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Verizon iPhone Launches with Mobile Hotspot and Redesigned Antenna

I have never seen a bigger group of nancys complain about data and voice at the same time. "I have to browse maps and talk at the same time...it is so imperative to my experience!" You sound like a bunch of fruits spouting off all day about this.

You do understand if you're browsing the web, and a phone call comes in, you get the call. It doesn't block the call. When you hang up you go right back to browsing.

Please just admit it...Verizon has THE network in the U.S. and now they have THE phone. Stop falling on the data/voice crutch, it is a false arguement.
 
AZREOSpecialist said:
Actually that's a limit of the technology and it has nothing to do with Verizon. Sprint is also subject to the same limitations.
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Yup. CDMA is age old obsolete technology that nobody in the world uses other than Verizon. They are so entrenched in CDMA and had so much investment they decided to stick with it. Now they have to do band-aid solutions to compete with GSM since their technology is simple not designed for high speed data. There is no way Verizon's data network speeds will even come close to HSPA speeds.
 
Gemütlichkeit said:
Antenna gate was such a non issue and only magnified by haters.
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I'm not a hater, I'm just disappointed that my iPhone 4 will pretty much lose coverage if one specific spot is touched. I really like this phone and would gladly use it without a case on. Sadly I cannot.
 
badmac78 said:
I'll eat my words on Apple never producing a CDMA phone but that is a nightmare

this basically makes the iOS notification system useless. You will get flooded with notifications each time you get off the phone.

I'm not sure I would ever want to trade that off, along with Verizon upping their upgrade limit from 12 mo to 20.
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Not exactly a nightmare. You need to understand how you use your phone though. For people like me who don't talk a lot on my phone -- and certainly not for long periods of time at once -- this is pretty much a non-issue. For others (like you, it sound like) its a deal-breaker.

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Oveeall reaction to the news: Yay!

I'm not switching today or anything, but it is good to know I finally have options when it's that time. At the very least, AT&T will be forced to give its customers more options.
 
Fraaaa said:
Because is due to the CDMA technology, not the phone. That happens on any other phone using CDMA.

You have to understand that CDMA is an older technology, that is why many network have been using GSM for years and why CDMA is not so popular.

But to be honest I don't know much about CDMA as I don't have it here, this is just what I heard from other people.
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GSM is older than CDMA.

It has nothing to do with age, it has to do with engineering decisions made early on during the development.

Also, Verizon had a choice to go with EVDV...which did voice+data. They chose not to. In fact, all CDMA carriers chose not to. Must have been buggy or too expensive.

thecypher said:
Yup. CDMA is age old obsolete technology that nobody in the world uses other than Verizon. They are so entrenched in CDMA and had so much investment they decided to stick with it. Now they have to do band-aid solutions to compete with GSM since their technology is simple not designed for high speed data. There is no way Verizon's data network speeds will even come close to HSPA speeds.
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You are obviously clueless about wireless technologies.
 
arkmannj said:
Dear AT&T,

Allow the Personal WiFi hotspot (tethering) at either no cost, or a minimal one time fee...now please.

Sincerely,
All your customers that may think of switching if you don't

P.S.
I love competition...don't you ?
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LOL, remember that if you break your AT&T contract, you have to pay. And then spend money to start all over again with Verizon.

For technology which is older than what you have today. Also keep in mind that you would then have to buy a new iPhone from Verizon to get LTE...
 
MrJPH said:
Yeah, Sprint is a CDMA carrier also, isn't it? Couldn't they just as easily use this CDMA iPhone? (oh, please, oh please, oh please, oh please!!!!)

I've never ever had a problem with Sprint service, and have loyally stuck by them ever since the iPhone release years ago, as I had absolutely no desire to go to lousy AT&T, and don't regret at all never having done so. I feel the same about Verizon... I'm loyal to Apple, but they are not the only people/company out there... I hope to one day have their phone on my carrier... why they just don't open up their phones to everybody now, now that they have both compatible version of phones available... I don't understand, their profits would go through the freakin' roof! Come on Apple and revolutionize the way wireless phone companies do business!
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It's non exclusive so they can get on sprint. It's just a matter of if sprint could support the iPhone and it's users enough to interest apple.
 
brando123b said:
I have never seen a bigger group of nancys complain about data and voice at the same time. "I have to browse maps and talk at the same time...it is so imperative to my experience!" You sound like a bunch of fruits spouting off all day about this.

You do understand if you're browsing the web, and a phone call comes in, you get the call. It doesn't block the call. When you hang up you go right back to browsing.

Please just admit it...Verizon has THE network in the U.S. and now they have THE phone. Stop falling on the data/voice crutch, it is a false arguement.
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yeah that's not a big deal to you. but a lot of people are on a call and have to look something up at the same time. i receive my texts through data on google voice. when i'm on a phone call it notifies me like a regular text through push. that wouldn't happen on verizon.

just bc YOU don't use it doesn't mean someone else doesn't.
 
macnews said:
I am preempting the complainers who buy an iPhone now and then in 4 months when a new one is announced are upset how "unfair" it is they just bought an iPhone 4 months ago and it doesn't have the new features! Well no kidding!
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+1

For the most part... don't buy ANYTHING NOW... everything will be outdated at some point! So you might as well get what you need/want and enjoy it. :D
 
Geckotek said:
GSM is older than CDMA.

It has nothing to do with age, it has to do with engineering decisions made early on during the development.

Also, Verizon had a choice to go with EVDV...which did voice+data. They chose not to. In fact, all CDMA carriers chose not to. Must have been buggy or too expensive.



You are obviously clueless about wireless technologies.
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So what was the advantage for VZW to use CDMA? Why didn't they get a GSM/UMTS network back at the time?
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)

If I have an iPhone 4 on another wireless carrier and switch to an iPhone 4 on Verizon Wireless, will all of my accessories be compatible?

Most accessories should work, however you may find that cases and covers could be different depending on the product manufacturer.
 
jdstoddard said:
Now, call me crazy, but Verizon stated that they were testing for quite a while with "thousands of them". How could they go unnoticed?

My idea: That video we saw that had the correct CDMA antenna with a micro-sim slot were the test units. They for the most part look the same as the ATT to the average persion. If the Micro-sim slot was missing, someone could instantly jump to conclusions and say its a CDMA phone. A quick software change to display "AT&T" instead of Verizon ,and its identical to what everyone else has (for the most part).

It avoids the famous bar scenario.

Anyone agree?
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any bumper or cover would conceal the phone.
 
andiwm2003 said:
why fail?:confused:

In four years of owning iPhones I never, not a single time used the internet while I was talking on the phone.

As long as calls get priority and interrupt the internet use so that I don't miss calls there is no difference to what I do now. So again why is this a fail?
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Seems that you don't conduct business on the go.

On the phone: did you receive that email?
Let me check it out.

Etc.
 
Figures. Been waiting for years for Verizon to get the iphone. But now, with their 4G LTE service being so widespread in the DC metro area, I'd be an idiot to jump on this phone and be stuck with a two year contract.
 
thecypher said:
Yup. CDMA is age old obsolete technology that nobody in the world uses other than Verizon. They are so entrenched in CDMA and had so much investment they decided to stick with it. Now they have to do band-aid solutions to compete with GSM since their technology is simple not designed for high speed data. There is no way Verizon's data network speeds will even come close to HSPA speeds.
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Can you please not make such ridiculous comments if you don't know much about a topic?
 
thecypher said:
Yup. CDMA is age old obsolete technology that nobody in the world uses other than Verizon. They are so entrenched in CDMA and had so much investment they decided to stick with it. Now they have to do band-aid solutions to compete with GSM since their technology is simple not designed for high speed data. There is no way Verizon's data network speeds will even come close to HSPA speeds.
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LOL ... you made me chuckle
 
I can't believe how much negativity/sour grapes there is in this thread.

The iPhone 4 is on Verizon. We all win!

Except for those of us who got the Droid X six months ago after the iPhone 4 was announced exclusively for at&t...
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I'm hoping/PRAYING Verizon lets us have an early opt-out for iPhone 5 without a penalty.
 
cvaldes said:
Correct.

The current iPhone does not have a HSPA+ radio. iPhone 4 owners get HSPA speeds, regardless of whether or not there's an active HSPA+ network in their area (like much of the world).

When AT&T turns on HSPA+ in a couple of months, their iPhone 4 subscribers will not see any difference.

My guess is that Apple will put an HSPA+ radio in the iPhone 5 this summer, now that HSPA+ network upgrades have been well established over much of this planet.
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My TuneIn Radio App works great on my iPhone4 without the need for HSPA+ for radio... I get all kinds of radio stations and can even record! Wish I made the App!
 
Fraaaa said:
I never got that right, is the A-GPS supposed to be better than a normal GPS?
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Better in that it allows quicker localization of position initially while GPS location is being calculated, and allows position data in the absence of GPS. But GPS is the signal that gives roughly 30 feet of accuracy. So better, with caveats. Once you have a GPS signal resolved, the "A" is not really doing anything. It's there in reserve. But you must always have at least 3 satellite signals (in view, not blocked by buildings/cliffs, etc) for a 2D resolution, and 4 satellites for a 3D (elevation) resolution. When you are only getting the "A", your "circle of probability" expands on your map, the blue circle we all see. But in most Nav programs, the software is smart enough during partial signal loss to know you are not leaving the road, so it "tracks" your location logically with time and last speed along the road. The "A" can be very helpful in these situations, say in the Boston "Big Dig" tunnels with no GPS signals.
 
whatever said:
LOL, remember that if you break your AT&T contract, you have to pay.
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If you break your AT&T contract to move to a Verizon iPhone, you will end up with a GSM iPhone which you no longer will need, and can thus sell for a nice price, maybe even more than you will have to pay AT&T for canceling.
 
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