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The catch for me is the tethering cap, as I do not have cable or cable internet and use my grandfathered unlimited data plan for a bunch of audio and video streaming. I usually do about 50-60gb a month.

That "de-prioritizing," or whatever that laughable line about what is really throttling is also suspicious to me. There's ALWAYS a catch.

Still, will investigate the plan tomorrow.
That's my problem. I live in a remote area where we only have electricity and cellular.
It's a nightmare to download apps to my computer now that Apple removed the transferring of apps from iPhone to desktop since iOS 9. Apple is completely out of touch with the likes of us.
 
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T-Mobile is still a little cheaper but Verizon's better network is worth it.

That's the key thing: there's more than just the price.

Is T-Mobile cheaper for the exact same level of service?

Usually that answer is no. Or sometimes hell no.

So while you'll pay more for Verizon... you'll get a better network. I don't see a problem with that.

Paying less and getting less isn't a good deal to me.
 
Meanwhile, in Denmark...

I'm paying $17 a month for:
- Unlimited calls
- Unlimited SMS/MMS
- Unlimited data
- Some other stuff I never use

'Sup, America?
 
Meanwhile, in Denmark...

I'm paying $17 a month for:
- Unlimited calls
- Unlimited SMS/MMS
- Unlimited data
- Some other stuff I never use

'Sup, America?
Why does this always have to come up? What does this have to do with anything? How much does your gas cost or all kinds of other things that are cheaper in US? How much larger of a network do US carriers have to create, maintain, and upgrade compared to Denmark? What's the pint of any of this? "'Sup" indeed.
 
Verizon, at least, doesn't have smartphone contract plans anymore, just payment plans for whatever phone you buy…

(I think they still have contract plans for tablets and MiFi hotspots.)

I'm curious if Verizon is still playing their "not purchased here" games, restricting which phones they'll allow on their network. A couple of years ago that was still a big deal.

The IMEI has to be whitelisted, if that's what you mean. For example, when I bought the 6S on launch day at my local Apple store, I reserved the AT&T version because it had the CDMA radio and one more GSM band. When the salesperson brought the box out I immediately entered the IMEI into Verizon's website. No go. So I had to cancel that order and go back home and reserve a Verizon iPhone. Luckily I was able to get it the next day.

So you have to buy the Verizon version or the "SIM free" version for it to be whitelisted through Verizon.
 
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Courtesy of Romeo Void, Never Say Never. All that needed to happen was Fran Shamwow, Head Tightwad, to retire…

Still happily beating up VZW's network on legacy UL data plans since 2011!
I have a legacy plan.
1 million in churn for a single quarter will have a carrier do a lot of things.
 
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My bill increased $4 ---changed my plan online a few mins - thank you Verizon


$110 plus $20 per line works for me
 
Why does this always have to come up? What does this have to do with anything? How much does your gas cost or all kinds of other things that are cheaper in US? How much larger of a network do US carriers have to create, maintain, and upgrade compared to Denmark? What's the pint of any of this? "'Sup" indeed.

Don't even feed the troll. Comparing a tiny country like Denmark to the US is a laugher. If Denmark's mobile operators had to create and maintain service for an area as large as the US, it'd cost much more than $17.
 
Well, the timing is perfect. I was actually debating a shift to T-Mobile for this very reason. This effectively ends that, and I'll call tomorrow to switch our four lines over.

Funny, just last week the wireless carrier annual reviews came out. T-Mobile ranked same quality as Verizon. Now Verizon can no longer say they have the best network which has always been thier argument for charging more and not having unlimited data. I was with Verizon for 13 years, and finally took the big jump to try t-Mobile 3 years ago. I have not regretted that choice, though the first year was rough with dropped calls. T-Mobile has made HUGE improvements in thier network over the past 2-3 years and now they are fighting Verizon for that #1 spot. Verizon knows this which explains this big change BACK to unlimited. However, I will stay with T-Mobile, why...

1. T-Mobile has had WIFI-Calling for years. This was a big help when they had dropped call problems and not so great service availability. If I had no bars, I just connect to WIFI and I had service. But it goes further....

2. T-Mobile was the fist to offer worldwide free WIFI calling back to North America and FREE unlimited 2G/3G data in most countries (Paris, Turkey, Italy, Mexico, Canada to name a few I have been to and used it). And for most needs 2G/3G is good enough to do what you need. If you wanted faster speed you can pay for a 4G 500MB pass. But I raraley needed that.

3. When you don't have WIFI outside USA, 20 cents flat rate per minute. A 5 minute call cost you $1....Trust me, I was nervous using my phone because I thought there would be hidden cost. But I came back home, got the bill. As promised....

4. T-Mobile started with 5GB Hotspot, then moved to 7GB, Now they are at 10GB for the past 1 year. BUT....They have a hidden hotspot option they don't speak publicly about YET.....If you call, and have the T-Mobile ONE plan.....You can pay an extra $20 per month and get UNLIMITED Hotspot. And the rep told there is a plan for 2017 where they may offer unlimited hotspot for hotspot devices so you can FIRE your ISP and use T-Mobile at home or anywhere you want it.

5. T-Mobile reminds me of what Verizon was up until my 10th year with them. But I watched as customer service went downhill. I had to call and beg, argue, complain and threaten to leave to get them to give me extra data allowance, free stuff to justify the high cost they changed. I had to keep old phones and avoid upgrades to keep my unlimited data. Verizon became a JOB that you began to hate. I have not called T-Mobile more than 1 time per year to order a new iPhone 7. I just pay my bill which has unlimited EVERYTHING...Verizon was like Comcast, the once per month 2 hour call to try and save a few dollars.

6. As of 1 year ago. Dropped calls and service problems are virtually GONE. When T-Mobile activated Band 12 and AWS spectrum. Thier service got MUCH better. I find the cell towers are now more stable and better than WIFI calling. Sometimes I turn off my WIFI to use the cell tower because its more stable. Funny how it was the opposite story during my first year with them.

I think Verizon is too late with the change. If they would have done this 2 years ago, MAYBE I switch back.....But today....

1. They have the same network quality as T-Mobile. T-Mobile is GSM based which works better in other countries and is faster for data in other countries. Most countries have not moved to LTE, they are using advanced 4G (They call it 4.5G). Its fast.

2. T-Mobiles offers more features and plan benifits such as the items I listed above.

3. T-Mobile seems determined to shake up the market and also looking to make service and features better.They even offer you free stuff on Tuesdays. Verizon doesn't care about us, this change is only them responding to loss of market share and not being able to claim thier network is the best any longer.

Sorry, I am staying with T-Mobile. I can see no reason to move back. And, if T-Mobile decides to merge or acquire Dish Network and/or Sprint....Things will only get better!!!
 
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Yep my 25% company discount is gone - but I will be using my sons military or my husbands veterans discount as soon as I can get one of their email addresses since each have a phone on my plan
 
Yep my 25% company discount is gone - but I will be using my sons military or my husbands veterans discount as soon as I can get one of their email addresses since each have a phone on my plan
just have your husband take his card in
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just have your husband take his card in
you dont have to use the email anymore for veterns
 
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Remember to thank T-Mobile on your way to Verizon. :p

Yeah, T-Mobile lit a fire on the backsides of both AT&T and Verizon. Hopefully there's more relief to come for the long-suffering wallets and purses of AT&T/Verizon customers (coming from a former Verizon customer).
 

You realize that with tmobiles crap unlimited plan (the real one that costs $95) you have to turn HD video on when you want to use it?

You pay $95 to have to turn something ON when you want to use it. LOL. What garbage.

Im with T-Mobile. They better answer this verizon plan and knock off their sneaky crap or I'm gone.
 
Limited unlimited.

That language is as bad as fake news or alternative facts. I wish we could just call a spade an F*ing spade.

It's not unlimited and they're lying.
It's unlimited. It's not necessarily at unlimited speeds, but that's not what unlimited refers to.
 
"unlimited talk, text, and 4G LTE data, will cost $80 per month"

wow, that's expensive! It cost €35 euro's each month with T-mobile in my country the Netherlands (that's $37,22 American dollars) for exactly the same. Does Verizon also add's group talk? In Holland T-Mobile offers 6 people within a group to be able to call with each other 24/7 if they want without any cost.

I wonder how much cable television cost within the United States, for 70+ channels +29 High Definition Channels you pay about €24,95 each month that's about $26,53 United States Dollars...
 
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