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Verizon Claims Network Ready for iPhone Should Apple Choose to Strike Deal
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I know what he meant and I'll say it again. Its not what he said, its how he said it.
Your assessment is correct.
Let's compare the following statements:
A rational and unbiased way to describe a problem:
An oddly biased approach, pitting a specific phone, with no mention of the carrier, against a specific OS and a specific carrier:
Might there be an agenda here?
You decide.
Being from Canada, and seeing multiple networks carry the iPhone now (after a few years of exclusivity from Rogers) don't you guys think that it's possible to have multiple carriers inside the US if apple has done that in other countries?
Just wondering because from what I've read, most people are a little skeptical about it.
Just wondering because from what I've read, most people are a little skeptical about it.
A specific phone that is exclusive to one carrier. Please, think. In the US, how can you separate the Iphone from AT&T? A few days ago I said "nice phone on a sucky carrier == sucky phone". Note that this thread is about Verizon?
The WinMo/Verizon statement is to anchor that it's a smartphone on another carrier that we're comparing.
What about apologizing for your long-winded insult due to the fact that you confused the dates? I notice that you don't respond when you're proven to be in error.
Import one for overseas, I'm more than happy to export phones form New Zealand.
Doesn't even have to be an agenda. The hot new form of Prejudice is sub-conscious discrimination.
No dates were confused, as no date was specified at the outset.
You, however, seem to be averting the issue.
Nonsense.
You glibly stated that "the Iphones were useless. The Verizon phones worked fine."
The issue here, is that you deemed the iPhone useless, when it was indeed functional, while stating that the Verizon phones worked fine, all without addressing the fact that AT&T's lack of data signal might have been a factor.
Unlike kdarlings post, you chose to make a snide condemnation of the phone itself.
Yes, this is true, although it might well be more of a conscious effort than a sub-conscious one, in this case.
Boy, are you in denial. If on Monday someone types "Saturday night my husband and I were in the city" on a real-time message board, it should be pretty clear that the most recent Saturday night is the reference. You're backpedaling so fast that your legs are a blur.
Again, in context it was "We needed to check theatre times...but the Iphones were useless."
They *were* useless for the task of checking the times. And not even an EDGE fallback so that they were "slow" instead of "useless" - the Iphone user said "I can't get anything".
And note the use of a past tense - "the Iphones were useless". I didn't start a new top-level thread saying "Iphones are useless", I said that in the context of a task they were useless at one point in time and space.
When the Iphone is exclusive to a carrier - it makes no practical difference to the end user if the tool is "useless" for a task because the tool is bad, or if it is useless because the carrier is bad. No practical difference at all.
You've got your knickers in a bunch over a couple of words, when most readers see the big picture that maybe an Iphone on Verizon would have been able to check the theatre times last Saturday.
Like MorphingDragon, you seem to be hung up on some perceived slight of Cupertino's little jewel. People looking at this in the broader context of this thread named "Verizon Claims Network Ready for iPhone Should Apple Choose to Strike Deal" will take it as a simple anecdote that last Saturday, at a certain restaurant in Hayes Valley, Verizon phones had a strong 3G signal and AT&T didn't even have EDGE.
And, Mr. Grammar Policeman - I don't see any posts by "kdarlings". Did you mean "kdarling's" ?
Aiden, I'm going to tell you now. Fix the inconsistencies.
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FTR, I dont have an iPhone nor do I care. Infact I have an N97 (Work paid for it). So I suggest you stop putting words into poeple mouths and keep your story the same if you have any chance of resisting Dmann.
And I'll ask you to point out the "inconsistencies".
"Useless for a particular task" is not the same as "useless" - no inconsistency.
"Useless for a particular task" doesn't imply it's useless because of inherent design or its carrier - it means that it can't do what you need at the point and time that you need that task. No inconsistency.
You two are deep-ending over one word - "useless". We had one need, the Iphone could not fulfill that need, it was "useless" for solving our problem. Other smartphones from a different carrier fulfilled our need. Simple.
But you are *not* talking about it.
Please point out the inconsistencies. If you can't describe what you think the flaws in my argument are, how can I improve my argument?
(And Mr. Grammar Policeman would point out that you are missing three apostrophes in two sentences.)
You call that backpedalling?
No, backpedalling would involve changing the story, altering what was previously stated in an attempt to rectify it, the way you so often do.
You mentioned Saturday, which happens to be a day, not a date. 12/12 just so happens to be a recent Saturday - nothing was changed.
Ironically, it seems that you're the one getting his panties in a twist, here:
No, they were not 'useless,' since calling the theatre for movie times would have been a feasible option.
Again, it seems that the only one here, with his knickers tied in a bunch, is you.
If the phone is able to function at the time; make a call, and run apps, it is not rendered useless - no practical difference, you say?
Your attempts at justifying your previous drivel remain entertaining - keep it up, you're almost backpedalling.
I've always been in favor of having the iPhone carried on Verizon's network.
You, however, seem to be the one hung up on, and quite perturbed by, Apple's success - your revealing denigrating remarks make this clear.
Once again, this will go down as one of the most notable moments, ever, for the Hypocrisy Hall of Fame:
He hypocritically attempts to point out a punctuation error, and in doing so, quite cluelessly, places the question mark after the quotation marks.
Priceless, in a most profound way.
Unless its formal writing I couldn't care less about punctuation.
I'll leave the inconsitencies to Dmann as he seems to be the one that cares about them... oh wait.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A WORD. I was talking about the Timbre and general feel. If you cant understand that, there's no point even trying to discuss this. A SINGLE WORD A SENTENCE DOES NOT MAKE.
The Chicago Manual of Style addresses this case, saying:
...so the question mark must go outside the quotation marks.
Wrong Again.
In this particular case, you are the one asking the question.
However, you're using the quotation marks as "air quotes," and not for an actual quotation.
The rule you cited does not apply.
Yes - because *I* am asking the question, the question mark does not belong inside the quotation from you, or inside my quoted suggestion for what you intended to write. You can't be serious about the "air quotes" remark, can you? I quoted from you, and offered a corrected version in quotes - not "air" quotes.
I think that the Chicago Manual of Style example is relevant - for the reason that they give (putting the question mark inside the quotes transfers the question to your statement, when the question is mine and therefore the question mark belongs outside).
Anyway, I'm through here - go ahead and post the last word, since that seems to be important to you. I won't respond unless you actually add some value to this tangent - and probably not even if you do.
Bingo.
Your quoted suggestion (single word extraction, hardly a quotation) has now become your quoted suggestion - it is apparently no longer mine, since you altered it, unless, you're attempting to put words into other's mouths.
We'll be more than willing to point out your inconsistencies, of which there are many, after a final round of holiday shopping.
What round, its already X-Mas day in the place that nobody is supposed to know about...
Any unusual holiday folklore down there, like Santa's sleigh being pulled by flying kangaroos?
"Roodolph the red-nosed 'roo, had a very shiny nose..."
I'm not Australian, I'm Kiwi and no not really. Theres some New Zealand Christmas carols but not on the strange spectrum.
As long as there's nothing involving sheep, fine!
(The 'roo bit was tongue-in-cheek, nothing sets a Kiwi off like a kangaroo joke
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As long as there's nothing involving sheep, fine!
(The 'roo bit was tongue-in-cheek, nothing sets a Kiwi off like a kangaroo joke
What setting off?
Verizon NOW - PLEASE!!
I used Verizon for years and was completely satisfied. One year ago I went to work for a company that provides AT&T service and I use a BB 9000.
ATT sucks! Dropped calls increasing, unavailable service/internet increasing. It has been the horrible experience I expected.
If iPhone goes to verizon - my family service goes there as well.
I used Verizon for years and was completely satisfied. One year ago I went to work for a company that provides AT&T service and I use a BB 9000.
ATT sucks! Dropped calls increasing, unavailable service/internet increasing. It has been the horrible experience I expected.
If iPhone goes to verizon - my family service goes there as well.