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Verizon Claims Network Ready for iPhone Should Apple Choose to Strike Deal

Frisco said:
Would Visual Voice mail work on Verizon?
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Besides the network infrastructure, in order to support Apple the carrier needs to add additional feature support.

I remember when the original iPhone was to be released the changes required for visual voicemail among other things was causing problems and delays.

As with anything... if Verizon did get a contract with Apple, I can't wait to see all of the "Verizon sucks" comments... cause that's just the way this forum rolls.
 
NoExpectations said:
Verizon isn't getting the iPhone for many years. So, there is no risk for them to say that "we are ready". This promise will never be tested. Verizon's network has never been stressed....and it won't be for a while.

Verizon's network (CDMA) is stuck at 1.4Mb. At least AT&T is at 3.2Mb now....going to 7.2Mb soon. Also, AT&T offers thousands of free wireless hotspots to offload their traffic.

Hey Verizon, will your network be ready to support concurrent voice and data access? :)
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My Droid speed test is always 2.2 mbs... iPhone 3GS 800k tops. Not sure where you get your data from. CDMA Rev A can top 3mps.
 
Mousse said:
I don't see that happen any time soon. Maybe after Jobs leaves Apple, but not a day earlier. I'm under the impression that SJ isn't the sort to forgive and forget.
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Anything is possible really. It wasn't too long ago Apple was burning Intel bunnies, now Apple gets special treatment from Intel.

The dealbreaker, as far as I know, is one of Apple's requirements years ago for the iPhone was control of service and support of the device and no carrier logos on the device, among other things. I'm not so sure Verizon is willing to do either. There might be a compromise but I can't see Apple allowing a VCast store app and icon on the iPhone anytime soon either.

AppleMojo said:
Besides the network infrastructure, in order to support Apple the carrier needs to add additional feature support.
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Verizon actually offers visual voicemail as an additional service. Not sure how it compares to the iPhone's but they do offer some variant of it.
 
This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Verizon's network would fold like a house of cheap cards under the weight of the iPhone.
 
My guess is it will be on Verizon this year coming in July. The 3Gs was underwhelming for a reason. They didnt waste resources on a revolutionary phone when they knew their AT&T contract was up.

I cant wait for it to be on Verizon :)
 
all posturing. My issues with AT&T have been on non-iPhone related device, my work BB. It randomly shuts off and drops calls like it is its job. Not sure if verizon could have handled it and we will never know, but i think everyone expects 24/7 uptime/service on their smart phone.
 
ArrowSmith said:
What's wrong with you people? Voice + data at the same time? Can't you just carry on a conversation w/o HAVING to text someone else at the same time? No wonder our society is deteriorating!
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Texting isn't data, you can text and talk at the same time on any network.

I use voice+data all the time. Some of us use our phones for things other than social interaction. It's not like I'm talking to my friends and surfing facebook. Sometimes I'll be on the phone with a co-worker or client while I'm on the road and need to look at an email or look something up pertinent to the conversation. It would suck to have to say "hold on I need to look at that email, let me call you back", hang up, look up the email, remember the information or jot it down and then call back. Hopefully something else doesn't come up in the conversation requiring you to hang up again to use data...
 
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gan6660 said:
AT&T has a terrible network. Apple and Verizon would have both made tremendous amounts of money if they just tried harder to make a deal with each other in 2007.
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Wrong, the technology for a hybrid phone was not available back them, Developing a CDMA phone for Half of the US market make no sense. Specially when that company is already working on phasing that technology out in favor of a 4G.

People always focus on US market when for apple that market is really a very small % of their iPhone revenue.

note: i don't disagree on the "At&t network sucks", but it was the right Business decision for Apple.
 
AidenShaw said:
Better to actually deliver 1.4 to your customers, than to promise a theoretical 7.2 and drop calls and fall back to EDGE.
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Not if you are charging for 7.2 and funding the network build-out with customer money. Better for who? We ARE talking AT&T here. Say what you will about them, but they are forward leaning on capacity and future tech buildout.

Apple can't even deploy a "tablet" until the network exists. The newton was LONG before its time and the iPhone was years ahead of its time. LTE will facilitate some very interesting things indeed.

Are we there yet?

Rocketman

5000% total growth in 2.5 years and the network did not drop entirely to its knees? Hmmm. That's amazing.
 
ruinfx said:
agreed. no way they would make this statement if they already had a deal lined up for 2010.
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Is that a serious statement? How does that statement in any way, shape, or form mean its not coming?

Seems more like they are in talks already to me... if not a done deal. Why do you think Verizon changed the xmas toy commercial to "spotty 3G" from "good luck surfing the web with that thing".

Emphasis on network, not device. Verizon has superior coverage, and hopefully gets the iPhone.
 
Having been a Verizon customer once upon a time, I have to wonder what the iPhone experience will be like with them as your carrier. Given the silly and arbitrary restrictions Verizon seems to always place on their phones, I just can't see people being anything but incredibly disappointed.

(note that I'm a T-Mobile customer, not an AT&T customer)

  • Bluetooth transfers for pictures, files, ringtones, address book sync, etc. - as far as I know Verizon has always disabled most Bluetooth functionality in an attempt to sell people their for-fee equivalent services (this is why I left them in the first place). Has that changed?
  • Visual Voicemail - will Verizon allow and/or support it? Hard to see Verizon letting you pick and choose the messages you'll listen to. edit: Ah, just read some more. Of course they will offer it... for an additional fee. That's the Verizon Way.
  • Accessing 3G-based services during a phone call - will they let you do it with the iPhone, even though they supposedly don't allow it with Droid?
 
Westside guy said:
Having been a Verizon customer once upon a time, I have to wonder what the iPhone experience will be like with them as your carrier. Given the silly and arbitrary restrictions Verizon seems to always place on their phones, I just can't see people being anything but incredibly disappointed.

(note that I'm a T-Mobile customer, not an AT&T customer)

  • Bluetooth transfers for pictures, files, ringtones, address book sync, etc. - as far as I know Verizon has always disabled most Bluetooth functionality in an attempt to sell people their for-fee equivalent services (this is why I left them in the first place). Has that changed?
  • Visual Voicemail - will Verizon allow and/or support it? Hard to see Verizon letting you pick and choose the messages you'll listen to. edit: Ah, just read some more. Of course they will offer it... for an additional fee. That's the Verizon Way.
  • Accessing 3G-based services during a phone call - will they let you do it with the iPhone, even though they supposedly don't allow it with Droid?
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Ill speak on the Droids behalf for these

- Google on the Droid is basically like Mobile Me for iPhone... All contacts synced all the time, calendars, settings, etc. And... FREE.

- Visual voicemail is on the phone but Verizon charges 2.99 for it. Thats why most of us use Google Voice for visual voicemail which is again.. FREE.

- No, you cant access 3G while on a call with the droid unless you are on wifi. And Ive never really wanted to do this anyway so I dont care about it. Id rather have a network that works for calls (since its a phone first and foremost) than a network where I can multitask pointlessly. Not to mention... a lot of the time on my 3Gs, I cant surf the web while in a call. The network is unable to connect.
 
I believe iPhone is no where close to Verizon WIreless. And I don't see AT&T's contract expiring(which I really hope so.) No to Verizon, Just because the anti-iPhone ads going on, the v-cast,. Etc. It's just pure jealousy of Verizon.
I see more potential in Sprint or T-Mobile. And that's easy potential right there.
Apple is smarter than this, they know they wouldn't want a company that likes to be naughty and be "un-business like."
Yeah, I know it's competition, but then it's also Karma!
Think different..
:apple:
 
alexhasfun28 said:
I believe iPhone is no where close to Verizon WIreless. And I don't see AT&T's contract expiring(which I really hope so.) No to Verizon, Just because the anti-iPhone ads going on, the v-cast,. Etc. It's just pure jealousy of Verizon.
I see more potential in Sprint or T-Mobile. And that's easy potential right there.
Apple is smarter than this, they know they wouldn't want a company that likes to be naughty and be "un-business like."
Yeah, I know it's competition, but then it's also Karma!
Think different..
:apple:
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Apple is smarter than what?! Verizon is a HUGE company, and the potential customers are endless. Why in gods name would they release it on t-mobile and sprint?! Sprint btw... is CDMA, so if they make it for them, they will most likely make it for Verizon.
 
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I've gotta admit, looking in from the outside, this ATT vs Verizon ad campaign has been fascinating.

I wilk say that for a phone that Verizon have publicly mocked in an ad, they seem to be focusing on it a bit now...
 
mike2q said:
Verizon may very well have the capacity. Non-Euro standard Verizon may be but my understanding of CDMA is that the digital spread spectrum allows more users per tower than GSM.
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If I'm not mistaken, GSM/UMTS are digital.
 
Well, I guess I have no reason to bitch at AT&T anymore. Whether it was coincidence or not, I’ve been hounding AT&T’s “Mark the Spot” iPhone app with dropped call and data failure (from inside my home) reports everyday since it debuted.

As of Monday this week, I went from one to three bars INSIDE my house (with horrible call quality and many dropped calls) and around 100-150 kbit/s of 3G data to five full bars constantly INSIDE my house with 1700 kbit/s of 3G data consistently (according to SpeedTest’s iPhone app).

That’s faster than a lot of people’s DSL and cable Internet.

Verizon will get the iPhone eventually. At this point, I think Apple will likely wait until LTE is deployed, but they may offer them a CDMA version since they apparently produce a special iPhone model just for China.
 
nsayer said:
They'd never give up as long as there are still lobbyists in D.C......
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What would they lobby? Apple refusing to let them sell the iPhone?

Of course this would never happen because Verizon will cave and welcome them with a very nice offer. Apple will wait until they have a network that can handle phone + data at the same time though.
 
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