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I am a little confused? I have been an iphone user since the first model came out and have since changed to Verizon and have been very pleased with the droid x; which is just as good as the iphone. Why would anyone at this point in time want to buy a iphone that can only offer 3g speeds when Verizon is rolling out LTE phones this year? Apple states that they are listening to what the customer wants? I hardly believe that, it means that apple would have had to remodel the phone to allow LTE(4g speeds), just for verizon. Apple makes an excellent product no doubt, but they dangle a small piece of carrot (little improvements) in front of the consumer knowing that they never have to give the whole carrot. It is fairly safe to assume that apple next phone will be 4g. Maybe someone can explain this to me?

Apple, using past examples, will not adopt a new network standard , LTE, until its become widespread and common place enough, i seem to remember reading somewhere that someone tied in with apple stated that apple would not be a guinea pig for LTE.
 
I have a VERY stupid question...

Let's say that they found a way to make a hybrid chip CDMA/GSM. Do yall think they could tweak the GSM chip to work with T-Mobile frequency?
I now it is a dumb question... I was just wondering...

No. T-Mobile uses a non-standard frequency for 3G. Not happening at this time.
 
No talkin' and surfin'?

While I've been looking forward to switching to any network other than AT&T for a long time, not being able to talk and surf seems like a huge drawback to me.

Is anyone else rethinking a move to Verizon?
 
the 1st Gen-ers

my "new in 2" deal doesn't hit for a year, so I'm planning on all of the 1st Gen adapters to set off all of VZWs new hardware land mines and I'll hobble along with my droid til next Feb. when most of the coast is clear and I can go back to dropping calls with the latest technology. howzzat for a run-on sentence?
 
So on the February 3 pre-order, I have an iPhone on ATT and my wife a phone on Verizon. Because I am still a Verizon customer with my wife's phone, will I be able to upgrade her phone and port my number back from ATT on February 3 or will I only be able to do the wife's phone that day since my new line won't be considered "existing user?"
 
Yeah, but there where 3 antennas and now there are 4... Maybe a redundant one, so if you're bridging the gap or something in one, the other can still work... Just a guess...

There are only two antennas on the iPhone 4. The gap on the bottom right is fake and there for symmetry. They may have done the same for the upper right gap on the CDMA iPhone 4 as well. They may be an extra antenna, or there may not be.
 
Not being able to use the internet and make a phone call doesn't bother me (had vzw for 2 years and att for 3). i hate talking on the phone and im always by a computer. :D
 
Out of curiosity I just looked at the LTE verizon map. I live south of Green Bay, and while Milwaukee will get coverage later this year, I certainly will not. So the LTE portion of the discussion seems to be a non issue for me.

I have a Storm 2 on Verizon, and have had Verizon for years. I get the no phone and data at the same time argument, but I haven't ever had it with Verizon. What I am most interested in is tethering and had even gone in the Verizon store recently to see what phones offered it.

Need to see the pricing of the data plan and the cost of tethering. I am eligible to upgrade - have been for several months. Would have bought a Droid, but every time I went in they had none in stock.

So, this time I will need to decide if I want to preorder, or alternatively, wait it out to see what issues folks have and then switch phones. My husband would be eligible for an upgrade later this summer so I could get a second phone then if something else was released, but if it is for the LTE network, I am guessing that would be a waste of money - or is there something else that phone MIGHT offer that I would wait for?
 
While I've been looking forward to switching to any network other than AT&T for a long time, not being able to talk and surf seems like a huge drawback to me.

Is anyone else rethinking a move to Verizon?

I would wait for a while. To me this limitation is HUGE! The whole idea of a smartphone especially an iPhone is killed by this limitation.
 
Headlines

Feb 3, "Verizon begins to sell iPhones"
Feb 4, "Verizon Network Sucks Too"

(I saw this in an editorial cartoon.)
 
Dialing: 1-900-Big-Chik

O yea, Im looking at your video while I talk to you, o yea, who is your daddy.
slap it, slap it... who is your daddy.

There is your data and voice hard at work for these folks.



Lets face it folks, those who's friends brothers, second cousins husband who had the signed contract in hand saying AT&T until 2012, they are today proven very very wrong. Their inserting all sorts of stuff in their mouth.

Now, they have to step up the fight, pick everything wrong about verizon in their mouthful opinion.

What these folks cant accept is the fact that there is life beyond AT&T, and that is going to make people happy.

These folks cant accept the fact that people like to be happy!

What everyone needs to look at is the consumer now has a choice. I am a apple user, I cant have an iPhone as I like to receive calls in my house. Now, this consumer has a choice.
People should be happy for that and the other consumers out there. including yourself!
 
While I've been looking forward to switching to any network other than AT&T for a long time, not being able to talk and surf seems like a huge drawback to me.

Is anyone else rethinking a move to Verizon?

No. In three years I've needed that feature maybe twice. Others may need it more than me, but like Facetime, I hardly ever find myself using it.
 
During a mobile phn call with a Sprint User; I was on my iphone4 (on Speaker) I was surfing the web (MAPS) and texting him(using Messages) critical info (address to party) my friend on a Sprint CDMA phone could not receive the DATA, until he hung up the phone call. Very sad. He over shot the address by a mile or so because he could not recieve data while on call.

Just a simple example of the power of HSDPA network vs CDMA Network.
:cool:
 
You don't need a cell phone then :D

yeah i dont need a personal one, my work one (att) is a must. i use about 30 minutes a month if that. I have a 1400 min plan with 4 lines on it, so im just really paying for my family to have phones. but ill be able to say i have an iphone 4 :). i can be with the cool kids now. :p
 
I am a little confused? I have been an iphone user since the first model came out and have since changed to Verizon and have been very pleased with the droid x; which is just as good as the iphone. Why would anyone at this point in time want to buy a iphone that can only offer 3g speeds when Verizon is rolling out LTE phones this year? Apple states that they are listening to what the customer wants? I hardly believe that, it means that apple would have had to remodel the phone to allow LTE(4g speeds), just for verizon. Apple makes an excellent product no doubt, but they dangle a small piece of carrot (little improvements) in front of the consumer knowing that they never have to give the whole carrot. It is fairly safe to assume that apple next phone will be 4g. Maybe someone can explain this to me?
My assumption is that the next iPhone will be an HSPA+ handset since most of the world has upgraded their networks to that technology.

Whether or not the next Verizon iPhone will get an LTE chip is debatable. Historically, Apple has built handsets based on the dominant cellular technology.

Apple may wait a while to let the technology mature; they have not been on the bleeding edge of cellular network technology in the past, instead opting toward designs that work well with widespread technology. It is likely that the first LTE chips will have power and performance issues and Apple may let other manufacturers (and their customers) be the guinea pigs.
 
No. In three years I've needed that feature maybe twice. Others may need it more than me, but like Facetime, I hardly ever find myself using it.

My dropped calls on AT&T seem to have gotten a little better, but I hardly think using voice & data concurrently was ever a big deal. At least I learned not to trust my iPhone to have lengthy business conversations, so checking an email on the spot on the same iPhone interface while talking? Meh.

With free hotspot, I can just whip out my MBP (or my WIFI iPad 2 in the hopefully near future) and check email, no?

Plus, it's not like you can listen to Pandora & talk on the phone at the same time. (I do think Pandora mutes itself when you receive a phone call anyways. I mean, would you really want to have music playing in your ear and try to talk/listen to another person on the line? Huh?)

This Verizon iPhone deal is a win for everyone. AT&T will be forced to make some concessions.
 
Congrats!

Congrats to all of you who had to wait or Verizon. I don't know how you did it, was hard for me to wait for the iPhone 3G let alone till 2011! I'm happy this happened for many reasons, mainly my friends who can't use AT&T, I get one bar at home with both companies, so I know how it feels. Then we need a healthy competition not monopoly, we could get so much more in the long run, save $$$$ and more data, though I'm grandfathered.
I'm happy with AT&T so at the moment it's all good.
Where I live people don't want cell towers cause they are ugly, so again both companies service sucks where I am.
Only wish Verizon gets better, the lack of a few key features does suck for some, those features I now love, but I only got used to them once I had it, so ignorance is bliss sometimes. Plus some may never use these features.
This is a great thing! Can't wait to see what's in store for future iPhones.
 
Well Verizon is a big network, why couldn't you sell it? I mean, if you saying outside the US there are other country like China that uses CDMA, but there aren't many networks using this technology.

CDMA phones don't have sims. The id is hardcoded so you can't take a phone to another network.


Yes, Steve admitted there was a problem,

No, he admitted to a condition that exists on all phones that could be a problem if your carrier's network sucks

Naturally the antenna design will change in the future -- it always does from year to year. No need to run around with your head on fire yelling "they are admitting they made a mistake!!!" They're doing nothing of the kind other than trying to improve a product with every new iteration . . . as always.

and yet some folks will say any 'improvements' are just fixing their big mistake. Cause bashing Apple gets more hits than praising them
 
Dialing: 1-900-Big-Chik

O yea, Im looking at your video while I talk to you, o yea, who is your daddy.
slap it, slap it... who is your daddy.

There is your data and voice hard at work for these folks.

Wow...you have revealed a lot about yourself.

I use it to look up maps, showtimes, etc while talking real time with my wife.

So, are you saying, given a choice, that you would not want concurrent voice/data?

Strange not to want a feature that would enhance your over experience.
 
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