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Verizon Claims Network Ready for iPhone Should Apple Choose to Strike Deal

How about we launch the iPhone on all 4 networks? Now no one would have anything to bitch about.

Personally I am holding out for either T-Mobile or Sprint because their prices are way better then ATT or Verizon.
 
Verizon will say whatever it can to leave the impression people could switch to them as a means to maintain mindshare. However in reality AT&T has an exclusive, that exclusive is valid through mid-2010 and possibly longer on the original device.

If there is a new form factor device, all bets are off, and if Apple wishes to make a "crippleware" phone for Verizon's dead-end version of 3G, that could happen too, but it will not be "the" iPhone.

The only area where Verizon has a slight edge over AT&T (note pun) is LTE. Verizon has more nodes deployed and tested than AT&T as of today, at least as far as public disclosures have indicated.

If the new device has LTE as one of the radio options, which I hope and believe to be the case, then it would be compatible with either AT&T or Verizon in the late 2010 to 2012 and beyond release timeframes.

The only problem there is LTE is not well deployed by either and they both publicly state 2012 for general LTE rollout on a widespread basis. The fallback on a new form factor device is 3G and 2.5G and wifi, so we have the Verizon style 3G dead end issue again. If the new device also has that protocol via the Qualcomm chip, then this rumor might make sense. But again only for the new device and only 2H2010 and beyond, and only if it is ALSO accessable on the AT&T network.

Desperate rumor or factual leak? Wanna bet?

Rocketman
 
darthraige said:
The end of AT&T is coming soon, and will be merging once again, only this time, with Verizon. I can see a merge happening in the future.
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So the basis of your prediction is that a Verizon executive said their network is ready to handle the iPhone, a merger is imminent?

That would be like saying, the end of Apple is coming soon. Since the Apple computer is capable of running the Windows OS, Apple will soon merge with Microsoft and form one single dominant hardware/software company.
 
Xavier said:
Well, if they would have, we probably wouldn't have seen an iPhone that is as 'open' as it is today. The App store would definitely be different.
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Nonsense. The store is the way it is because Steve wanted it that way. Verizon wasn't willing to be Steve's bitch and AT&T was. Simple as that.

Remember the ROKR? That's what happened the last time Steve wanted an Apple phone and caved into the desires of the network partner. Never again.

If AT&T had refused, then the next call would have been to T-Mobile or Sprint.
 
An empty promise that will never be tested

Verizon isn't getting the iPhone for many years. So, there is no risk for them to say that "we are ready". This promise will never be tested. Verizon's network has never been stressed....and it won't be for a while.

Verizon's network (CDMA) is stuck at 1.4Mb. At least AT&T is at 3.2Mb now....going to 7.2Mb soon. Also, AT&T offers thousands of free wireless hotspots to offload their traffic.

Hey Verizon, will your network be ready to support concurrent voice and data access? :)
 
ravenvii said:
I might be wrong (and god knows it'll probably happen anyway), but I doubt that the federal government would approve the merger of the largest cell phone company with the second largest (and it's not like the largest has 80% of the market while the second largest has 12% of the market, either).
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Not to mention their cell technologies are completely incompatible. If anything, Verizon might buy Sprint ( since they use CDMA ).
AT&T could merge with t-mobile then I suppose.
I'd prefer to have competition, myself.

Either way, Apple has this in the bag. Verizon can beckon "come to the table with a good deal that benefits us" and Apple will say, "ok... we'll make a good deal with.... all the other phone companies.. sound good to you, Verizon?"

And then Verizon will sit in a corner and cry :)
 
Gimme a break

Please, if Verizon had relased its Kung Fu grip for just a second and actually worked with Apple to get the iPhone on its network (back in 2007) everyone would be slamming them now for having a crappy network. I had AT&T before the iPhone and I have the iPhone now. I also had Verizon before all of that. I never had much of an issue with either provider and I have travelled along the east and west coast. I like Verizon and I like AT&T but Verizon just doesn't have the same amount of data usage as AT&T does becasue they lost out on the iPhone to begin with. Naturally AT&T's network will be taxed. It's offering a phone that encourages lots of data usage. AT&T stepped up to the plate and hit a home run. Verizon (and some of its customers) are still crying foul ball. Let it go and be happy with the Droid. Please?
 
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reallynotnick said:
How about we launch the iPhone on all 4 networks? Now no one would have anything to bitch about.

Personally I am holding out for either T-Mobile or Sprint because their prices are way better then ATT or Verizon.
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This is what I'm waiting for and would be good for all carriers, to some extent anyway. It would certainly help distribute the load and give superb coverage but yet each network would still gain $$$ by getting payments from usage of their cell towers. Basically, I can't wait when all cellular networks in the U.S. go LTE ( 4G ).
 
velocityg4 said:
To me that would mean being able to handle every current and projected iPhone customer being able to use maximum upload/download simultaneously. :D
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Outside of small LANs or expensive supercomputer clusters, no network of any kind can handle that load. I have $100K 240-port Cisco GbE switches in my lab - and they're oversubscribed 8 to 1 (at any point in time only 1 in 8 ports can sustain full bandwidth). If I'd spent $600K, I could have bought a 200 port switch that would run 100%.

Conversely, if any carrier built a network that could run at 100%, you'd balk at paying the charges required for that investment.


NoExpectations said:
Verizon's network (CDMA) is stuck at 1.4Mb. At least AT&T is at 3.2Mb now....going to 7.2Mb soon. Also, AT&T offers thousands of free wireless hotspots to offload their traffic...
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Better to actually deliver 1.4 to your customers, than to promise a theoretical 7.2 and drop calls and fall back to EDGE.
 
next year

should the company and Apple strike a deal to bring the iPhone to the largest U.S. wireless carrier next year.
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Strike a deal? Like what kind of deal? Like everything the same except Verizon gets to push the iPhone in ads? Or... everything the same, except Verizon gets to charge for visual voicemail? Or.... everything the same except Verizon gets a cut of app revinue? Verizon is going to have to play ball by Apple's rules or there's no game. They are going to have to really change there attitude from a couple years ago if it's going to happen.
 
What's wrong with you people? Voice + data at the same time? Can't you just carry on a conversation w/o HAVING to text someone else at the same time? No wonder our society is deteriorating!
 
Finally, a real carrier for this phone. Please release this...

Screw AT&T!!!

And the people claiming that Verizons network cant handle it? You are ridiculous and base that on 0 fact at all. Ive had nothing but an awesome experience with the droid, and am waiting for the iPhone to come to verizon finally!
 
deegle said:
Please, if Verizon had relased its Kung Fu grip for just a second and actually worked with Apple to get the iPhone on its network (back in 2007) everyone would be slamming them now for having a crappy network. I had AT&T before the iPhone and I have the iPhone now. I also had Verizon before all of that. I never had much of an issue with either provider and I have travelled along the east and west coast. I like Verizon and I like AT&T but Verizon just doesn't have the same amount of data usage as AT&T does becasue they lost out on the iPhone to begin with. Naturally AT&T's network will be taxed. It's offering a phone that encourages lots of data usage. AT&T stepped up to the plate and hit a home run. Verizon (and some of its customers) are still crying foul ball. Let it go and be happy with the Droid. Please?
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Puh-leese. It's just that people are so ga-ga about the iPhone that they put up with crappy voice quality, dropped calls and slow text messaging. The Apple kool-aid is that strong.
 
Until I see Verizon actually get the iPhone and handle the data usage, they shouldn't really say much. I recently moved from the iPhone to the HTC Hero on Sprint because of the costs of the data/text plans from AT&T under a 5-line family plan, but AT&T's problems are not because they're coverage is bad. For the most part, their coverage is great outside of major metropolitan cities, like NYC. Too bad, I live right smack in the middle of NYC. When I was away in school upstate, AT&T coverage was great. Once I came back to the city, they started having tons of dropped calls, not to mention degraded towers all over the city.

I would like to see Verizon get the iPhone though. Better options for the consumer and of course more money for the carriers and Apple.
 
Xavier said:
I would love to see the iPhone come to Verizon, but like stated above, will believe it when I see it.
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I don't see that happen any time soon. Maybe after Jobs leaves Apple, but not a day earlier. I'm under the impression that SJ isn't the sort to forgive and forget. The There's a Map for That ad's, though mainly targeted at AT&T, has poked fun at Apple's iPhone ads as well. Jobs can't be too happy about that. And touting Droid as being superior to the iPhone in those Verizon ads gotta chaff as well.
 
If apple was smart they should just have it unlocked the iphone and had it available for anyone. All products have life cycles, which we do not know how long they will last, but every product in a sense dies. They struck gold so why not run with it?

As for people that don't believe that the FCC wouldn't allow a monopoly, don't be completely sure. I bet at one point they'll allow it; we have natural monopolies already. As mobile phone increase in numbers and users I wouldn't be completely surprised if the government selected a company to become the monopoly in order to cover all Americans.
 
NoExpectations said:
Verizon isn't getting the iPhone for many years. So, there is no risk for them to say that "we are ready". This promise will never be tested. Verizon's network has never been stressed....and it won't be for a while.

Verizon's network (CDMA) is stuck at 1.4Mb. At least AT&T is at 3.2Mb now....going to 7.2Mb soon. Also, AT&T offers thousands of free wireless hotspots to offload their traffic.

Hey Verizon, will your network be ready to support concurrent voice and data access? :)
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My Droid speed test is always 2.2 mbs... iPhone 3GS 800k tops. Not sure where you get your data from.
 
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schwell said:
Funny one Verizon guy says 100% growth in data per year the other says 1000%. They need to get their story straight.
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100%, 1000%... $250,000, $150,000, $100,000... It's all the same...

ArrowSmith said:
Puh-leese. It's just that people are so ga-ga about the iPhone that they put up with crappy voice quality, dropped calls and slow text messaging. The Apple kool-aid is that strong.
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Yes it is.

satcomer said:
I will believe it when I see it. Anything else is just rumor
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Yes it is.
 
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