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50 GB then throttled to 3 Mbps is not too bad.
I thought it’s 30GB? Either way, it’s still pathetic compared to my European SIM plan. I don’t understand how carriers are allowed to call something unlimited when it is clearly not. It would be illegal in Europe.
 

Reliable 5G home internet now just $50 a month.

Is there a data cap on the T-Mobile Home Internet service?
Nope! There are no data caps on our 5G Home Internet service.

Not worth it at this time. This is one of many reviews I have found with the same conclusion.

 
Does it provide that all through Europe? My Vodaphone plan, for a wireless hotspot, has that but only in the country where the service is located.
No but the allowance is big. Show me a US plan with unlimited data abroad - there isn't any. I'm arguing for unlimited data in the country a SIM was purchased and used.
 
I thought it’s 30GB? Either way, it’s still pathetic compared to my European SIM plan. I don’t understand how carriers are allowed to call something unlimited when it is clearly not. It would be illegal in Europe.
Well, Vodaphone does in the EU but throttles after 200gb.
No but the allowance is big. Show me a US plan with unlimited data abroad - there isn't any. I'm arguing for unlimited data in the country a SIM was purchased and used.
TMobile Magenta(low speed) or Max(2x Magenta). Also free texting. Magenta is good enough for VoIP and light surfing such as I am now doing in Europe.

Plus, unlimited data is good throughout the US , an area about the size of the EU.
 
Just yesterday I switched carriers from Verizon to our cable provider. Nine lines was $320/month on Verizon, now it’s $170/month. They use Verizon’s towers. Embarrassed it took me this long to do it.
 
Just yesterday I switched carriers from Verizon to our cable provider. Nine lines was $320/month on Verizon, now it’s $170/month. They use Verizon’s towers. Embarrassed it took me this long to do it.
Quite a few people I know, including family, are heading off to other services like Mint Mobile and saving some serious $.

Due to me being on a Verizon Wireless 5 line family plan with a corporate discount, we are paying about $42.95/line vs the $30/line (before taxes/fees) on most MVNOs. Otherwise I'd be in a bit more of a hurry to move. A lot of these MVNOs have amazing 6 month/1 year savings (for the first year).
 
Just yesterday I switched carriers from Verizon to our cable provider. Nine lines was $320/month on Verizon, now it’s $170/month. They use Verizon’s towers. Embarrassed it took me this long to do it.
Just note, while they may use some of Verizon's towers, they also have a lower priority than Verizon's own high tier customers. So your speeds may be slower depending on network conditions.
 
Around here (Philly metro) the sorta pseudo 5G VZW has is almost always slower than 4G. I’ve been running my 13 PM in LTE mode almost everywhere and I get better speeds. I’ve verified this with regular speed tests. For the most part, unless you’re in range of mm wave coverage, VZW’s LTE is currently faster than the 5G offering. In the locations where the mm wave equipment is installed, it’s absolutely insanely fast. Places like stadiums and some resort areas around here. Other than that, the mm wave service is non existent and not worth the premium tier price I’m shelling out to VZW every month.

I have high hopes for the C band deployment, and was looking forward to that going live today until the radar altimeter nonsense reared it’s ugly head again and put it off another 2 weeks. IMHO, the cell operators paid Billions (with a b) for the spectrum and installed the equipment, then the FAA got upset. As someone with both experience in the world of RF, and a licensed pilot, there’s no good reason this is dragging out like this. It should have been resolved long before the FCC auctioned off the spectrum and got paid.

Imagine buying land expecting to build a house, building it, and then being told you can’t move in for “reasons”. Up until the house was ready for occupancy, everything was fine. Now that you want to move in, we’re altering the deal. Whatever they ask for, you gotta give them. You spent ALL this money on the land, the house, etc. you can’t just walk away from it.

And the airlines know it…
 
I've always been curious about such '5G speeds' being an improvement on a mobile device with a mobile browser.

How much faster is THE most difficult website loading between 4G LTE and 5G on an iPhone via Safari, FF, etc??
Are your: emails, iCloud data, and apps sync'ing data noticeable faster?
Is iOS been coded at its core were such data will sync faster or say iCloud folder content simultaneously?
^ example 5 folders with mp4 videos, another 8 with PDF, Word, Excel documents and other 40 folders with lots of pictures taken from iPhone ... are they sync'ing linearly folder by folder (via the categories mentioned) or are they ALL sync'ing at once?

I ask because I'm on 4G LTE and it's somewhat noticeably faster over 3G for me north of the border across 3 carriers I've tried but not much difference - signal strength not been a factor in my comparisons of 3G to 4G LTE.
lol iOS does not need to be re-written for speed improvements to matter, this is not how modern operating systems work. If your network is faster things will load faster.

However, LTE is faster than I need already, so I still see your point that 5G isn't that necessary for today's world.
 

To all those worrying about the non-issue that was C-band 5G and radar altimeters, we were right, this was a non-issue and the FAA has finally backed down. A 220MHz guard band and a large exclusion zone around airports is more than adequate. If anything they are just wasting a lot of valuable and useful spectrum..
 
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Which park? I’ve been wanting to try 5G+ for years now lol
Long Bridge Park. It’s marked on Verizon’s coverage map, along with Washington Circle, the entrance outside Union Station and several spots along the Mall.

However, if you really meant 5G+, that’s AT&T, so don’t go looking on Verizon’s coverage map.
 
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The issue is, if someone else tried to pull a lot of data near the end of their billing cycle would they have seen reduced speeds? If so, that's a data cap.
Why would it have to be "near the end" of a billing cycle? If the T-Mobile home internet service had a throttle, slow-down, soft cap, deprioritzation, or whatever -- then 95 TB should have triggered it regardless. The user reported an average of 600-700 mbps throughput.

Now, that story was back in November around the public launch of the service - I haven't followed up on that so things could have changed. Maybe that T-Mobile allowed this person to be able to pull 95TB without slowdown was an oversight. But, the T-mobile website does say: "Is there a data cap on the T-Mobile Home Internet service? Nope! There are no data caps on our 5G Home Internet service."

Now, I do think it's _valuable_ to quibble if "no-cap" is the same as "no-throttle". But, if a slowdown doesn't happen inside of the first 95TB then effectively there is no throttle and arguing over what "no-cap" means is moot.

Absolutely it'd be nice to have a follow up with the individual and find out 1) If they're still a user (i.e. not banned or terminated) 2) Whether overall service quality has stayed up or had degraded for them 3) If they've subsequently found any throttle or slowdown in the months following their 95TB utilization in November.

Now if only US cellular plans did such. My Europe SIM costs something like £30/m and is actually unlimited, including tethering. Meanwhile there's not a single truly unlimited plan with tethering. I find everything is cheaper in the US, except for cell service and ISP's.
Not being European myself I'd have to think you might have EU wide laws that discourage or prohibit the US practice. I'm likely wrong and could be it's just that your cellular providers are more benevolent then ours. Or proper competition provides for such.

The US is backwards on quite a number of different things. That said, it was actually US T-Mobile that destroyed ATT and VZW regarding cellular service and contracts. As much as US cellular customers want to complain about how 3rd rate T-Mobile was (or still is) it was them that forced both ATT and VZW into bringing back unlimited and the no monetary penalty structure we have now. Forced them to abandon their abusive tiered and capped data structure that punished you with overage fees if you did not spend enough / buy enough data each month.

Actual unlimited, not this faux unlimited, would clearly be better. But, I've got to ask you, as a European, to what extent is it actually necessary? I mean, are Europeans routinely using their cellular hotspot data as home "terrestrial" Wi-fi? Running hundreds of gigs of data from their laptop or desktop computers though their unlimited mobile data plans? i.e. is that actually unlimited tethered mobile data actually being put to use?
 
Why would it have to be "near the end" of a billing cycle? If the T-Mobile home internet service had a throttle, slow-down, soft cap, deprioritzation, or whatever -- then 95 TB should have triggered it regardless. The user reported an average of 600-700 mbps throughput.

Now, that story was back in November around the public launch of the service - I haven't followed up on that so things could have changed. Maybe that T-Mobile allowed this person to be able to pull 95TB without slowdown was an oversight. But, the T-mobile website does say: "Is there a data cap on the T-Mobile Home Internet service? Nope! There are no data caps on our 5G Home Internet service."

Now, I do think it's _valuable_ to quibble if "no-cap" is the same as "no-throttle". But, if a slowdown doesn't happen inside of the first 95TB then effectively there is no throttle and arguing over what "no-cap" means is moot.

Absolutely it'd be nice to have a follow up with the individual and find out 1) If they're still a user (i.e. not banned or terminated) 2) Whether overall service quality has stayed up or had degraded for them 3) If they've subsequently found any throttle or slowdown in the months following their 95TB utilization in November.


Not being European myself I'd have to think you might have EU wide laws that discourage or prohibit the US practice. I'm likely wrong and could be it's just that your cellular providers are more benevolent then ours. Or proper competition provides for such.

The US is backwards on quite a number of different things. That said, it was actually US T-Mobile that destroyed ATT and VZW regarding cellular service and contracts. As much as US cellular customers want to complain about how 3rd rate T-Mobile was (or still is) it was them that forced both ATT and VZW into bringing back unlimited and the no monetary penalty structure we have now. Forced them to abandon their abusive tiered and capped data structure that punished you with overage fees if you did not spend enough / buy enough data each month.

Actual unlimited, not this faux unlimited, would clearly be better. But, I've got to ask you, as a European, to what extent is it actually necessary? I mean, are Europeans routinely using their cellular hotspot data as home "terrestrial" Wi-fi? Running hundreds of gigs of data from their laptop or desktop computers though their unlimited mobile data plans? i.e. is that actually unlimited tethered mobile data actually being put to use?
My issue is that they could throttle. It has nothing to do with if they do. And I also take issue with their lower plans that claim unlimited data but restrict video streaming quality. If I pay for the bandwidth to download 8k video without buffering I sure expect to play it. I shouldn’t have to pay more to unlock access to higher quality content other people provide.
 
Awesome!

I have the iPhone 13 Pro and the 5G speeds on Verizon are a huge improvement over 4G

I get 4 or 5 bars of service on Verizon pretty much everywhere I go here in the Boston area

My relatives live in Cleveland, Ohio and I haven’t been there since the pandemic started but I’m hoping that the 5G coverage out there is everywhere once I go back to visit

What are you able to do on 5G that you weren't able to do on 4G????
 
Just yesterday I switched carriers from Verizon to our cable provider. Nine lines was $320/month on Verizon, now it’s $170/month. They use Verizon’s towers. Embarrassed it took me this long to do it.
I'm glad you're saving money! And wow! 9 lines, that'a bunch!!! You must have a huge family!!!!
 
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