to pay a special license fee to Google.

Steve Jobs still dreams of this IBM-style monopoly where everybody is using exclusively his products. It's never going to happen.

In two years from now, Apple will start playing its "underdog" charade again and they will be repeating their "everybody stole this idea from us" marketing strategy.

The funny thing is, Apple could own the market for mobile platforms if they just licensed iPhone OS to everybody else. Heck, if Apple had done this from the very beginning there wouldn't have been a need for Android in the first place.

But, just like with the Mac and Windows, history is going to repeat itself.

And the platform that everybody can use will win.

Brainless.