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Verizon Goes on Offensive Against iPhone Again With 'Droid Does' Teasers
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There's a huge difference in tone. Apple's ads are light hearted and humorous. The PC character is likable. They don't attack the competitor like this idont ad does.
Come to think of it, the only widgets I use on my G1 are a control panel of sorts that lets me turn things on or off like wifi, bluetooth, GPS, and sync services and a little battery meter that shows me the amount of battery life left in %.
Does the iPhone have something similar?
Does the iPhone have something similar?
"You can't market a Jailbroken iPhone...please don't throw it into this comparison. Everything they are marketing the iPhone can't do LEGALLY, illegally you can do whatever you want on all platforms."
That's the sad part... a lot of those Don'ts can be fixed TODAY but Apple is too stupid and stubborn to do it.
So does a background pick on your app icon screen REALLY matter? No, but why not enable it? My friend has his son on the background. He enjoys it. Let people do it, it's stupid to block it for no reason.
But as I mentioned before, there are some things that are just idiotic or lazy. No sms/email icons on the lock screen? Completely retarded. I have a jailbreak app that proves it can be done, why not Apple? Are you afraid to add useful features that came out 10 years ago? I guess MMS is a start, and judging by the timeline, maybe in a few more years we'll have proper notifications.
And some people here are just silly. Apple would be dumb to ignore Verizon. You think they're going to get an additional 20 million subscribers on just AT&T? Hah, no. It's going to saturate very soon. They can ignore Verizon just to be stubborn but they'd be missing out on millions and millions of buyers.
That's the sad part... a lot of those Don'ts can be fixed TODAY but Apple is too stupid and stubborn to do it.
So does a background pick on your app icon screen REALLY matter? No, but why not enable it? My friend has his son on the background. He enjoys it. Let people do it, it's stupid to block it for no reason.
But as I mentioned before, there are some things that are just idiotic or lazy. No sms/email icons on the lock screen? Completely retarded. I have a jailbreak app that proves it can be done, why not Apple? Are you afraid to add useful features that came out 10 years ago? I guess MMS is a start, and judging by the timeline, maybe in a few more years we'll have proper notifications.
And some people here are just silly. Apple would be dumb to ignore Verizon. You think they're going to get an additional 20 million subscribers on just AT&T? Hah, no. It's going to saturate very soon. They can ignore Verizon just to be stubborn but they'd be missing out on millions and millions of buyers.
I owned a Palm Treo for 2 years that couldn't do MMS. Nobody seemed to think it was a great loss. I was shocked, when I came on here after I bought my iPhone, how big a deal people thought it was.
MMS is cool, but after the initial "Neat, a picture" wore off, I realized that I do the majority of my photo sharing on Facebook and Twitter anyway.
The whole "the app store is full of crap" argument doesn't make any sense. They don't all have to be good for every person - if there are just 10 really good apps for any given user, think about how much that still increases the phone's usefulness.
Also remember that "really useful" is in the eye of the beholder. The birdwatching app featured in one of the commercials does nothing for me because I'm not a birdwatcher. But if you were, that one app would set the iphone apart from every other smartphone. And that same argument applies to countless apps.
Best point made in this thread. It's amazing how many people on this forum still don't get that despite 2 years of the iphone's overwhelming success in the face of competitors with more features. (But then again, most handset makers still don't yet get it either, and their business depends on getting it.)
And honestly, take a look at the gripes in this ad - it's a pretty damn thin list. Multitasking and the camera flash are probably the only two that mean anything at all.
If millions of people shelled out $500 for a 2G phone with no apps, no GPS, no C&P, no enterprise support, and no MMS (Ok, the bar was lower in 2007, but still), does moto really think "no open development" and "no widgets" are going to sour users on the iphone?
Those two particular examples really bothered me -- Winterboard and LockInfo are two of the best "Apps" on the iPhone, and I had to jailbreak in order to get them.
I can't think of a single good reason either one of them would be banished to Cydia when they could be easily refuting iPhone haters if they were available on the AppStore. Winterboard I can *maybe* see as the "it changes the look and feel that makes iPhone great," but LockInfo? No reason at all that shouldn't at least be an option in "Settings."
Wow - the people in these marketing teams have to go back to school and learn to play nice with others.
What's the latest trend in marketing? Attacking your competitors' products and services?
While this may put Apple on their toes to offer more features on iPhone, I see it as plain lame - for a company to advertise their products by attacking another company. It's just a kid's game.
ANOTHER iPhone killer? I don't think so. More competition for iPhone? Perhaps. Will it make iPhone better? You bet!
It's just sad what companies are doing these days to catch people's attention and attract customers. Sad, unethical, dirty...low..
I will keep my iPhone, thank you very much. Not going ANYWHERE.
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What's the latest trend in marketing? Attacking your competitors' products and services?
While this may put Apple on their toes to offer more features on iPhone, I see it as plain lame - for a company to advertise their products by attacking another company. It's just a kid's game.
ANOTHER iPhone killer? I don't think so. More competition for iPhone? Perhaps. Will it make iPhone better? You bet!
It's just sad what companies are doing these days to catch people's attention and attract customers. Sad, unethical, dirty...low..
I will keep my iPhone, thank you very much. Not going ANYWHERE.
/sigh
I find it amazing how 100% of the people in this thread haven't used the device in question, and probably a huge percentage also hasn't spent any time with Android in general. Yet you're all experts. Too geeky. Users don't care about this or that. Bad design. Wow, such educated opinions, backed up by.......not a helluva lot.
You know what? Let's just have the iPhone. It's the best. That way Apple will never innovate further, and you'll all be happy there's no competition.
You know what? Let's just have the iPhone. It's the best. That way Apple will never innovate further, and you'll all be happy there's no competition.
This is something Apple has been doing for years. Most, if not all, of their commercials (related to their computers) have been based on attacking the competitor, not advertising features of their own product. Yes, I agree. It's lame.
what about mutli-tasking? and other things?
the point is: who cares?
how much mms does any body use? I certainly use it occasionally, but the functionality that the iphone offered from day one far surpassed what was lacking. And that is the point about the iPhone.
I have played with some of the other phones, and every one device feels second hand. There is something about the iPhone 'experience' that has not been replicated yet. In part, that 'something' is the ecosystem that apple has (laptops, desktops, software, easy of programing, app store, etc). You see, Verizon has none of the other stuff, and what they offer feels second hand... because it is. It is second hand to them because Verizon does not make a phone, and the little software that they impose on devices sucks.
I was once a customer of Verizon, and will never, in my life, go back to them.
If you have a jailbroken iPhone there's a great add-on called SBSettings that allows you to turn on/off 3G, Airplane Mode, Bluetooth, SSH, Wifi, Processes, Brightness, Lock Rotation, and Disable autolock.
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I find it amazing how 100% of the people in this thread haven't used the device in question, and probably a huge percentage also hasn't spent any time with Android in general. Yet you're all experts. Too geeky. Users don't care about this or that. Bad design. Wow, such educated opinions, backed up by.......not a helluva lot.
You know what? Let's just have the iPhone. It's the best. That way Apple will never innovate further, and you'll all be happy there's no competition.
Ain't that the truth! I say give it a chance. You'll obviously have to try it and see it in your hands before having a useful opinion.
But like someone had said above, what makes the iPhone great is that they started this market of touch-screen, do-everything smart phones. It's gonna be very hard for any company to do better than what the iPhone has done. But this does look like a worthy competitor.
Of course Verizon also has many deficiencies not listed in the Ad. Verizon tends to charge customers for every little thing, and that model would not go over well at all with a smartphone that basically uses the network as a pipe like the iPhone.
But, this is an effective ad, and hopefully it will drive Apple to address some of the glaring deficiencies of the iPhone. Apple is in the catbird seat. All they need to do is add some small advances to the iPhone, many of them in software, to really fix a lot of the naysayer complaints. 3.0 with Copy and Paste already addresses many of the issues.
So this kind of competition is very welcome.
But, this is an effective ad, and hopefully it will drive Apple to address some of the glaring deficiencies of the iPhone. Apple is in the catbird seat. All they need to do is add some small advances to the iPhone, many of them in software, to really fix a lot of the naysayer complaints. 3.0 with Copy and Paste already addresses many of the issues.
So this kind of competition is very welcome.
But they are advertising its own product features. Sure its annoying, but no more so than those I'm a Mac ads...
But that's the war it has become.
I find it amazing how 100% of the people in this thread haven't used the device in question...
You know what? Let's just have the iPhone. It's the best. That way Apple will never innovate further, and you'll all be happy there's no competition.
Ha well the device isn't out so that's a given. Nor is Eclair on Adroid, but its true.
Even if you love the iPhone, why complain, by attacking its weaknesses apple is forced to address those weaknesses and give you a better iPhone.
Obviously enough that Apple introduced it and ATT was attacked for not having immediate support.
It's like the EDGE vs 3g. When the iPhone was coming out with EDGE, some attacked it, and the Apple fans went in full force at the fact 3G was basically useless, wasn't needed, EGE was plenty fast, and what an awesome device it was. Yet when Apple released the 3G phone, they went crazy. The same with Applications and the App Store.
Apparently, if the iPhone doesn't have it, it's useless. Point taken.
Good point. My buddy is far from technical, at all, but he got only a G1 and he loves it. He's put on apps, downloaded things, who knows what but he's having a good time with it.
I don't know why blind apple freaks get so worked up over this. Apple is not going away, stop worrying! You don't own the company, why do you care if their market share drops from 25% to 22% in the smartphone world?
If anything, any REAL fan of Apple would be 100% happy with the Android getting better and better. Why? Because Apple is stubborn and will not work as hard as it would while a competitor is chasing it. A good android means a better iPhone, period. Be happy, stop whining.
Every Motorola manufactured phone that I ever had the pleasure of owning was a piece of crap. I gave up on their products years ago.
Hum... Kettle, meet Pot. Apple licenses iPhone off of Cisco. So much for that puny attack on the Motorola Droid.
It's funny seeing all the fanboys rushing to the iPhone's defense and just outright bashing a device they obviously know nothing about.
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You know what? Let's just have the iPhone. It's the best. That way Apple will never innovate further, and you'll all be happy there's no competition.
this comment irritates me quite a lot. Where was the freaking competition when Apple created the iPhone? There was none.
Apple created the iPhone with the intent of having something that is good, worth having as your own device. I have heard Steve Jobs say that if you do something, it better be the best that you do because very seldom you have a second chance in this life.
The competition is there because Apple is there, not the other way around. Can you see this?
Therefore, the comment that 'apple will never innovate further' is utter rubbish. When the competition gets to a certain level, Apple will simple create a new thing that no-one has even envisioned (think ipod -> ipod touch), therefore going ahead of every one else by a couple of years if not more, all the while 'not innovating' as you so eloquently suggest they do not do unless there is 'competition'.
Apple is not driven by the 'competition'. Rather, competition is driven by what apple does.