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Might what to check in on that ... There was a report about a user who pulled 95 TB on T-Mo home internet without getting capped or terminated "for abuse". Story seems to say he pull 600-700 mbps the whole time.

I can't say I've followed up on the story. But, the service seems to be positioned entirely different then mobile handset plans.
The issue is, if someone else tried to pull a lot of data near the end of their billing cycle would they have seen reduced speeds? If so, that's a data cap.
 
Agreed, I turned off 5G on my phone because of how spotty it is. 4G/LTE is consistently faster, especially in other countries, but I think that is due to more freedom in Europe because the US blocks some frequencies (tv stations use them, the US gov isn't blocking).
I use 5G in both and US and Europe and find it's good. Europe blocks plenty of frequencies too but OTA TV in Europe is entirely in the UHF band whilst the US still has some stations broadcasting on VHF.
 
What does this map even refer to? The green areas are the new areas covered by 5g UW?
The green areas are the top 46 PEAs which is where Verizon and AT&T are allowed to deploy c-band this year. An exact map will not be made public until launch.
 
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I use 5G in both and US and Europe and find it's good. Europe blocks plenty of frequencies too but OTA TV in Europe is entirely in the UHF band whilst the US still has some stations broadcasting on VHF.
I remember using 3G/4G in Kenya and it was faster than present-day LTE speeds. We really need to switch the TV stations from VHF so LTE advanced can take over. 5G is not needed when LTE advanced excels in everything else. Maybe in stadiums or airports sure but not for cities where interferences are everywhere. Too expensive and too much power consumption.
 
Interference can be dangerous, I am not sure how that is not an issue. Especially from the cell towers, and if they are close to the airport can interfere with the radio altimeter. The good grace of ATT, Verizon delaying should not be their choice. I know they are implemented in other countries but also the application is too.
I've done a good bit of research into this and as an electronic and electrical engineer I can assure you, this is nothing more than an FAA over reaction as they were caught asleep at the wheel with numerous Boeing failings.

The distance between the altimeter radar band and the 5G (C-band) is more than adequate for safety and is safely used around the world. Verizon and AT&T are in the right here, the FAA and Boeing/Airbus are massively over reacting.

I would never want aircraft safety sacrificed for faster 5G speeds.
 
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I remember using 3G/4G in Kenya and it was faster than present-day LTE speeds. We really need to switch the TV stations from VHF so LTE advanced can take over. 5G is not needed when LTE advanced excels in everything else. Maybe in stadiums or airports sure but not for cities where interferences are everywhere. Too expensive and too much power consumption.
The VHF band is so low as to be next to useless for cellular data. There's not even an LTE or NR band that uses it.


5G is better than LTE-A, it's about 20% more efficient bit/Hz and has other improvements with MIMO, latency etc. It would be foolish not to move to it given how limited bandwidth is. mmWave is next to useless in my opinion, but sub6GHz 5G is not. It's not a huge improvement like moving from 3G to 4G was as that was a move to packet switched cellular networking but 5G is an improvement - albeit overhyped and modest.
 
I remember using 3G/4G in Kenya and it was faster than present-day LTE speeds. We really need to switch the TV stations from VHF so LTE advanced can take over. 5G is not needed when LTE advanced excels in everything else. Maybe in stadiums or airports sure but not for cities where interferences are everywhere. Too expensive and too much power consumption.
What frequency do you think VHF uses and what frequency do you think cellular uses? Because they are not close.
 
Might what to check in on that ... There was a report about a user who pulled 95 TB on T-Mo home internet without getting capped or terminated "for abuse". Story seems to say he pull 600-700 mbps the whole time.

I can't say I've followed up on the story. But, the service seems to be positioned entirely different then mobile handset plans.
Now if only US cellular plans did such. My Europe SIM costs something like £30/m and is actually unlimited, including tethering. Meanwhile there's not a single truly unlimited plan with tethering. I find everything is cheaper in the US, except for cell service and ISP's.
 
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They use C-Band in France without issue, and with only a 100 mhz guard band. Verizon and AT&T offered a 200 mhz guard band, and then added 20 more to it. This is 3.7-3.9 ghz, yet aircrafts altimeters - old ones - run at 4.2. If they're bleeding that much outside their assigned band, that's a massive problem and not for land based applications. No, for the aircrafts it's a huge safety problems. If they're bleeding that much, how accurate are they, really?
This is exactly the point I raised. The space between the C-band and radar altimeters is more than safe enough. This is just the FCC overreacting as they completely fell asleep at the wheel and then Boeing flew two planes into the ground. It's used all around the world without issue.

If your planes radar altimeter is having issues with this then that plane needs the radar altimeter repaired or replaced.
 
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Verizon 5G Home... no data caps, speeds up to a gig. 50 bucks if you already have their mobile service, 70 without.

Also, Verizon just today announced no soft data caps on their unlimited wireless lines -- well, the most expensive one they have with a silly name. They're the last of the big 3 to do it, but they did......
...with a pathetic tethering cap
 
So…5G (at least on a major carrier like AT&T) charges you extra for a service that has the same speeds as 4G LTE.

And what’s worse, I’ve been to Washington DC, NYC, and other big cities, and have yet to find 5G+ mmwave
There are a few spots around DC, like a park near me. Tested it last December right after I got my 12 Pro.
 

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Is it just me or is it anyone else’s experience that Verizon’s 5G has been worse than, or at best exactly the same as 4G?
I’ll agree with that. I’d say, for me, 70% of the time, I can’t tell a difference. Now, parts of the city which have UW or other fast bands, I sure as hell can-but that’s literally in a handful of places.
 
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Is it just me or is it anyone else’s experience that Verizon’s 5G has been worse than, or at best exactly the same as 4G?
It depends on the area. Low band or “nationwide” 5G from Verizon uses something called DSS.

DSS shares the spectrum between 4G and 5G. Depending on the area, 5G could be overloaded. Think of it like a 5 lane highway where 2 lanes are 4G and 3 lanes are 5G.

5G UW is an entire new highway.
 
You bring up a good example use case, because the future of broadcast TV is actively shifting to better embrace the fact that everyone is carrying around a portable HDTV in their pockets now, and we really need a more robust wireless network that can support full-quality smooth and reliable broadcast streams.

Do we really "need it" though?
lol
 
Now if only US cellular plans did such. My Europe SIM costs something like £30/m and is actually unlimited, including tethering. Meanwhile there's not a single truly unlimited plan with tethering. I find everything is cheaper in the US, except for cell service and ISP's.

Does it provide that all through Europe? My Vodaphone plan, for a wireless hotspot, has that but only in the country where the service is located.
 
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I've always been curious about such '5G speeds' being an improvement on a mobile device with a mobile browser.

How much faster is THE most difficult website loading between 4G LTE and 5G on an iPhone via Safari, FF, etc??
Are your: emails, iCloud data, and apps sync'ing data noticeable faster?
Is iOS been coded at its core were such data will sync faster or say iCloud folder content simultaneously?
^ example 5 folders with mp4 videos, another 8 with PDF, Word, Excel documents and other 40 folders with lots of pictures taken from iPhone ... are they sync'ing linearly folder by folder (via the categories mentioned) or are they ALL sync'ing at once?

I ask because I'm on 4G LTE and it's somewhat noticeably faster over 3G for me north of the border across 3 carriers I've tried but not much difference - signal strength not been a factor in my comparisons of 3G to 4G LTE.

I can't imagine actually noticing a difference on my phone. I live near a place that has the service. But by "have the service" I mean there is literally a one block area kind of near my house which if I happen to be in a store on that block, I get 5G. It is kind of amazing to see my phone test out with 1,200 mbps download speeds. But unless I set up shop on that block, use my phone's cell connection for a hotspot, and then do some serious work on a laptop using that hotspot, I'm not sure how I would ever notice in comparison to a solid 4G LTE connection.
 
The frequencies are close to the ones used by aircraft when trying to land. 5G is already used in France, US companies just want to implement more bands. I am sure they are doing research to see how safe it is but ATT, Verizon is definitely trying to get their way asap which can be dangerous.
Wrong.
 
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